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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: therealhojo]
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05/19/19 06:57 PM
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Kansas is about $565.
Both of those prices are stupid.
Neither of those states have baiting "privilege" fees, either.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: therealhojo]
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05/19/19 07:45 PM
05/19/19 07:45 PM
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Clem
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Preference points. Just a minor inconvenience.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: Clem]
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05/19/19 08:14 PM
05/19/19 08:14 PM
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therealhojo
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Preference points. Just a minor inconvenience.
You're correct as always. Now I'll have to figure out how to pay that 4 years worth of inconvenience. And I still don't have anything in Iowa----except my choice to pay it or not. Damn them Iowa folks, damn them all to hell!!!! I wish they would do away with non resident hunting then I wouldn't have to apply.
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: therealhojo]
#2810916
05/19/19 08:32 PM
05/19/19 08:32 PM
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Squeaky
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I bought that same preference point today for a mere $65. I now have $195 invested in points and I’ll need to invest in another next year before I’ll have enough to draw. I’ll have $265 in just points before I ever get to apply for the $600+ tag. I’ll also pay the state of Illinois $465 + $365 + $50.25 + $5.50 + convenience fees to hunt their state. I’ll gladly pay the $15 fee for the privilege to feed if I choose to do so. I’ve learned hunting can be as expensive as one wants to make it be or pretty cheap if utilizing public land. In my opinion it’s all about personal choices.
Last edited by Squeaky; 05/19/19 08:33 PM.
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: therealhojo]
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05/19/19 09:02 PM
05/19/19 09:02 PM
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Now if we could get a really good chance of seeing, and a decent chance of killing a P&Y in just a few days of scouting and hunting, people probably wouldn’t gripe about coming to hunt here. You pay for what you get 99% of the time. That’s OOS hunters gripe I’d bet. Doubling the license cost (they have to pay it due to being caught “over” someone else’s bait pile) but the hunting is still sub-par compared to Midwest states. I know, we got like 6 months (it seems) to hunt, but there’s still that magical 2 weeks where the odds go up and hunting is better......to kill a 110” deer.
If I had my choice and could just drive anywhere at any point in time and go hunt, Alabama wouldn’t get not one red cent from me. I get tired of sitting in a pine thicket watching 50 yards, maybe, in either direction and feeling lucky to see 5 deer. P&Y or B&C is rare unless you hunt in one of the very few spots that they’re somewhat common. I guess what I’m getting at is, we just don’t have the type deer they do, and most hunt now to kill something and measure the bone on its head. That’s not everything to me, but seeing deer and enjoying watching game of all types is. Can’t do that here unless you find a place to lease that people actually care about wildlife and mange for wildlife and not only trees.
I guess to get back to the point you’re trying to make, why charge an extra “tax” to put out bait? If license cost need to be raised then raise them. Don’t put the people that hunt here in a predicament that could cause even more controversy than there already is between hunters. Surely they could see that this could do just that?? I thought license sales were down?? Couldn’t this hinder that even more?
I’m all over the place, probably because I have enjoyed a few margaritas tonight, but this is my thoughts and opinions for the most part.
This is Aldeer! The place people come to vent their frustrations and completely change their stance a few minutes later...
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: Squeaky]
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05/19/19 09:03 PM
05/19/19 09:03 PM
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therealhojo
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I bought that same preference point today for a mere $65. I now have $195 invested in points and I’ll need to invest in another next year before I’ll have enough to draw. I’ll have $265 in just points before I ever get to apply for the $600+ tag. I’ll also pay the state of Illinois $465 + $365 + $50.25 + $5.50 + convenience fees to hunt their state. I’ll gladly pay the $15 fee for the privilege to feed if I choose to do so. I’ve learned hunting can be as expensive as one wants to make it be or pretty cheap if utilizing public land. In my opinion it’s all about personal choices. Valid!!!!
