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Best Muzzleloaders
#2802432
05/07/19 09:09 PM
05/07/19 09:09 PM
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Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 4,329
Northeast Florida
BamaGrad85
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10 point
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10 point
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Northeast Florida
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Wanting to spend less than $500 on a muzzleloader. What's out there for a beginner? Scope or iron sights? What scope do you prefer?
I came, I saw, so I killed them all......Vern
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Re: Best Muzzleloaders
[Re: BamaGrad85]
#2802667
05/08/19 08:29 AM
05/08/19 08:29 AM
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Posts: 9,163
B'ham
Goatkiller
14 point
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14 point
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Posts: 9,163
B'ham
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Another vote for the TC Encore Pro Hunter. Just a standard 3-9x40 scope is all you need. Nothing fancy.
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Re: Best Muzzleloaders
[Re: BamaGrad85]
#2802788
05/08/19 11:08 AM
05/08/19 11:08 AM
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Posts: 150
Hoover
dsayer
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Posts: 150
Hoover
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Well you're obviously interested in a modern/inline rifle since you also asked about a scope. In which case, I'd agree with @square about the CVA Accura. It's a great rifle. But if I had $500 to drop on a muzzleloader, I'd mosey over to the classified ad section of https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com and get something more "traditional". There are usually a number of guys selling Lyman GPRs, older CVAs, and similar rifles at great prices. It's also a great resource for TRADITIONAL muzzleloading. They'll run you out of there if you even mention an inline or any type of modern projectile.
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Re: Best Muzzleloaders
[Re: BamaGrad85]
#2802818
05/08/19 11:49 AM
05/08/19 11:49 AM
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Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 21,445
HSV AL
jmudler
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 21,445
HSV AL
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TC in the classifieds. Click meSave $275 for corn and feeders 
Last edited by jmudler; 05/08/19 11:51 AM.
Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
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Re: Best Muzzleloaders
[Re: square]
#2802916
05/08/19 01:51 PM
05/08/19 01:51 PM
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Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 9,163
B'ham
Goatkiller
14 point
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14 point
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B'ham
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CVA Accura - Bergara barrels are better than any anything Thompson sells. Bold statement. I was pretty happy with MOA @200 over 209 powder with a Pro Hunter. Should I sell it and get a CVA? Maybe I should go back to shooting round balls while I'm at it. I would buy a CVA though. Nothing wrong with them.
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Re: Best Muzzleloaders
[Re: BamaGrad85]
#2802979
05/08/19 03:43 PM
05/08/19 03:43 PM
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Posts: 6,095
Anniston, AL
ikillbux
ishootatbux
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ishootatbux
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 6,095
Anniston, AL
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I had a CVA Accura, and it was nice, no complaints. I sold that gun, and now have a CVA Optima with the thumbhole stock. I'm 101% satisfied.
You can buy an Optima AND a darn nice scope for somewhat less than $500.
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Re: Best Muzzleloaders
[Re: Cousneddy]
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05/09/19 08:53 PM
05/09/19 08:53 PM
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Posts: 4,329
Northeast Florida
BamaGrad85
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Northeast Florida
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I have owned Knight, Thompson and CVA. My current muzzleloader is a CVA Apex with a Begera barrel and Thompson Omega. I sold my CVA Optima to my son, both CVAs shoot better than I can. The Thompson Omega is a good shooter also, but I'd probably give a slight edge to the Apex. The quick release breech plug is really nice, something my Omega and old Knight didn't have. I really believe the muzzleloader market is much like the center fire market, there are some really accurate guns for not a lot of money. I definitely recommend getting something that shoots blackhorn 209 powder, it is a game changer when it comes to barrel fouling. For a all-in budget of $500 you can come up with a good combo. It would actually be for gun only. I have an old Nikon 3x9x40 prostaff I can put on it. I hear and have read that TC Impact is a good starter muzzle loader. Does anyone have one? What are your thoughts?
I came, I saw, so I killed them all......Vern
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Re: Best Muzzleloaders
[Re: BamaGrad85]
#2805721
05/12/19 10:00 AM
05/12/19 10:00 AM
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Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 11,147
Central Alabama
Cuz-Pat
Booner
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Booner
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 11,147
Central Alabama
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I have the TC Encore Endeavor. Great ML but the original barrel that came on it new wouldn't shoot a 12" group. Got it took back to Mark's and they had TC send them a new barrel for it.
It shoots great now and I have a target with 3 shots all touching at 100 yards using the BH209 and Hornady 250 grain bullets.
Cuz-Pat
Patton's European Mounts
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Re: Best Muzzleloaders
[Re: 243Win]
#2807455
05/14/19 06:46 PM
05/14/19 06:46 PM
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Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 4,329
Northeast Florida
BamaGrad85
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10 point
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10 point
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Northeast Florida
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I have the tc impact. I'm gonna say 2 1/2 in groups with triple 7 and whatever walmart ammo I bought. If I would get serious with it I could do better I know but I havent used it in 2 or 3 years what about the pics you were going to send me please?
I came, I saw, so I killed them all......Vern
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Re: Best Muzzleloaders
[Re: Hogwild]
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05/15/19 09:43 AM
05/15/19 09:43 AM
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Posts: 4,148
Ramer
ronfromramer
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10 point
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Posts: 4,148
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I have a CVA Accura V2 LR that paid only slightly more than your budget price for that I love. It is a fine shooting gun that has been the demise of several fine bucks the past couple of years. And, based on the number of people who have borrowed it to take on mid-West hunts, I must not be the only one that thinks so! That's what I have and it's very accurate and the stainless Bergara barrel is great, easy to clean and doesn't corrode if you don't clean it when you should, just speaking for a friend
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Re: Best Muzzleloaders
[Re: BamaGrad85]
#2808164
05/15/19 09:27 PM
05/15/19 09:27 PM
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Posts: 4,329
Northeast Florida
BamaGrad85
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Posts: 4,329
Northeast Florida
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What about the CVA "Wolf"? I like the screw on breech plug. Does anyone on Aldeer haven? Pro's & Con's?
I came, I saw, so I killed them all......Vern
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Re: Best Muzzleloaders
[Re: BamaGrad85]
#2811963
05/21/19 07:51 AM
05/21/19 07:51 AM
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Posts: 5,914
Pine Hill, Al
Todd1700
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12 point
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 5,914
Pine Hill, Al
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If you can find a TC z5 omega in good shape I would recommend it. TC discontinued it and everyone says the reason was that it was too good for the price range it sold in and was hurting sales of the more expensive models. It's a drop breach design that allows you to pull the plug for easy cleaning. The one I have loaded with 100 grains of loose pyrodex behind a 250 grain Shockwave bullet will shoot 1 1/2 inch groups all day.
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