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Hogs Over Bait
#2772839
03/28/19 07:06 PM
03/28/19 07:06 PM
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DIXIE
Emile
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4 point
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OP
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Posts: 306
DIXIE
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Is it legal to hunt hogs over bait?
NEVER STOP LEARNING!!!
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Re: Hogs Over Bait
[Re: Emile]
#2772852
03/28/19 07:21 PM
03/28/19 07:21 PM
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Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 306
DIXIE
Emile
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OP
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DIXIE
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Where do you get a permit?
NEVER STOP LEARNING!!!
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Re: Hogs Over Bait
[Re: Emile]
#2773004
03/28/19 10:50 PM
03/28/19 10:50 PM
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Joined: May 2002
Posts: 8,030
Central Alabama
muzziehead
14 point
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14 point
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Posts: 8,030
Central Alabama
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I was referred to the office in either Andalusia or Enterprise. It was simple to process the application, never left my office chair.
"Don't cling to Mistake, just because you spent a lot of time making it."
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Re: Hogs Over Bait
[Re: muzziehead]
#2773011
03/28/19 11:07 PM
03/28/19 11:07 PM
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Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 52,167
Gee's Bend/At The Hog Pen
James
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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I was referred to the office in either Andalusia or Enterprise. It was simple to process the application, never left my office chair. Landowner has to sign off to correct?
How many people am i willing to sacrifice for freedom?
Everyone. All of them...
Do not regret growing older, it's a privilege denied to many!
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Re: Hogs Over Bait
[Re: timbercruiser]
#2773141
03/29/19 08:18 AM
03/29/19 08:18 AM
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Gee's Bend/At The Hog Pen
James
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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If the landowner has to sign off, on timber company leases who would sign off? A lot of timber company leases are handled by leasing companies and I don't know if they could sign off, if you could find a real person to talk to. I always thought u had to have land owner permission also. Maybe they don't have to actually sign nothing i dunno
How many people am i willing to sacrifice for freedom?
Everyone. All of them...
Do not regret growing older, it's a privilege denied to many!
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Re: Hogs Over Bait
[Re: Emile]
#2775488
04/01/19 06:26 PM
04/01/19 06:26 PM
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Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 221
Auburn
red neck richie
4 point
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4 point
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Posts: 221
Auburn
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If they dont change the law theres gonna be more hogs than you know what to do with. It will affect all other hunting. Not to mention the destruction to the land. They are an invasive species not a game animal and should be classified as such. A lot of states let you hunt them 24/7 365 any way you want . To get rid of as many as possible. Sows can have 2 litters a year with 10 to 15 piglets at a time. Not only do they compete with deer for food but they also eat turkey eggs. A lot of them get trap smart and the only way to kill them is over bait. My .02.
Old enough to know better but still too young too care!
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Re: Hogs Over Bait
[Re: red neck richie]
#2775495
04/01/19 06:47 PM
04/01/19 06:47 PM
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Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 1,904
Millry, AL
BayedUp
Buttercup
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Buttercup
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 1,904
Millry, AL
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If they dont change the law theres gonna be more hogs than you know what to do with. It will affect all other hunting. Not to mention the destruction to the land. They are an invasive species not a game animal and should be classified as such. A lot of states let you hunt them 24/7 365 any way you want . To get rid of as many as possible. Sows can have 2 litters a year with 10 to 15 piglets at a time. Not only do they compete with deer for food but they also eat turkey eggs. A lot of them get trap smart and the only way to kill them is over bait. My .02. Shooting them over bait will not reduce the numbers enough to make a difference. The only true way to control hog numbers is to dog hunt / trap / and shoot the occasional ones you see. It takes all three to be efficient. The most recent studies done by Texas A&M shows that the reproduction rate of wild hogs are highly exaggerated by the media and companies that are marketing products for wild hogs. The average litter size is 5-6 pigs per litter, most sows have one litter per year but are bred back before the end of that year, and most sows don’t have their first litter until they are slightly over a year of age. I’m sure in a perfect environment with all the stars aligned it is possible to achieve the high numbers that get spread around but from my experience of spending most every off day I have in the hog filled swamps of south Alabama. You don’t see those types of numbers very often. I have seen very few sows with more than 8 pigs with her.
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Re: Hogs Over Bait
[Re: BayedUp]
#2775506
04/01/19 07:12 PM
04/01/19 07:12 PM
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Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 221
Auburn
red neck richie
4 point
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4 point
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 221
Auburn
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If they dont change the law theres gonna be more hogs than you know what to do with. It will affect all other hunting. Not to mention the destruction to the land. They are an invasive species not a game animal and should be classified as such. A lot of states let you hunt them 24/7 365 any way you want . To get rid of as many as possible. Sows can have 2 litters a year with 10 to 15 piglets at a time. Not only do they compete with deer for food but they also eat turkey eggs. A lot of them get trap smart and the only way to kill them is over bait. My .02. Shooting them over bait will not reduce the numbers enough to make a difference. The only true way to control hog numbers is to dog hunt / trap / and shoot the occasional ones you see. It takes all three to be efficient. The most recent studies done by Texas A&M shows that the reproduction rate of wild hogs are highly exaggerated by the media and companies that are marketing products for wild hogs. The average litter size is 5-6 pigs per litter, most sows have one litter per year but are bred back before the end of that year, and most sows don’t have their first litter until they are slightly over a year of age. I’m sure in a perfect environment with all the stars aligned it is possible to achieve the high numbers that get spread around but from my experience of spending most every off day I have in the hog filled swamps of south Alabama. You don’t see those types of numbers very often. I have seen very few sows with more than 8 pigs with her. Very few have hog dogs or can afford or will invest in traps. Plus many older hogs get trap smart. So you are basically saying that shooting the occasional hog you see will keep their numbers down?
