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Patterning deer
#2758870
03/11/19 03:30 PM
03/11/19 03:30 PM
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NSDQ160
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This is the new trendy phrase it seems.... to pattern your deer but who here with any type of certainty can say they’ve patterned a buck? Does definitely seem to be creatures of habit but a buck just makes less sense the more I learn. In fact after all my experience to this point I believe the best way to kill a mature buck isn’t some special tracking skill, or food plot, or cover technique etc. it’s just having good land and time in the woods.
Guys can’t rant and rave about how good they are at hunting this and that but the folks that consistently kill big bucks have good land and get to spend more time in the woods than others.
Last edited by NSDQ160; 03/11/19 03:31 PM.
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Re: Patterning deer
[Re: NSDQ160]
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03/11/19 04:02 PM
03/11/19 04:02 PM
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JohnnyLoco
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Eat, Bedup, Mate. After about 3 1/2 years they transition to moving with the wind at their butt and mating with mature does in cover.
Last edited by JohnnyLoco; 03/11/19 04:03 PM.
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Re: Patterning deer
[Re: NSDQ160]
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03/11/19 04:36 PM
03/11/19 04:36 PM
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hosscat
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To say you have one patterned is potentially possible, but not completely.
My take is that most wild animals are somewhat creatures of habit (they frequently feed/travel certain areas). I believe that these animals basically have a somewhat predictable travel pattern assuming nothing interferes (unknown variables). Unknown variables could be changes in weather, changes in a food source, terrain changes (flooding), a coyote or some other predator spooks them, or we as hunters spook them. I think that a once in a while interference does not affect the animals predictable pattern, but if an interference takes place too often or becomes predictable then the animal may alter their pattern accordingly. Once this happens and happens enough it could become have a generational affect. I have hunted places where every deer seemed to be nocturnal, as a result the hunters then moved closer and closer to bedding areas, resulting in even more nocturnal behavior.
This is why it's absolutely imperative to be aware of the wind and limit pressure as much as possible. I have a theory that a rain is kind of like a reset button, if I spook turkeys or deer I try to stay away from that area until after a rain.
Back to patterning deer; most years I will have a few different bucks that will frequent certain fields or stands "most" days of the week. This primarily happens during the first several weeks of the season, once pre-rut kicks in all bets are off. During this time I have to pick my wind carefully and normally if I can hunt the same stand 2-3 "prime" times in a given week I will have an opportunity to at least see the buck I was expecting.
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Re: Patterning deer
[Re: NSDQ160]
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03/11/19 04:46 PM
03/11/19 04:46 PM
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JohnnyLoco
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Everything one needs to know to pattern a deer is already covered, especially the one about being in the woods and the other about being at work.
You won’t take that deer if you ain’t in da woods
Last edited by JohnnyLoco; 03/11/19 04:48 PM.
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Re: Patterning deer
[Re: Fishboy]
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03/11/19 05:13 PM
03/11/19 05:13 PM
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lances
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I’ve got mine patterned, The bucks on our property move at night. Except for January 17th they were all on their feet that day and I was at work. Lmao. I know the feeling
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Re: Patterning deer
[Re: NSDQ160]
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03/11/19 08:15 PM
03/11/19 08:15 PM
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2Dogs
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This is the new trendy phrase it seems.... to pattern your deer but who here with any type of certainty can say they’ve patterned a buck? Does definitely seem to be creatures of habit but a buck just makes less sense the more I learn. In fact after all my experience to this point I believe the best way to kill a mature buck isn’t some special tracking skill, or food plot, or cover technique etc. it’s just having good land and time in the woods.
Guys can’t rant and rave about how good they are at hunting this and that but the folks that consistently kill big bucks have good land and get to spend more time in the woods than others. If you are saying average Joe, ain't ever killed a big un, can go to prime property and kill them as good as a season mature buck killer just because there's a good number of big uns there YOU ARE WRONG. I'm not saying average Joe won't ever get lucky and kill one every now and then , but the seasoned woodsman will be much more consistent. I've seen many properties that have a good buck population and it's always the same couple guys that kill more big bucks than the others. It is absolutely possible to pattern a buck . These new fangled game cams can make it a fairly easy task IMO.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Patterning deer
[Re: 2Dogs]
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03/11/19 09:18 PM
03/11/19 09:18 PM
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hunterbuck
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It is absolutely possible to pattern a buck .
Agree. But, the later in the season it gets, the harder it gets. Best chance at killing a buck in a "pattern" is during bow season, before thousands of folks hit the woods and guns start going off. Feeding is their main goal, and you can pattern bachelor groups of bucks between bedding and feeding areas. Pressure is the key...like always.
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Have you tried Google?
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Re: Patterning deer
[Re: hunterbuck]
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03/12/19 07:16 AM
03/12/19 07:16 AM
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It is absolutely possible to pattern a buck .
