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Bass fishermen and spinning rods #2786766
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I was sitting here eating lunch and thinking about something and decided to ask on here. I’ve noticed over the years that bass fishermen hate spinning rods and reels and often refer to them as sissy sticks and fairy wands and act like you can’t catch a bass on anything other than a baitcaster. I think this is all done under the false assumption that bass fight hard, which they do not, and they act like a spinning rod just won’t hold up to the strength of a bass. Meanwhile, in many types of saltwater fishing, where the fish fight much harder and get much bigger, the spinning rod is the preferred rod because of the stronger drag systems and higher line capacity. I have caught a 43 lb blue cat and several stripers up to 26 lbs on the same exact spinning rods and reels that i use to bass fish. I guess my question is why is there so much hate for spinning rods in the bass world? It’s like some of y’all are in a dark corner that you refuse to come out of. It would make it much easier to skip under docks and present some of the tiny lures y’all like to use. I just don’t get it.


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Re: Bass fishermen and spinning rods [Re: tfd1224] #2786769
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Not sure where you are coming from. About every serious bass fisherman i know has at least one and most 2-3 just for finesse fishing if nothing else.
I don't go to the lake without my 6,6 med/fast. I've caught way to many fish on that thing to ever leave it at home.
if they aren't using one they are missing out on bites in my opinion.

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Re: Bass fishermen and spinning rods [Re: tfd1224] #2786771
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I always keep one spinning setup on my deck. I use this for skipping senko or trick worms. Being the majority of my fishing is flipping pads or grass a spinning setup just doesn’t cut it. For those that say it will come with me to Eufaula and you’ll understand. When the bite is tough I can skip a bait with my spinning rod under trees and docks to at least catch a few.

Re: Bass fishermen and spinning rods [Re: Madmax0818] #2786791
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Originally Posted by Madmax0818
I always keep one spinning setup on my deck. I use this for skipping senko or trick worms. Being the majority of my fishing is flipping pads or grass a spinning setup just doesn’t cut it. For those that say it will come with me to Eufaula and you’ll understand. When the bite is tough I can skip a bait with my spinning rod under trees and docks to at least catch a few.

I’ve got spinning rods that are light enough to use all day and would pull 10 pounder after 10 pounder out of the weeds and have a much stronger drag than any baitcaster you own. Next


Yeah c’mon. Daniel White
Re: Bass fishermen and spinning rods [Re: buzzard] #2786793
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Originally Posted by buzzard
Not sure where you are coming from. About every serious bass fisherman i know has at least one and most 2-3 just for finesse fishing if nothing else.
I don't go to the lake without my 6,6 med/fast. I've caught way to many fish on that thing to ever leave it at home.
if they aren't using one they are missing out on bites in my opinion.

That’s what I’m saying, but there are bass fishermen that absolutely hate them.


Yeah c’mon. Daniel White
Re: Bass fishermen and spinning rods [Re: tfd1224] #2786797
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Originally Posted by tfd1224
I was sitting here eating lunch and thinking about something and decided to ask on here. I’ve noticed over the years that bass fishermen hate spinning rods and reels and often refer to them as sissy sticks and fairy wands and act like you can’t catch a bass on anything other than a baitcaster. I think this is all done under the false assumption that bass fight hard, which they do not, and they act like a spinning rod just won’t hold up to the strength of a bass. Meanwhile, in many types of saltwater fishing, where the fish fight much harder and get much bigger, the spinning rod is the preferred rod because of the stronger drag systems and higher line capacity. I have caught a 43 lb blue cat and several stripers up to 26 lbs on the same exact spinning rods and reels that i use to bass fish. I guess my question is why is there so much hate for spinning rods in the bass world? It’s like some of y’all are in a dark corner that you refuse to come out of. It would make it much easier to skip under docks and present some of the tiny lures y’all like to use. I just don’t get it.