Last edited by red neck richie; 04/01/19 07:31 PM.
Old enough to know better but still too young too care!
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Re: Hogs Over Bait
[Re: Emile]
#2775668
04/01/19 10:08 PM
04/01/19 10:08 PM
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Joined: May 2002
Posts: 8,030
Central Alabama
muzziehead
14 point
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14 point
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Central Alabama
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Land owner does not have to sign off on it. But you do have to show a copy of your lease.
"Don't cling to Mistake, just because you spent a lot of time making it."
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Re: Hogs Over Bait
[Re: red neck richie]
#2775773
04/02/19 07:50 AM
04/02/19 07:50 AM
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Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 1,904
Millry, AL
BayedUp
Buttercup
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Buttercup
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 1,904
Millry, AL
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If they dont change the law theres gonna be more hogs than you know what to do with. It will affect all other hunting. Not to mention the destruction to the land. They are an invasive species not a game animal and should be classified as such. A lot of states let you hunt them 24/7 365 any way you want . To get rid of as many as possible. Sows can have 2 litters a year with 10 to 15 piglets at a time. Not only do they compete with deer for food but they also eat turkey eggs. A lot of them get trap smart and the only way to kill them is over bait. My .02. Shooting them over bait will not reduce the numbers enough to make a difference. The only true way to control hog numbers is to dog hunt / trap / and shoot the occasional ones you see. It takes all three to be efficient. The most recent studies done by Texas A&M shows that the reproduction rate of wild hogs are highly exaggerated by the media and companies that are marketing products for wild hogs. The average litter size is 5-6 pigs per litter, most sows have one litter per year but are bred back before the end of that year, and most sows don’t have their first litter until they are slightly over a year of age. I’m sure in a perfect environment with all the stars aligned it is possible to achieve the high numbers that get spread around but from my experience of spending most every off day I have in the hog filled swamps of south Alabama. You don’t see those types of numbers very often. I have seen very few sows with more than 8 pigs with her. Very few have hog dogs or can afford or will invest in traps. Plus many older hogs get trap smart. So you are basically saying that shooting the occasional hog you see will keep their numbers down? No shooting the occasional hog when deer hunting or over bait won’t keep the numbers down. To keep numbers in check you have to stay on them 12 months out of the year. And I have never meet a person that owns/owned true hog dogs that would turn down a invite to hunt a property that has a huntable population of hogs. If you have a “Hog Problem” and don’t want to invest in traps or let someone with dogs hunt their property then they don’t really have a problem.
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Re: Hogs Over Bait
[Re: Emile]
#2777041
04/03/19 09:21 PM
04/03/19 09:21 PM
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Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 139
Ft Rucker,AL
boy47
3 point
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3 point
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 139
Ft Rucker,AL
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Where does it say you can’t hunt hogs over bait outside of deer season? I have looked in the regs and don’t see where it says anything about not being able to hunt them over bait when it’s not deer or turkey season.
Mike Boyd
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Re: Hogs Over Bait
[Re: boy47]
#2777443
04/04/19 01:01 PM
04/04/19 01:01 PM
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Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 52,167
Gee's Bend/At The Hog Pen
James
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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Where does it say you can’t hunt hogs over bait outside of deer season? I have looked in the regs and don’t see where it says anything about not being able to hunt them over bait when it’s not deer or turkey season. Porkers are considered game animals in BAMA
How many people am i willing to sacrifice for freedom?
Everyone. All of them...
Do not regret growing older, it's a privilege denied to many!
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Re: Hogs Over Bait
[Re: muzziehead]
#2777444
04/04/19 01:01 PM
04/04/19 01:01 PM
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Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 52,167
Gee's Bend/At The Hog Pen
James
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Jun 2013
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Gee's Bend/At The Hog Pen
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Land owner does not have to sign off on it. But you do have to show a copy of your lease. Cool. Good to know!
How many people am i willing to sacrifice for freedom?
Everyone. All of them...
Do not regret growing older, it's a privilege denied to many!
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Re: Hogs Over Bait
[Re: BayedUp]
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04/04/19 01:33 PM
04/04/19 01:33 PM
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Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 51,948
Round ‘bout there
Clem
Mildly Quirky
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Mildly Quirky
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 51,948
Round ‘bout there
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If you have a “Hog Problem” and don’t want to invest in traps or let someone with dogs hunt their property then they don’t really have a problem. Or just want to complain yet not take all effective means to remedy the situation. Just like landowners with a "harvest" quota on does, but they won't let anyone hunt and "hate seeing Mama Deer getting killed." Or landowners with coyote problems but they won't contact trappers or hunters for different reasons.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Hogs Over Bait
[Re: Emile]
#2785483
04/14/19 07:17 PM
04/14/19 07:17 PM
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Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 11,347
Prattville AL
ElkHunter
Booner
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Booner
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 11,347
Prattville AL
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My experience shows that the average litter size is about 6. I was talking to a doctoral student at Auburn last summer. They confirmed my number. I was surprised. A lot of the "old" research is being debunked.
Alabama Hog Control, Inc. www.alabamahogcontrol.comBarry Estes The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke
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Re: Hogs Over Bait
[Re: boy47]
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04/14/19 08:38 PM
04/14/19 08:38 PM
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Posts: 2,424
Dale County, AL
Groundhawg
10 point
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10 point
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 2,424
Dale County, AL
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Where does it say you can’t hunt hogs over bait outside of deer season? I have looked in the regs and don’t see where it says anything about not being able to hunt them over bait when it’s not deer or turkey season. Check the current 2018-2019 Alabama hunting & fishing regs and you will find it on page 25.
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