Agree. But, the later in the season it gets, the harder it gets. Best chance at killing a buck in a "pattern" is during bow season, before thousands of folks hit the woods and guns start going off. Feeding is their main goal, and you can pattern bachelor groups of bucks between bedding and feeding areas. Pressure is the key...like always. truth
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Re: Patterning deer
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03/12/19 10:16 AM
03/12/19 10:16 AM
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This is the new trendy phrase it seems.... to pattern your deer but who here with any type of certainty can say they’ve patterned a buck? Does definitely seem to be creatures of habit but a buck just makes less sense the more I learn. In fact after all my experience to this point I believe the best way to kill a mature buck isn’t some special tracking skill, or food plot, or cover technique etc. it’s just having good land and time in the woods.
Guys can’t rant and rave about how good they are at hunting this and that but the folks that consistently kill big bucks have good land and get to spend more time in the woods than others. I agree with you. I know there are exceptions, but by and large I've never seen bucks do the same thing. When I hear someone talking about "patterning" a buck, what I picture is they have him predictably visible at a precise point at the exact same time every day for days and days in a row. "He walks out on the bottom right corner of X food plot at 4:00 every day this week" Shish, I hardly ever get the same buck on the same camera twice in one week, and even then it was at different times and coming from different directions, then he disappears for two weeks, then he's on camera once at night a mile across the club, then gone a week, then on another camera in a different place, then finally dead on someone else's Facebook the next week, killed 3 miles from my land. I don't even think my bucks live on my land two days in a row, much less show up in the same place twice.
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Re: Patterning deer
[Re: Fishboy]
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03/12/19 11:35 AM
03/12/19 11:35 AM
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I’ve got mine patterned, The bucks on our property move at night. Except for January 17th they were all on their feet that day and I was at work. I can understand this fully!! haha
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Re: Patterning deer
[Re: ikillbux]
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03/12/19 11:40 AM
03/12/19 11:40 AM
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This is the new trendy phrase it seems.... to pattern your deer but who here with any type of certainty can say they’ve patterned a buck? Does definitely seem to be creatures of habit but a buck just makes less sense the more I learn. In fact after all my experience to this point I believe the best way to kill a mature buck isn’t some special tracking skill, or food plot, or cover technique etc. it’s just having good land and time in the woods.
Guys can’t rant and rave about how good they are at hunting this and that but the folks that consistently kill big bucks have good land and get to spend more time in the woods than others. I agree with you. I know there are exceptions, but by and large I've never seen bucks do the same thing. When I hear someone talking about "patterning" a buck, what I picture is they have him predictably visible at a precise point at the exact same time every day for days and days in a row. "He walks out on the bottom right corner of X food plot at 4:00 every day this week" Shish, I hardly ever get the same buck on the same camera twice in one week, and even then it was at different times and coming from different directions, then he disappears for two weeks, then he's on camera once at night a mile across the club, then gone a week, then on another camera in a different place, then finally dead on someone else's Facebook the next week, killed 3 miles from my land. I don't even think my bucks live on my land two days in a row, much less show up in the same place twice. You nailed it!! That's exactly what I'm talking about and what I've gone through season after season. I've had no issue getting bucks on camera while in velvet at the same place.... almost the same times but once the velvet comes off it's an absolute crap shoot.
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Re: Patterning deer
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03/12/19 01:39 PM
03/12/19 01:39 PM
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WmHunter
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I think people need to make a distinction between "patterning" a 1 or 2 year old buck and the occasional 3 year old on one hand, and 4, 5 or 6 year old bucks on the other.
At 4 they basically aren't patternable as they are 99% nocturnal - even during the rut.
I know a wise ole sagey man down in Ramer who had a saying about these fully mature bucks:
"They will pattern YOU before you pattern them."
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Re: Patterning deer
[Re: WmHunter]
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03/12/19 06:10 PM
03/12/19 06:10 PM
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ronfromramer
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I think people need to make a distinction between "patterning" a 1 or 2 year old buck and the occasional 3 year old on one hand, and 4, 5 or 6 year old bucks on the other.
At 4 they basically aren't patternable as they are 99% nocturnal - even during the rut.
I know a wise ole sagey man down in Ramer who had a saying about these fully mature bucks:
"They will pattern YOU before you pattern them." A mature bucks pattern is that he doesn't have a pattern after the velvet comes off. I'd guess that 70% of the mature bucks I've seen, the first time I saw them was the only time saw them
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Re: Patterning deer
[Re: WmHunter]
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03/12/19 07:00 PM
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2Dogs
Freak of Nature
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I think people need to make a distinction between "patterning" a 1 or 2 year old buck and the occasional 3 year old on one hand, and 4, 5 or 6 year old bucks on the other.
At 4 they basically aren't patternable as they are 99% nocturnal - even during the rut.
I know a wise ole sagey man down in Ramer who had a saying about these fully mature bucks:
"They will pattern YOU before you pattern them." I've been mighty lucky finding them during that 1% they're traveling during daylight.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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