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Re: 5/4 vs 2x Decking Material
[Re: Rebelman]
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04/20/19 08:49 PM
04/20/19 08:49 PM
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I thought you were in the lumber business???
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: 5/4 vs 2x Decking Material
[Re: Rebelman]
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04/20/19 08:55 PM
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Just curious, why do you need that much added strength? The strength isn’t so much in the decking as it is in the framing underneath, except for point loads. I’ve seen lots of hot tubs, which is extremely heavy, on regular decking. They just had to add additional framing and bracing underneath.
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Re: 5/4 vs 2x Decking Material
[Re: Dixiepatriot]
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04/20/19 09:12 PM
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5/4x 20’I can’t imagine 20’ PT being straight. True. Can you picture what it'll look like once it dries out.
Last edited by mark; 04/20/19 09:16 PM.
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Re: 5/4 vs 2x Decking Material
[Re: 257wbymag]
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04/20/19 09:23 PM
04/20/19 09:23 PM
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I thought you were in the lumber business??? Nah. I grow em. Don’t have many contacts for end products, especially treated.
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Re: 5/4 vs 2x Decking Material
[Re: Rebelman]
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04/20/19 09:27 PM
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Look at sturdy deck? I believe that’s the name of it. Not a true 2x6 but close and has the rounded edge but does cost a little more. Has a lifetime warranty
Last edited by Turkey_neck; 04/20/19 09:29 PM.
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Re: 5/4 vs 2x Decking Material
[Re: Rebelman]
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04/20/19 09:38 PM
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I thought you were in the lumber business??? Nah. I grow em. Don’t have many contacts for end products, especially treated. Ah. 10/4
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: 5/4 vs 2x Decking Material
[Re: Rebelman]
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04/20/19 09:48 PM
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Johnal3
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Nobody is going to provide you with all straight 2x6’s or 5/4 boards out of a bundle. (Alfa lumber in Birmingham provides the best no.1 pine you can get) Especially 20’ long. That’s what a small nail bar to pull boards straight before you nail or screw them, or “pull nails” are for. (That’s a nail angled in the side of the board to pull it straight) Your decking depends upon the joist center width. If you’re building a regular deck with no hot tub or anything else super heavy on top, then 5/4 boards with joists on 16” centers will be fine. With 2x6”s you can move your joist out to 24” centers. A 2x8 joist should span no further than 12’ without a girder. Just FYI. You can thank these rapid growing pine trees for knotty, crookedass boards.
Last edited by Johnal3; 04/20/19 09:51 PM.
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Re: 5/4 vs 2x Decking Material
[Re: Myerz]
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04/20/19 09:49 PM
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Johnal3
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it froze over
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2x6 porch decks are the way to go! You get less splitting and warping after they (pressure treated) dry out some. The added strength is a plus as well. The cost is very similar for a sturdier product!! True statement here. I’d go with 2x6’s all day.
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Re: 5/4 vs 2x Decking Material
[Re: Johnal3]
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04/20/19 09:51 PM
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Nobody is going to provide you with all straight 2x6’s or 5/4 boards out of a bundle. (Alfa lumber in Birmingham provides the best no.1 pine you can get) Especially 20’ long. That’s what a small nail bar to pull boards straight before you nail or screw them, or “pull nails” are for. (That’s a nail angled in the side of the board to pull it straight) Your decking depends upon the joist center width. If you’re building a regular deck with no hot tub or anything else super heavy on top, then 5/4 boards with joists on 16” centers will be fine. With 2x6”s you can move your joist out to 24” centers. A 2x8 joist should spam no further than 12’ without a girder. Just FYI. You can thank these rapid growing pine trees for knotty, crookedass boards. Spoken like a fella that knows his business.... well said Johnal3
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Re: 5/4 vs 2x Decking Material
[Re: scrubbuck]
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04/20/19 09:59 PM
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Johnal3
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I used 2x6 treated deck boards 10 years ago when I built my house. It's under covered porch. All the ones around outer 3 feet or so have rotted. May have been the batch I got, but the centers rotted completely out. Treatment looks like it was dipped rather than pressure treated. I know of a lot of 5/4 that has lasted a lot longer under more harsh conditions. If you can find out where that wood came from, they’ll replace it for close to free. You still have to pay for labor, but it’ll save you some money if you want to deal with the headache of finding a dealer and having them come out to look at it. Treated lumber under a cover should never rot in 10 years unless it is in contact with the ground.
