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Re: No Baiting Clubs? [Re: ALclearcut] #2808915
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Originally Posted by ALclearcut
It's like buying a summer long pass to a water park, but then they open a new slide and tell you that particular slide isn't included in the summer pass.


Good analogy. I want to ride all the slides...

Re: No Baiting Clubs? [Re: longshot] #2808921
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You can still hunt the way you were hunting when you bought the lifetime license, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUY THE BAIT LICENSE AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO HUNT OVER BAIT.

Re: No Baiting Clubs? [Re: timbercruiser] #2808972
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Originally Posted by timbercruiser
You can still hunt the way you were hunting when you bought the lifetime license, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUY THE BAIT LICENSE AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO HUNT OVER BAIT.


So let's say next year the state puts out a new $50 permit to get to gun hunt a week before the regular gun season . You don't have to buy that permit and you don't have to hunt a week early. Is this what we want hunting in Alabama to become? A patchwork of permit after permit to the point of where a hunting license is just the bare minimum you need in order to have the privilege of buying all the extra permits? Because now that the state has figured out you can add new permits as a revenue tool, that is what any new changes will become. Want to kill a 4th buck? Buy a permit. Want to hunt the rut in February? Buy a permit.

Re: No Baiting Clubs? [Re: longshot] #2809012
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ALclearcut, I believe all of your concerns are valid. It's like there's been a breach of contract by the state in your purchase. I have 2 nephews in your same predicament. Fight the state in court, I'm sure that would be cheap (sarcasm). Don't purchase the additional license and don't hunt over bait, you will be rolling the dice. I don't see how you can't purchase the license, there is corn sold everywhere. Has anyone on this site not found corn while hunting/scouting? I will purchase the license because I don't trust every person that is in the woods.

Re: No Baiting Clubs? [Re: longshot] #2809070
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There’s a big no bait club. It’s called the WMA system.


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Re: No Baiting Clubs? [Re: ALclearcut] #2809201
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Originally Posted by ALclearcut
15 bucks is no big deal for the in state baiting permit (although I still think it is a ridiculous money/power grab by the state). I'm in the 1% of people affected here, but the $50 out of state permit is ridiculous. I paid big money for a lifetime hunting and fishing license when I lived in AL, and now that I'm a FL resident I can't hunt anywhere in AL there is bait without forking over 50 bucks a season. Makes the lifetime license seem pointless and nearly a broken promise if I paid all that money and still can't hunt at a friend's place if they have bait. There ought to be a baiting permit exception for lifetime license holders. The whole point of the lifetime license was to pay for everything you needed to hunt in a one time fee and never worry about it again the rest of your life. When I bought that lifetime license it covered any form of hunting without exception. Now they are adding an exception. What is next? A "deer tag" that isn't included in your lifetime license with a $150 out of state fee?



My point exactly last week about the "It's just a minor inconvenience" crowd.

This affects a lot of folks in different ways. Lifetime owners now have to fork over more money in some situations. Non-residents like ALclearcut who have a lifetime license now have to fork over $50. And for anyone who says "You don't HAVE to do it," y'all know that's f'king bullcrap. People will quit hunting because of this OR they'll pay the money, and then in another few years it'll increase to $25 and $65 or whatever. Why? Because they can. And because y'all are frogs in the pot of water on the stove with the temperature being turned up bit by bit.

As Fred said, ten bucks ain't much until it is. When $51 becomes $153 or $204 for a non-resident dad and kids, he may rethink hunting here.


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Re: No Baiting Clubs? [Re: AC870] #2809218
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Originally Posted by AC870

There’s a big no bait club. It’s called the WMA system.


Yep

Re: No Baiting Clubs? [Re: timbercruiser] #2809240
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Originally Posted by timbercruiser
You can still hunt the way you were hunting when you bought the lifetime license, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUY THE BAIT LICENSE AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO HUNT OVER BAIT.


Ignorant take.

If you belong to a club that will allow baiting, you will HAVE to buy the license, or be subject to a ticket. Just the way it is.


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Re: No Baiting Clubs? [Re: walt4dun] #2809241
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Originally Posted by walt4dun
Southside will not bait and I understand Carney will not either.


Yep...talked to Justin last week...they will not bait.


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Re: No Baiting Clubs? [Re: longshot] #2809247
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Nothing at all ignorant or wrong about my take. I don't care how you hunt as long as it is legal, you still do not have to buy the baiting license or hunt with bait.

