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Patterning deer #2758870
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This is the new trendy phrase it seems.... to pattern your deer but who here with any type of certainty can say they’ve patterned a buck? Does definitely seem to be creatures of habit but a buck just makes less sense the more I learn. In fact after all my experience to this point I believe the best way to kill a mature buck isn’t some special tracking skill, or food plot, or cover technique etc. it’s just having good land and time in the woods.

Guys can’t rant and rave about how good they are at hunting this and that but the folks that consistently kill big bucks have good land and get to spend more time in the woods than others.

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Re: Patterning deer [Re: NSDQ160] #2758875
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You certainly can put yourself in places that greatly increase your odds on any piece of property. That goes for “patterning” a certain buck, or just finding a good spot where several different bucks frequent. But nothing beats having the time to put in and wait one out. If you have good woodsmanship and a decent amount of time, there’s not an animal out there that stands a chance.


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Re: Patterning deer [Re: NSDQ160] #2758888
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Eat, Bedup, Mate. After about 3 1/2 years they transition to moving with the wind at their butt and mating with mature does in cover.

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Re: Patterning deer [Re: NSDQ160] #2758892
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I’ve got mine patterned, The bucks on our property move at night. Except for January 17th they were all on their feet that day and I was at work.

Re: Patterning deer [Re: NSDQ160] #2758906
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To say you have one patterned is potentially possible, but not completely.

My take is that most wild animals are somewhat creatures of habit (they frequently feed/travel certain areas). I believe that these animals basically have a somewhat predictable travel pattern assuming nothing interferes (unknown variables). Unknown variables could be changes in weather, changes in a food source, terrain changes (flooding), a coyote or some other predator spooks them, or we as hunters spook them. I think that a once in a while interference does not affect the animals predictable pattern, but if an interference takes place too often or becomes predictable then the animal may alter their pattern accordingly. Once this happens and happens enough it could become have a generational affect. I have hunted places where every deer seemed to be nocturnal, as a result the hunters then moved closer and closer to bedding areas, resulting in even more nocturnal behavior.

This is why it's absolutely imperative to be aware of the wind and limit pressure as much as possible. I have a theory that a rain is kind of like a reset button, if I spook turkeys or deer I try to stay away from that area until after a rain.

Back to patterning deer; most years I will have a few different bucks that will frequent certain fields or stands "most" days of the week. This primarily happens during the first several weeks of the season, once pre-rut kicks in all bets are off. During this time I have to pick my wind carefully and normally if I can hunt the same stand 2-3 "prime" times in a given week I will have an opportunity to at least see the buck I was expecting.

Re: Patterning deer [Re: NSDQ160] #2758911
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Everything one needs to know to pattern a deer is already covered, especially the one about being in the woods and the other about being at work.

You won’t take that deer if you ain’t in da woods

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Re: Patterning deer [Re: Fishboy] #2758932
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Originally Posted by Fishboy
I’ve got mine patterned, The bucks on our property move at night. Except for January 17th they were all on their feet that day and I was at work.


Lmao. I know the feeling

Re: Patterning deer [Re: NSDQ160] #2759068
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some one on here said, if you find the the Doe's then sooner or later the Bucks should show up. No Does no Bucks ??? could that be a pattern of sorts.

Re: Patterning deer [Re: NSDQ160] #2759087
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Originally Posted by NSDQ160
This is the new trendy phrase it seems.... to pattern your deer but who here with any type of certainty can say they’ve patterned a buck? Does definitely seem to be creatures of habit but a buck just makes less sense the more I learn. In fact after all my experience to this point I believe the best way to kill a mature buck isn’t some special tracking skill, or food plot, or cover technique etc. it’s just having good land and time in the woods.

Guys can’t rant and rave about how good they are at hunting this and that but the folks that consistently kill big bucks have good land and get to spend more time in the woods than others.


If you are saying average Joe, ain't ever killed a big un, can go to prime property and kill them as good as a season mature buck killer just because there's a good number of big uns there YOU ARE WRONG. I'm not saying average Joe won't ever get lucky and kill one every now and then , but the seasoned woodsman will be much more consistent. I've seen many properties that have a good buck population and it's always the same couple guys that kill more big bucks than the others.

It is absolutely possible to pattern a buck . These new fangled game cams can make it a fairly easy task IMO.



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Re: Patterning deer [Re: 2Dogs] #2759177
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Originally Posted by 2Dogs


It is absolutely possible to pattern a buck .


Agree. But, the later in the season it gets, the harder it gets.

Best chance at killing a buck in a "pattern" is during bow season, before thousands of folks hit the woods and guns start going off. Feeding is their main goal, and you can pattern bachelor groups of bucks between bedding and feeding areas. Pressure is the key...like always.


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Re: Patterning deer [Re: NSDQ160] #2759308
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Old bucks seem to be fairly easy to pattern with enough trail cams. They seem to do the same thing daily and the ones I have patterned have tiny areas they live in. Their routine can get them killed once you have enough info about that routine.

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Originally Posted by hunterbuck
Originally Posted by 2Dogs


It is absolutely possible to pattern a buck .


Agree. But, the later in the season it gets, the harder it gets.

Best chance at killing a buck in a "pattern" is during bow season, before thousands of folks hit the woods and guns start going off. Feeding is their main goal, and you can pattern bachelor groups of bucks between bedding and feeding areas. Pressure is the key...like always.