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: UncleHuck]
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05/19/19 09:14 PM
05/19/19 09:14 PM
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I look at preference points as "reservation fees"
I have friends who think preference points are dumb, but they never go to the beach without a reservation......
But you don't have to pay a reservation fee just to get to talk to the booking person. The points don't bother me at all. As Squeaky said, you can spend as much or a little as you want. I guess my point is, I think hunting in Alabama is pretty easy and inexpensive. The SOA lottery doesn't cost anything to enter. Heck you don't even have to have a license to enter, even non resident. Just have to buy one if you are drawn and choose to hunt. Does the Gator draw cost anything? I cannot remember. I have entered all the gator hunts the past 3 years and haven't even gotten an alternate. I do think you get preference point there??? With my luck I will have to buy 5-6 points in Iowa before I get drawn. The average is 3. But I'm not counting on that for me.
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: Johnal3]
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05/19/19 09:24 PM
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I guess to get back to the point you’re trying to make, why charge an extra “tax” to put out bait? If license cost need to be raised then raise them. Don’t put the people that hunt here in a predicament that could cause even more controversy than there already is between hunters. Surely they could see that this could do just that?? I thought license sales were down?? Couldn’t this hinder that even more?
I’m all over the place, probably because I have enjoyed a few margaritas tonight, but this is my thoughts and opinions for the most part.
I'm not against the $15 permit at all. I really didn't care one way or the other. It will not change anything I do. I was making the point that I paid $65 for basically nothing. Just moving my name up on a list. I've paid Iowa $125 so far and have never hunted a day.
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: Clem]
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05/19/19 09:26 PM
05/19/19 09:26 PM
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Neither of those states have baiting "privilege" fees, either
I think alabama holds exclusive title to that particular embarrassment.
My opinions and comments are my own. They do not reflect the position or political opinions of Aldeer or any of the Aldeer administration.
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: therealhojo]
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05/19/19 10:00 PM
05/19/19 10:00 PM
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Posts: 12,246 Oxford, AL. USA
Big Game Hunter
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I’ve been applying for sheep tags in 8 draws for the last 13 years.
I really don’t want to know what I’ve spent thus far.
I can swing the $15 baiting fee and I won’t complain.
IKNOWMYPHUCKINGCODEDAMMITYOUDICKHEAD!!!
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: UncleHuck]
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05/19/19 10:05 PM
05/19/19 10:05 PM
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Clem
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I look at preference points as "reservation fees"
I have friends who think preference points are dumb, but they never go to the beach without a reservation......
Good way to look at it.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: Big Game Hunter]
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05/20/19 07:39 AM
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I’ve been applying for sheep tags in 8 draws for the last 13 years.
I really don’t want to know what I’ve spent thus far.
I can swing the $15 baiting fee and I won’t complain. I feel ya, I have been playing the points game in 6 states for the past 5 yrs. I try not to think about the spending.
I can see your point,but I still think your full of crap.
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: Sasquatch Lives]
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05/20/19 08:55 AM
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Remington270
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Why don't you just hunt alabama or another state. They all have big bucks if you put in the time. Not compared to Iowa or Kansas. I know people that go to those places for a week each year and almost always come back with a monster. You simply won't do that in Alabama, especially not with a bow. It's just better out there.
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: therealhojo]
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05/20/19 09:07 AM
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TickaTicka
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I play the game too.
The game wouldn't exist if there wasn't so much demand. In other words, we continually fund it's existence.
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: therealhojo]
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05/20/19 09:09 AM
05/20/19 09:09 AM
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Clem
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Rem is correct. Despite the crazy costs of a license, the chance at a great buck is far greater in Iowa or Kansas than here.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: Clem]
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05/20/19 10:06 AM
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Rem is correct. Despite the crazy costs of a license, the chance at a great buck is far greater in Iowa or Kansas than here.
Some of the 3-1/2 YO bucks in Kansas and Iowa that you pass up there would be a buck of a lifetime in Alabama.
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