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Re: 5/4 vs 2x Decking Material
[Re: scrubbuck]
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04/20/19 10:01 PM
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I used 2x6 treated deck boards 10 years ago when I built my house. It's under covered porch. All the ones around outer 3 feet or so have rotted. May have been the batch I got, but the centers rotted completely out. Treatment looks like it was dipped rather than pressure treated. I know of a lot of 5/4 that has lasted a lot longer under more harsh conditions. The treatment 10 years ago had a lot of failures. They have gone back to ground treating everything and it is making a difference in longevity.
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Re: 5/4 vs 2x Decking Material
[Re: Rebelman]
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04/20/19 10:04 PM
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Johnal3
it froze over
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it froze over
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I used 2x6 treated deck boards 10 years ago when I built my house. It's under covered porch. All the ones around outer 3 feet or so have rotted. May have been the batch I got, but the centers rotted completely out. Treatment looks like it was dipped rather than pressure treated. I know of a lot of 5/4 that has lasted a lot longer under more harsh conditions. The treatment 10 years ago had a lot of failures. They have gone back to ground treating everything and it is making a difference in longevity. I don’t think they’re “ground treating” everything, but yellowwood had a ton of issues back in those days for sure. We can thank the EPA and all the “green” tree hugger typea for that.
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Re: 5/4 vs 2x Decking Material
[Re: Johnal3]
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04/20/19 10:33 PM
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I used 2x6 treated deck boards 10 years ago when I built my house. It's under covered porch. All the ones around outer 3 feet or so have rotted. May have been the batch I got, but the centers rotted completely out. Treatment looks like it was dipped rather than pressure treated. I know of a lot of 5/4 that has lasted a lot longer under more harsh conditions. The treatment 10 years ago had a lot of failures. They have gone back to ground treating everything and it is making a difference in longevity. I don’t think they’re “ground treating” everything, but yellowwood had a ton of issues back in those days for sure. We can thank the EPA and all the “green” tree hugger typea for that. Yes they did and I have a brand new deck because of it. I built the first one and I built this one. The lumber was free the 2nd time. It took me almost a year to get the guy out here to look at it though. I'm not sure if that's his fault or the guy at the lumber company.
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
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Re: 5/4 vs 2x Decking Material
[Re: Myerz]
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04/20/19 10:53 PM
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2x6 porch decks are the way to go! You get less splitting and warping after they (pressure treated) dry out some. The added strength is a plus as well. The cost is very similar for a sturdier product!! Very true. I will never use 5/4 boards again.
If you're gonna be stupid you better be tough.
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Re: 5/4 vs 2x Decking Material
[Re: BCLC]
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04/21/19 08:01 AM
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Nobody is going to provide you with all straight 2x6’s or 5/4 boards out of a bundle. (Alfa lumber in Birmingham provides the best no.1 pine you can get) Especially 20’ long. That’s what a small nail bar to pull boards straight before you nail or screw them, or “pull nails” are for. (That’s a nail angled in the side of the board to pull it straight) Your decking depends upon the joist center width. If you’re building a regular deck with no hot tub or anything else super heavy on top, then 5/4 boards with joists on 16” centers will be fine. With 2x6”s you can move your joist out to 24” centers. A 2x8 joist should spam no further than 12’ without a girder. Just FYI. You can thank these rapid growing pine trees for knotty, crookedass boards. Spoken like a fella that knows his business.... well said Johnal3 Yes, but it's spelled Alpha Lumber. 😀 Jumbo and his guys are the best in the business. Do not use a router to ease the edges of the 2x6 lumber. The preservative treatment does not penetrate deep into the boards and you may be exposing untreated lumber.
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