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Re: Patterning deer [Re: NSDQ160] #2759476
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Originally Posted by NSDQ160
This is the new trendy phrase it seems.... to pattern your deer but who here with any type of certainty can say they’ve patterned a buck? Does definitely seem to be creatures of habit but a buck just makes less sense the more I learn. In fact after all my experience to this point I believe the best way to kill a mature buck isn’t some special tracking skill, or food plot, or cover technique etc. it’s just having good land and time in the woods.

Guys can’t rant and rave about how good they are at hunting this and that but the folks that consistently kill big bucks have good land and get to spend more time in the woods than others.


I agree with you. I know there are exceptions, but by and large I've never seen bucks do the same thing. When I hear someone talking about "patterning" a buck, what I picture is they have him predictably visible at a precise point at the exact same time every day for days and days in a row. "He walks out on the bottom right corner of X food plot at 4:00 every day this week" Shish, I hardly ever get the same buck on the same camera twice in one week, and even then it was at different times and coming from different directions, then he disappears for two weeks, then he's on camera once at night a mile across the club, then gone a week, then on another camera in a different place, then finally dead on someone else's Facebook the next week, killed 3 miles from my land. I don't even think my bucks live on my land two days in a row, much less show up in the same place twice.


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Re: Patterning deer [Re: Fishboy] #2759549
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Originally Posted by Fishboy
I’ve got mine patterned, The bucks on our property move at night. Except for January 17th they were all on their feet that day and I was at work.


I can understand this fully!! haha

Re: Patterning deer [Re: ikillbux] #2759555
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Originally Posted by ikillbux
Originally Posted by NSDQ160
This is the new trendy phrase it seems.... to pattern your deer but who here with any type of certainty can say they’ve patterned a buck? Does definitely seem to be creatures of habit but a buck just makes less sense the more I learn. In fact after all my experience to this point I believe the best way to kill a mature buck isn’t some special tracking skill, or food plot, or cover technique etc. it’s just having good land and time in the woods.

Guys can’t rant and rave about how good they are at hunting this and that but the folks that consistently kill big bucks have good land and get to spend more time in the woods than others.


I agree with you. I know there are exceptions, but by and large I've never seen bucks do the same thing. When I hear someone talking about "patterning" a buck, what I picture is they have him predictably visible at a precise point at the exact same time every day for days and days in a row. "He walks out on the bottom right corner of X food plot at 4:00 every day this week" Shish, I hardly ever get the same buck on the same camera twice in one week, and even then it was at different times and coming from different directions, then he disappears for two weeks, then he's on camera once at night a mile across the club, then gone a week, then on another camera in a different place, then finally dead on someone else's Facebook the next week, killed 3 miles from my land. I don't even think my bucks live on my land two days in a row, much less show up in the same place twice.



You nailed it!! That's exactly what I'm talking about and what I've gone through season after season. I've had no issue getting bucks on camera while in velvet at the same place.... almost the same times but once the velvet comes off it's an absolute crap shoot.

Re: Patterning deer [Re: NSDQ160] #2759694
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I have definitely seen bucks that enter certain fields at certain times. Problem is those aren't the ones that usually live too long. Had a 150-160 class buck that was like clockwork on my parents place. Well 2 out of 3 days he was within about 100 yards of the corner of the bean field. Problem is unless you live on a property and are there every day it is tough to figure out. Cameras only offer a small sample of the deers movement.

Re: Patterning deer [Re: NSDQ160] #2759705
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I think people need to make a distinction between "patterning" a 1 or 2 year old buck and the
occasional 3 year old on one hand, and 4, 5 or 6 year old bucks on the other.

At 4 they basically aren't patternable as they are 99% nocturnal - even during the rut.

I know a wise ole sagey man down in Ramer who had a saying about these fully mature bucks:

"They will pattern YOU before you pattern them."


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Originally Posted by WmHunter
I think people need to make a distinction between "patterning" a 1 or 2 year old buck and the
occasional 3 year old on one hand, and 4, 5 or 6 year old bucks on the other.

At 4 they basically aren't patternable as they are 99% nocturnal - even during the rut.

I know a wise ole sagey man down in Ramer who had a saying about these fully mature bucks:

"They will pattern YOU before you pattern them."


A mature bucks pattern is that he doesn't have a pattern after the velvet comes off. I'd guess that 70% of the mature bucks I've seen, the first time I saw them was the only time saw them

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Originally Posted by WmHunter
I think people need to make a distinction between "patterning" a 1 or 2 year old buck and the
occasional 3 year old on one hand, and 4, 5 or 6 year old bucks on the other.

At 4 they basically aren't patternable as they are 99% nocturnal - even during the rut.

I know a wise ole sagey man down in Ramer who had a saying about these fully mature bucks:

"They will pattern YOU before you pattern them."



I've been mighty lucky finding them during that 1% they're traveling during daylight.



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Re: Patterning deer [Re: NSDQ160] #2760071
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It is about pressure. On 20,000 acre ranches in Kansas those bucks were pretty consistent until the hunters started showing up and killing a few. Usually the smaller ones cause a 150-160 class buck looks pretty big when your used to shooting 120s or smaller. Then the big ones got real sneaky.

But seriously, I don't think bigger bucks are necessary harder to pattern
.but older ones are because of pressure.

For 4 years I set aside about 500 acres and only hunted it 1 or two days a year. The last 2 years I have started hunting it harder but still carefully. The bucks on that place seem to move much more in the daytime than some of the other land I hunt.

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