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Re: Baiting vs Food Plots
[Re: UncleHuck]
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04/18/19 10:03 AM
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And there is no true scientific basis for banning feeding. Deer are social animals. I see more contact with the licking branch near one of my plots (which also has a feeder) than I ever do on a particular square foot of dirt. Literally every deer that can reach it, licks and rubs their face on it. I have also seen fawns stand on their back legs to try to do the same.
And they lick each other, regardless of the time of year or presence of bait/food. Banning feeding won't change that.
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Re: Baiting vs Food Plots
[Re: Johnal3]
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04/18/19 11:05 AM
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"So take aways.... baiting is only going to be permissible on private to leased land is something of a take away." This is exactly why it should not be legalized! Given a choice the VAST MAJORITY of hunters would choose hunting PRIVATE land over PUBLIC land because it is BETTER hunting in the vast majority of places. If baiting is going to be legal it should be legal everywhere and the State public lands should be REQUIRED to set up permanent baiting stations and fees charged to ALL hunters the to pay for it.
However, if one believes that placed bait is the only way to kill a deer in Alabama, then maybe one needs to reconsider their hobbies. "Given a choice the VAST MAJORITY of hunters would choose hunting PRIVATE land over PUBLIC land" Given a choice? Everybody has that exact choice right now. All you have to do is stroke a check if you want to hunt private. Therefore, the rest of your argument does not hold water. Everyone in the state should have to pay so that there are bait stations on state land for public use to make sure that the people that make the choice to hunt state lands can hunt over public bait stations ? Grow up man and look up the definition of Socialism. It dont fly with me. If better hunting is what you want, work a second job, marry someone with private land, friend someone that has land, budget better to be able to afford it. There's always options if you dont like your situation. For the record I'm 100% against baiting and think the fines should be 10x higher if you're caught hunting over it or it is found on the property you hunt. Fine job of missing the point and knowing nothing about me and I don't plan on educating anyone. Thanks So, get married to someone for their land? That’ll last... A “friend” that is “friends” with you because of what you have is no friend at all. If that’s really the way you think, I’m sure you’re a great friend and husband. Just listing all the options for you slick. Didn't say I agreed or supported any of them. And I am a great friend and husband. Been married for 27 yrs.
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Re: Baiting vs Food Plots
[Re: NSDQ160]
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04/18/19 02:15 PM
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Wait until the fights break out. There are gonna be those at certain clubs that are for feeders, they are gonna foot the bill for the equipment and bait then get ultra pissed when someone else hunts over it. This is gonna encourage a possessive entitlement mentality for supreme locations that would otherwise be free chase. It also forces everyone in the club to buy a permit whether they want to or not because they may have to hunt near bait or be cock blocked by feeding equipment.
They will use the excuse that “you have X-Amount of other acres to hunt, go hunt somewhere else”.
These type fights even break out on federal lands that I hunt with supposed civilized GI’s, Retired GI’s, Dependents, and Civil employees. Some folk don’t wanna share a shared spot.
And, when I’m hunting a shared spot I disable the feeders because I don’t want the noise.
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Re: Baiting vs Food Plots
[Re: JohnnyLoco]
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04/18/19 04:02 PM
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Wait until the fights break out. There are gonna be those at certain clubs that are for feeders, they are gonna foot the bill for the equipment and bait then get ultra pissed when someone else hunts over it. This is gonna encourage a possessive entitlement mentality for supreme locations that would otherwise be free chase. It also forces everyone in the club to buy a permit whether they want to or not because they may have to hunt near bait or be cock blocked by feeding equipment.
They will use the excuse that “you have X-Amount of other acres to hunt, go hunt somewhere else”.
These type fights even break out on federal lands that I hunt with supposed civilized GI’s, Retired GI’s, Dependents, and Civil employees. Some folk don’t wanna share a shared spot.
And, when I’m hunting a shared spot I disable the feeders because I don’t want the noise.
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Re: Baiting vs Food Plots
[Re: NSDQ160]
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04/18/19 04:26 PM
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Wonder what % folks bait already. I would think this number is high. The Evergreen Piggly wiggly keeps a pallet of corn at the front door for $6.00 a bag and I will bet it ain't just for chickens.
Grandma said...Always keep a gun close at hand, you just never know when you might run across some varmint that needs killing...