You're spot on, there absolutely is some goofy "faux pas" about using a spinning rod. I think it's a combination of "macho man" (I've got to use a 7-1/2 foot X-heavy and 80# braid and try to destroy every fish that bites) and "I ain't no Yankee" (predominantly the spinning rod is an "up North" tool). The good ol' boy power-fishermen around here think they look sissy, and that tournaments can only be won by "power fishing". By and large, most fishermen are "stupid fishermen".....no, they aren't literally unintelligent, I just mean that the concept of putting the trolling motor on high and hitting every piece of visible cover along the bank is a simple concept---anybody can do that, it takes no super skill or thought. It's mindless ("stupid") fishing. And 98% of that kind of fishing would be done with lures that are best fished with baitcasters (buzzbaits, jigs, chatterbait, spinnerbait, squarebills/crankbaits, frogs)

Seriously, there's a big section of scattered grass right there, and there are two 5-lb bass in it. You can throw a buzzbait with a baitcaster and big braided line and catch them (and about 15/20% of those fish will be lost). You can also throw a Senko on spinning gear and smaller braided line and catch them (and virtually never, ever, ever lose a fish). 99% of your local-yocal bass guys will IMMEDIATELY (with a cocky tone of voice) say "Give me the baitcaster and buzzbait". Truth is, either way is 100% fine, zero problem with either choice. So I don't know why (other than macho-ism) there's such dislike for spinning gear.


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Re: Bass fishermen and spinning rods [Re: tfd1224] #2786807
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Originally Posted by tfd1224
Originally Posted by Madmax0818
I always keep one spinning setup on my deck. I use this for skipping senko or trick worms. Being the majority of my fishing is flipping pads or grass a spinning setup just doesn’t cut it. For those that say it will come with me to Eufaula and you’ll understand. When the bite is tough I can skip a bait with my spinning rod under trees and docks to at least catch a few.

I’ve got spinning rods that are light enough to use all day and would pull 10 pounder after 10 pounder out of the weeds and have a much stronger drag than any baitcaster you own. Next
That’s good you can fish a spinning rod in grass and catch 10 lbers all day. What I’m saying is when I flip a mat of hyacinth I want to know I can get him out and a spinning reel flat out ain’t gonna do it for me. If I wanted to play with him all day maybe I would. I love my spinning setup but it has its uses and for me flipping isn’t one of them.

Re: Bass fishermen and spinning rods [Re: tfd1224] #2786824
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I'd like to get more confident using a spinning rod. Do ya'll use mono, flouro, or braid. If you use braid, do you use a flouro leader? What knot do you tie?

Re: Bass fishermen and spinning rods [Re: Madmax0818] #2786838
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Originally Posted by Madmax0818
Originally Posted by tfd1224
Originally Posted by Madmax0818
I always keep one spinning setup on my deck. I use this for skipping senko or trick worms. Being the majority of my fishing is flipping pads or grass a spinning setup just doesn’t cut it. For those that say it will come with me to Eufaula and you’ll understand. When the bite is tough I can skip a bait with my spinning rod under trees and docks to at least catch a few.

I’ve got spinning rods that are light enough to use all day and would pull 10 pounder after 10 pounder out of the weeds and have a much stronger drag than any baitcaster you own. Next
That’s good you can fish a spinning rod in grass and catch 10 lbers all day. What I’m saying is when I flip a mat of hyacinth I want to know I can get him out and a spinning reel flat out ain’t gonna do it for me. If I wanted to play with him all day maybe I would. I love my spinning setup but it has its uses and for me flipping isn’t one of them.

I didn’t say i could, i said it would. You know they make more than one size of spinning reel and you can put line stronger than 8 lb mono on them right?


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Re: Bass fishermen and spinning rods [Re: Acorn] #2786842
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Originally Posted by Acorn
I'd like to get more confident using a spinning rod. Do ya'll use mono, flouro, or braid. If you use braid, do you use a flouro leader? What knot do you tie?
i use all 3 and when i use a flouro leader, i use leader material, not flouro fishing line and i tie an Albright knot.


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Originally Posted by tfd1224
Originally Posted by Acorn
I'd like to get more confident using a spinning rod. Do ya'll use mono, flouro, or braid. If you use braid, do you use a flouro leader? What knot do you tie?
i use all 3 and when i use a flouro leader, i use leader material, not flouro fishing line and i tie an Albright knot.



what's the difference in the line and leader material?


