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Re: Taxing The Wealthy [Re: jwalker77] #2757585
03/09/19 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jwalker77
Originally Posted by jhardy
Originally Posted by jwalker77

So, I guess according to this, alot of us made more money than amazon last year. Sounds about right.


If you’re ignorant and don’t know how to read a financial statement you should probably avoid showing your ignorance on the Internet.

No need in name calling fellow. I just didnt read the subtitle. I was only off by a little.


Just a couple $$ grin


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Re: Taxing The Wealthy [Re: perchjerker] #2757587
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Originally Posted by perchjerker
How many decent jobs have you got from a poor person? These idiots don't realize when owners pay more it has to come from somewhere. Most of the time they cut a job from their workforce.

Thats why Cortez wants a 70% tax on Amazon and they left NY slap now everyone there is trying to get them back..i think they should pay some but if i was mayor id say come one cuz your gonna help us more here than not here..its economics 101


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Re: Taxing The Wealthy [Re: IDOT] #2757588
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I think the bottom 50% pay something like 4% of income tax.

Re: Taxing The Wealthy [Re: IDOT] #2757596
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Re: Taxing The Wealthy [Re: MarksOutdoors] #2757607
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Everybody wants somebody else to pay for their free ride. I say do away with all income and property taxes. Just have a sales tax only. That way Julio and sharquetta pays something into the system as well as everyone else


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Re: Taxing The Wealthy [Re: IDOT] #2757620
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Mark thats not right. The free stuff doesn't go to the guy that dropped the soap, he gets something less enjoyable when he bends over. Then somebody else scoops up the free stuff.


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Re: Taxing The Wealthy [Re: IDOT] #2757637
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IDOT you missed this one. The rich because of crooked politicians pay less not more. They play with different rules.

Im dirt poor but I have plenty of friends that have done quite well. One buddy of mine worked for another buddy of mine. One buddy made about $200,000 the other buddy made somewhere between 4-5 million. My buddy who made the $200,000 paid more in taxes then my buddy who made the 5 million. Its not even the same world that most of us live in.. such as nonrecourse loans; you and I go bankrupt and have our credit ruined. Rich folks walk away with NO RECOURSE or negative effect all while getting a tax deduction.

Yes they should be taxed more . Period !!! Our country will be ruined as more "billionaires" buy elections (for example bloomberg). We the people will be but a distant memory. Lets dont forget that alot of rich folks run for office just to loan their campaign money so they can guarantee 18% return (see Athur Davis).

Re: Taxing The Wealthy [Re: IDOT] #2757653
03/09/19 09:13 PM
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I know income inequality is worse now than it has been since the days of Rockafeller, and JP Morgan. The top 1% has something like 40-50 % of the country's wealth. I don't know what the fix is but if this continues there will be no middle class. Just poor peoold and rich people. This is not good for the country as a whole.

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Re: Taxing The Wealthy [Re: IDOT] #2757664
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No one is calling anyone any names. If you are ignorant to the tax code and financials and mouth of a bunch of liberal talking points own it. It’s okay to be ignorant. I know a lot of people that are.

Re: Taxing The Wealthy [Re: mike35549] #2757668
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Originally Posted by mike35549
I know income inequality is worse now than it has been since the days of Rockafeller, and JP Morgan. The top 1% has something like 40-50 % of the country's wealth. I don't know what the fix is but if this continues there will be no middle class. Just poor peoold and rich people. This is not good for the country as a whole.



https://wallethacks.com/average-median-income-in-america/

Look at that link. It's pretty eye opening


Originally Posted by Patricia Heaton
If you’re a common sense person, you probably don’t feel you have a home in this world right now. If you’re a Christian, you know you were never meant to.


Re: Taxing The Wealthy [Re: IDOT] #2757676
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Originally Posted by IDOT
Originally Posted by mike35549
I know income inequality is worse now than it has been since the days of Rockafeller, and JP Morgan. The top 1% has something like 40-50 % of the country's wealth. I don't know what the fix is but if this continues there will be no middle class. Just poor peoold and rich people. This is not good for the country as a whole.



https://wallethacks.com/average-median-income-in-america/

Look at that link. It's pretty eye opening


I have no clue how people afford to have kids, kids in activities, take vacations, save for college and live a life making less than $80K.
Oh ya, most don't save for college and they have tons of debt.

Re: Taxing The Wealthy [Re: jhardy] #2757678
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Originally Posted by jhardy
No one is calling anyone any names. If you are ignorant to the tax code and financials and mouth of a bunch of liberal talking points own it. It’s okay to be ignorant. I know a lot of people that are.

Well its good to meet you jhardy, now I know one more person who knows everything, or are you one of those people who is ignorant about something? I guess we all are. I know as little about the tax code as you probably do about climbing trees. But I can read a chart as well as the next ignorant shmuck. I spent a little time in college too, just decided to not sit behind a desk.

Re: Taxing The Wealthy [Re: IDOT] #2757679
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Obama said that if you made 60000 you were. The rich

Re: Taxing The Wealthy [Re: IDOT] #2757682
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Originally Posted by IDOT
Originally Posted by mike35549
I know income inequality is worse now than it has been since the days of Rockafeller, and JP Morgan. The top 1% has something like 40-50 % of the country's wealth. I don't know what the fix is but if this continues there will be no middle class. Just poor peoold and rich people. This is not good for the country as a whole.



https://wallethacks.com/average-median-income-in-america/

Look at that link. It's pretty eye opening


That sounds about right. Those figures also don't include capital gains which is how most business owners make the bulk of there money. That doesn't change the fact that the top 1% have more of the country's wealth now than they have at any point since probably before WWII.

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Re: Taxing The Wealthy [Re: IDOT] #2757695
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I’ve tried pretty hard to keep up with every tax I paid on anything for 2018. After getting the total bill back from the accountant and adding that to what I’ve paid in other taxes I’m very honestly at just over 63% of my gross household income for 2018 ant that doesn’t include sales tax on every time I walk out of a store.

The check that ill write to the feds alone in April based on the adjusted household income is 37.2 % of our true gross household income because of how our companies gross revenue not profit affects our personal taxes.

People that don’t own a business have no idea at the taxes that are out there. Just like all this gas tax talk, I have to pay a new state tax just because our trucks occasionally cross state lines. It’s calculated on each truck that MAY at some point be in another state.

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Re: Taxing The Wealthy [Re: IDOT] #2757697
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Yeah, then you gotta know what police jurisdictions are to know what tax to pay or exempt.

Re: Taxing The Wealthy [Re: IDOT] #2757704
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Re: Taxing The Wealthy [Re: wew3006] #2757714
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sales tax is a pass through; they collect it and they remit it; has nothing to do with profitability[/quote]

Not always completely true. It affects gross revenue and gross revenue in many cases affects owners/shareholders personally

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To many people think just because they do the bare minimum they deserve the same reward as the folks who TRULY bust their ass every day and risk everything they own on a chanc to do better just to give over half of the reward they earned to a piece of shucks sitting on the porch waiting on a check.

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ODO - I'm not gonna quote that long post BUT well said. thumbup

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