Re: No Baiting Clubs? [Re: timbercruiser] #2809267
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Originally Posted by timbercruiser
Nothing at all ignorant or wrong about my take. I don't care how you hunt as long as it is legal, you still do not have to buy the baiting license or hunt with bait.


You're not realistic.

Bait doesn't even have to still be where you're hunting....just not gone for 10 days. Guess what...you get a ticket unless you buy a permit.

If you belong to a club that is going to allow baiting on all club property, you pretty much are forced to buy a permit...or be subject to a ticket for hunting over bait.

Not really hard to understand.


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Re: No Baiting Clubs? [Re: longshot] #2809289
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^^^ This is true.

Show up at your buddy's club and he has feeders but you don't hunt that way. What are you going to do? Sit on your ass all weekend? Hunt squirrels? Go home? Hunt anyway and maybe get a citation?

Or fork over the money the state wants for this "privilege" and hunt?

They know you probably will. Why? Because "it's just a minor inconvenience."


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Re: No Baiting Clubs? [Re: timbercruiser] #2809311
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Originally Posted by timbercruiser
Nothing at all ignorant or wrong about my take. I don't care how you hunt as long as it is legal, you still do not have to buy the baiting license or hunt with bait.


I don’t think it’s the issue with using bait. I’m thinking it’s more an issue with someone else using it an others not knowing about it and then being checked for a permit. Or just a fact of having to pay for the permit even if you don’t want to use bait just to keep from getting a citation.


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Re: No Baiting Clubs? [Re: longshot] #2809319
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Start your own club, plant green fields (that's not baiting?), put out white salt, hunt acorn trees. Hunt state management land, hunt federal land or join a club that isn't going to bait. It isn't the end of hunting and a sack of corn isn't a guarantee you are going to kill a mature buck. I will be buying the $51 license and won't complain at all.

Re: No Baiting Clubs? [Re: timbercruiser] #2809338
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Originally Posted by timbercruiser
Start your own club, plant green fields (that's not baiting?), put out white salt, hunt acorn trees. Hunt state management land, hunt federal land or join a club that isn't going to bait. It isn't the end of hunting and a sack of corn isn't a guarantee you are going to kill a mature buck. I will be buying the $51 license and won't complain at all.

$51 dollar license? Damn Timber, you get extra perks with that platinum package.

Re: No Baiting Clubs? [Re: longshot] #2809363
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Originally Posted by longshot

Or just a fact of having to pay for the permit even if you don’t want to use bait just to keep from getting a citation.



This, yes.

I shouldn't have to pay for a "privilege" to keep from getting cited if I visit someone for hogs or deer.


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Re: No Baiting Clubs? [Re: turkey247] #2809371
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Originally Posted by turkey247
More freaking club drama. Period.


Yep.

Battle of corn piles.

Battle over who gets to hunt the biggest corn pile.

Battle of who put the corn pile there.

Stacking corn on and near property lines.
Because the Bible says love thy neighbor.

Deer hunting has clearly been improved.


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Re: No Baiting Clubs? [Re: WmHunter] #2809374
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Originally Posted by WmHunter
Originally Posted by turkey247
More freaking club drama. Period.


Yep.

Battle of corn piles.

Battle over who gets to hunt the biggest corn pile.

Battle of who put the corn pile there.

Stacking corn on and near property lines.
Because the Bible says love thy neighbor.

Deer hunting has clearly been improved.



You ain't seen nothing yet.

Wait until clubs begin getting broken up into "sections" and you can only hunt whichever section is assigned to you.

It's coming.


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Re: No Baiting Clubs? [Re: hunterbuck] #2809381
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Originally Posted by hunterbuck


Wait until clubs begin getting broken up into "sections" and you can only hunt whichever section is assigned to you.




I thought this already happened. People hunted their "area" and if they hung a stand in an "area" that was "their area" and anyone else going in there was a fargin icehole who better leave "the area."


Corn will make all this easier.


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Originally Posted by Clem
Originally Posted by hunterbuck


Wait until clubs begin getting broken up into "sections" and you can only hunt whichever section is assigned to you.




I thought this already happened. People hunted their "area" and if they hung a stand in an "area" that was "their area" and anyone else going in there was a fargin icehole who better leave "the area."


Corn will make all this easier.


Yeah, we joke about that here, but it's a real thing in Florida...pretty much everywhere in my neck of the woods. By necessity, too...not by choice.

A lot of guys I know sit in the same shooting house all year long every time they go "hunting".

It has to be miserable.



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