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Re: Bass fishermen and spinning rods [Re: Acorn] #2786846
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Originally Posted by Acorn
I'd like to get more confident using a spinning rod. Do ya'll use mono, flouro, or braid. If you use braid, do you use a flouro leader? What knot do you tie?


I use braid with a flouro leader. I have two spinning rods with 20# braid and 10# leader, and a 3rd rod with 30# braid (sometimes I use straight braid, but often use the same 10# leader, and have also stepped up to heavier flouro leader). I see the pros use ultra-tiny line on theirs, like they use 10# braid and 6# flouro, I haven't figured that one out yet. I fish at least one crazy-clear lake, and not once have I ever felt like the fish were seeing my line. (I mean seriously, I catch fish there on a doggone A-rig!)

I use a short leader too....I don't ever want the knot to touch my spool (I see some of the pros using a 30' leader, but sheesh that defeats the purpose, right??). So I reel the connector knot about halfway between my reel and first eyelet, then leave about 6" - 8" of line hanging off the tip of the rod. That's my leader length. I've used all the popular knots, but have decided the uni-to-uni is just more dependable and gives me no problems. It's true, the RP/Albright/Alberto knots are "smaller", but they still make a noise going through the eyelets, and I have had failure with them before, NEVER once had a failure with uni-to-uni. I tried one recently called "Slim Beauty"....good grief, I needed a nap.

Best advice I can give on this though is use an EXPENSIVE braid, do NOT scrimp here. An expensive braid is a limp braid, and you absolutely want a limp braid on spinning gear. I have settled on Seaguar Kanzen or Smackdown. (Conversely, I want a cheap, stiff braid on baitcast stuff....just the basic ol PowerPro)

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I use spinning rods for throwing slip cork setups.

I use #15 braid main line with a 10# fluorocarbon leader with a Double Uni knot.

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So do yall use a right handed retrieve with baitcaster, and left hand retrieve with spinning reel? Or am i just a dip chit?


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Originally Posted by Beadlescomb
Originally Posted by tfd1224
Originally Posted by Acorn
I'd like to get more confident using a spinning rod. Do ya'll use mono, flouro, or braid. If you use braid, do you use a flouro leader? What knot do you tie?
i use all 3 and when i use a flouro leader, i use leader material, not flouro fishing line and i tie an Albright knot.



what's the difference in the line and leader material?
leader material is harder, more abrasion resistant, sometimes has a dull finish so it doesn’t shine underwater and ties mating knots much better


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Originally Posted by HBWALKER14
So do yall use a right handed retrieve with baitcaster, and left hand retrieve with spinning reel? Or am i just a dip chit?


I do. It's most comfortable to me.

I love spinning rods, but I can never get the damn line on them to not twist up, form a loop, and knot deep in the spool. Pretty much only use an ultralight spinner.

Re: Bass fishermen and spinning rods [Re: HBWALKER14] #2786897
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Originally Posted by HBWALKER14
So do yall use a right handed retrieve with baitcaster, and left hand retrieve with spinning reel? Or am i just a dip chit?


Yep, that's what I do, always thought it was odd.

Re: Bass fishermen and spinning rods [Re: HBWALKER14] #2786900
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Originally Posted by HBWALKER14
So do yall use a right handed retrieve with baitcaster, and left hand retrieve with spinning reel? Or am i just a dip chit?
i know i do, i guess it just feels natural because it’s what I’ve always done. I know one thing, I’ve got some buddies that use the spinning reel on the right side and they have swapped my handles over and I’ve had to visually look down to see where the handle was.


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At least no one uses them upside down and backwards like the damn yankees do.

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Originally Posted by odocoileus
Originally Posted by HBWALKER14
So do yall use a right handed retrieve with baitcaster, and left hand retrieve with spinning reel? Or am i just a dip chit?


I do. It's most comfortable to me.

I love spinning rods, but I can never get the damn line on them to not twist up, form a loop, and knot deep in the spool. Pretty much only use an ultralight spinner.

If you get line twist, just let out 100 yards or so behind the boat without a lure on it and idle for about 45 seconds. Twist will be gone.


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