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Any Solutions? #2785711
04/15/19 07:54 AM
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I am having an issue with Cattle wandering all over one of our leases. There is 200 acres of solid old growth hardwood timber that does not have a turkey or deer near it anymore. Is it totally dependent on the land owner?

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Re: Any Solutions? [Re: CedarCreek] #2785716
04/15/19 08:03 AM
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Whose cattle are they? Call up the owner of them.

Re: Any Solutions? [Re: CedarCreek] #2785731
04/15/19 08:36 AM
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If u jerk it off youll b picking lil teeth out
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Call owner and tell him it's gonna be finders keepers after u give him sufficient time to fix his fences...i know I wouldn't want mine wondering around on somebody else...too much money to lose

Re: Any Solutions? [Re: CedarCreek] #2785734
04/15/19 08:48 AM
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I'm sorry but the cows aren't the reason there isn't any deer or turkeys. I hunt multiple places with livestock and it doesn't affect it


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Re: Any Solutions? [Re: CedarCreek] #2785743
04/15/19 08:53 AM
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A nice fat steer would be a much better freezer filler than some old rutty buck. Change your tactics rofl

Re: Any Solutions? [Re: Turkeymaster] #2785747
04/15/19 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Turkeymaster
I'm sorry but the cows aren't the reason there isn't any deer or turkeys. I hunt multiple places with livestock and it doesn't affect it


While I agree most of the time because most of our properties are surrounded by cattle operations. In This case they have just about destroyed the habitat along this creek bottom and made it a muddy disaster. I used to have anywhere from 2-6 gobbling turkeys every year in this area and multiple cameras running. I am getting very little deer activity and have not taken a picture of a turkey since the problem starting occuring. It is most definitely the reason.

Re: Any Solutions? [Re: Coosa1] #2785748
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Originally Posted by Coosa1
A nice fat steer would be a much better freezer filler than some old rutty buck. Change your tactics rofl


Ha trust me I have considered It.

Re: Any Solutions? [Re: CedarCreek] #2785755
04/15/19 09:10 AM
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Head shot so you don't lose any meat. When his cows stop coming back home he will understand v


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Re: Any Solutions? [Re: CedarCreek] #2785765
04/15/19 09:20 AM
04/15/19 09:20 AM
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Hunt in South AL, live in FL
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I know a guy - not a friend, just have a dealing with him and he told this story - that dealt with this for a long time and he finally got fed up with it. Let's just say there was 20+ head of dead cattle on his property by the time it was all said and done that belonged to a black family adjoining his property. When it was all said and done, he had to pay them for the cattle and he was lucky to stay out of jail b/c he was well connected. He ultimately had to leave the area b/c those people wanted his ass.

Re: Any Solutions? [Re: hallb] #2785766
04/15/19 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by hallb
I know a guy - not a friend, just have a dealing with him and he told this story - that dealt with this for a long time and he finally got fed up with it. Let's just say there was 20+ head of dead cattle on his property by the time it was all said and done that belonged to a black family adjoining his property. When it was all said and done, he had to pay them for the cattle and he was lucky to stay out of jail b/c he was well connected. He ultimately had to leave the area b/c those people wanted his ass.


Doesn't sound like your acquaintance made a smart decision.

Re: Any Solutions? [Re: Remington270] #2785776
04/15/19 09:30 AM
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I know shooting them is not the option. I was just wondering if anyone had dealt with this by getting the law involved or what all the options are? I have contacted the the land owner to see what he can do but not sure how that will go especially having it solved in a timely manner. This has been going on now for about 9 months.

Re: Any Solutions? [Re: CedarCreek] #2785794
04/15/19 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by CedarCreek
I know shooting them is not the option. I was just wondering if anyone had dealt with this by getting the law involved or what all the options are? I have contacted the the land owner to see what he can do but not sure how that will go especially having it solved in a timely manner. This has been going on now for about 9 months.


Are you talking about the landowner of the property you lease, or the adjoining land owner with the cows? I doubt the guy you lease from really cares about the cows. Deal with the cattle owner yourself, and be nice about it.

Re: Any Solutions? [Re: Remington270] #2785795
04/15/19 09:50 AM
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Hunt in South AL, live in FL
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Originally Posted by Remington270
Originally Posted by hallb
I know a guy - not a friend, just have a dealing with him and he told this story - that dealt with this for a long time and he finally got fed up with it. Let's just say there was 20+ head of dead cattle on his property by the time it was all said and done that belonged to a black family adjoining his property. When it was all said and done, he had to pay them for the cattle and he was lucky to stay out of jail b/c he was well connected. He ultimately had to leave the area b/c those people wanted his ass.


Doesn't sound like your acquaintance made a smart decision.


Uh yeah, that's why I wanted to reiterate this wasn't a friend of mine. But, I could see how this scenario could drive you crazy and feeling like there is not other legal way of addressing it...

Re: Any Solutions? [Re: hallb] #2785808
04/15/19 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by hallb
I know a guy - not a friend, just have a dealing with him and he told this story - that dealt with this for a long time and he finally got fed up with it. Let's just say there was 20+ head of dead cattle on his property by the time it was all said and done that belonged to a black family adjoining his property. When it was all said and done, he had to pay them for the cattle and he was lucky to stay out of jail b/c he was well connected. He ultimately had to leave the area b/c those people wanted his ass.


I know a guy that did that with a herd of goats that were eating all of his food plots down to the ground. According to him, the owners never knew what happened to them.

Re: Any Solutions? [Re: hallb] #2785811
04/15/19 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by hallb
Originally Posted by Remington270
Originally Posted by hallb
I know a guy - not a friend, just have a dealing with him and he told this story - that dealt with this for a long time and he finally got fed up with it. Let's just say there was 20+ head of dead cattle on his property by the time it was all said and done that belonged to a black family adjoining his property. When it was all said and done, he had to pay them for the cattle and he was lucky to stay out of jail b/c he was well connected. He ultimately had to leave the area b/c those people wanted his ass.


Doesn't sound like your acquaintance made a smart decision.


Uh yeah, that's why I wanted to reiterate this wasn't a friend of mine. But, I could see how this scenario could drive you crazy and feeling like there is not other legal way of addressing it...


I have dealt with it too. It is frustrating to have cows, especially bulls on your place. It can be downright dangerous, especially if you don't know they're there. It's usually a fencing issue. I think if it keeps happening, and the cattle owner won't fix it, a police report and paper trail is definitely smart.

Re: Any Solutions? [Re: CedarCreek] #2785824
04/15/19 10:25 AM
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Call the Sherriff / Game Wardens / and any other authority involved consistently and stay on the phone until they are more sick and tired of you than you are these cows.

Re: Any Solutions? [Re: CedarCreek] #2785836
04/15/19 10:42 AM
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Re: Any Solutions? [Re: CedarCreek] #2785838
04/15/19 10:45 AM
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While it is illegal (and unethical) to shoot them, it's also the owners responsibility to keep them safely fenced. And if he makes no attempt to do so he can be held liable for any damages.
Since you've already broken rule #1 (putting it on the interwebs) I would pay a small fee to have a lawyer send him a polite letter.

Re: Any Solutions? [Re: CedarCreek] #2785842
04/15/19 10:51 AM
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Flint City, AL
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Air horn and cattle prod?


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Re: Any Solutions? [Re: CedarCreek] #2785901
04/15/19 12:03 PM
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If theres no deer on 200acres of hardwoods, its not the cows fault.

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