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Re: Baiting vs Food Plots
[Re: jacannon]
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04/18/19 04:32 PM
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Wonder what % folks bait already. I would think this number is high. The Evergreen Piggly wiggly keeps a pallet of corn at the front door for $6.00 a bag and I will bet it ain't just for chickens. I’m often accused of being cynical and not seeing the best in others but if I had to guess I would venture that at least 50% of every person that hunted in Alabama this year broke some kind of law WILLINGLY. The way people just non-chalantly talk about doing things like bait, or cross lines or shoot too late etc leads me to believe that.
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Re: Baiting vs Food Plots
[Re: NSDQ160]
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04/18/19 06:19 PM
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Wonder what % folks bait already. I would think this number is high. The Evergreen Piggly wiggly keeps a pallet of corn at the front door for $6.00 a bag and I will bet it ain't just for chickens. I’m often accused of being cynical and not seeing the best in others but if I had to guess I would venture that at least 50% of every person that hunted in Alabama this year broke some kind of law WILLINGLY. The way people just non-chalantly talk about doing things like bait, or cross lines or shoot too late etc leads me to believe that. Game check is only getting 35% participation, so your 50% is way too high right off the bat
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Re: Baiting vs Food Plots
[Re: crenshawco]
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04/18/19 06:26 PM
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Wonder what % folks bait already. I would think this number is high. The Evergreen Piggly wiggly keeps a pallet of corn at the front door for $6.00 a bag and I will bet it ain't just for chickens. I’m often accused of being cynical and not seeing the best in others but if I had to guess I would venture that at least 50% of every person that hunted in Alabama this year broke some kind of law WILLINGLY. The way people just non-chalantly talk about doing things like bait, or cross lines or shoot too late etc leads me to believe that. Game check is only getting 35% participation, so your 50% is way too high right off the bat You’re exactly right, so at a minimum 65% of hunters broke the law
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Re: Baiting vs Food Plots
[Re: NSDQ160]
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04/18/19 09:32 PM
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Wonder what % folks bait already. I would think this number is high. The Evergreen Piggly wiggly keeps a pallet of corn at the front door for $6.00 a bag and I will bet it ain't just for chickens. I’m often accused of being cynical and not seeing the best in others but if I had to guess I would venture that at least 50% of every person that hunted in Alabama this year broke some kind of law WILLINGLY. The way people just non-chalantly talk about doing things like bait, or cross lines or shoot too late etc leads me to believe that. Game check is only getting 35% participation, so your 50% is way too high right off the bat You’re exactly right, so at a minimum 65% of hunters broke the law Says who? Where does the 35% come from? I know Mr Sykes says it but is it accurate?
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Re: Baiting vs Food Plots
[Re: NSDQ160]
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04/19/19 04:50 AM
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crenshawco
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Says who? Where does the 35% come from? I know Mr Sykes says it but is it accurate?
That's a dumb question. Dont you know everything Chucky says is accurate? Us peons have no business questioning him
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Re: Baiting vs Food Plots
[Re: NSDQ160]
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04/20/19 11:49 AM
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Man, I'm really glad someone posted this. I was thinking we really needed to discuss it.
Im surprised no one has ever brought it up before.
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Re: Baiting vs Food Plots
[Re: Antlerfluke]
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06/24/19 07:24 AM
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The food plots I plant are FAR more beneficial to my deer herd than a corn feeder. I can grow more tonnage of deer food cheaper than corn.
There IS a difference!!
Give me food plots and I aint' talkin' ryegrass, either!!! "Oh, my food plots look so greeenn!!!" says a hunter. They're ryegrass, sir!! Anyway...
I don't plant ryegrass. Most people plant in the fall to "hunt" over... I'd like to think I do both. I feed my deer herd with quality food plots and I hunt over my food plots too.
Not real big into corn.
Would you hunt over a standing corn field? There is no difference, only in people's minds. Another elitist thinking their way is the only way. Food is food, period. Both attract deer, period.
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Re: Baiting vs Food Plots
[Re: Antlerfluke]
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06/24/19 09:04 AM
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The food plots I plant are FAR more beneficial to my deer herd than a corn feeder. I can grow more tonnage of deer food cheaper than corn.
There IS a difference!!
Give me food plots and I aint' talkin' ryegrass, either!!! "Oh, my food plots look so greeenn!!!" says a hunter. They're ryegrass, sir!! Anyway...
I don't plant ryegrass. Most people plant in the fall to "hunt" over... I'd like to think I do both. I feed my deer herd with quality food plots and I hunt over my food plots too.
Not real big into corn.
Yer neighbor is gonna have all "your" deer, but they'll be nocturnal, so it won't matter.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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