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Giving up trail cameras #2757221
03/09/19 09:48 AM
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Has anyone completely given up cams and seen a meaningful improvement in hunting quality as a result? I don’t have much land to work with so obviously less pressure the better. I’m already dealing with dogs running around. rolleyes By improved hunting quality I mean more daylight sightings, mature buck kills, etc.

Re: Giving up trail cameras [Re: Joe4majors] #2757232
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I don't see cameras being used as "a meaningful improvement in hunting quality." I just like them to see what critters are out there. I've been running them for over 10 years and some of the pics I've gotten are incredible. Some folks do a "hit list" or hunt a particular buck and that's great. My experience is that unless you have your own place to yourself, the nice deer you have on camera will be killed by someone else in the club that never knew the buck was even there. I've never killed a nice buck I have on camera but my neighbor has. slap

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Re: Giving up trail cameras [Re: Joe4majors] #2757237
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I run them year round, but don't check them often once every month or two. I don't run them over feed mostly on licks or trails or well used fields. I don't check them often enough to pattern anything but, just like knowing what's around and enjoy seeing the pics.


Originally Posted By: Wiley Coyote
Well, the way I see it is there's just too many assholes
On a good day there's a bunch of assholes in here. On a bad day there's too many assholes in here.
Re: Giving up trail cameras [Re: Joe4majors] #2757250
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I start them in September and run them until the end of the season. I check them at least once a week, but usually more often than that. They have proven to be a very valuable tool for locating and patterning bucks. I haven't seen any adverse reactions to doing this over several years and numerous properties.


83% of all statistics are made up.

Re: Giving up trail cameras [Re: Joe4majors] #2757258
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I don’t check mine often enough to pattern bucks. I just like seeing pictures and then it also helps me narrow down what areas I want to hunt or focus on when I’ve got a couple really nice bucks on camera in a spot. That way I can keep pressure low while still seeing what’s around. And it’s worked for me, the past 3 bucks I’ve killed were all deer I had on camera.

Re: Giving up trail cameras [Re: Joe4majors] #2757261
03/09/19 10:42 AM
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I kept a couple of spypoints in the woods all year last year on different trails trying to find a trail the deer used on a regular basis I could set up on. What I found is that deer are ghosts, they appear out of nowhere and apparently do not use any trails to get where theyre going. They did nothing but confuse me more than I was. Now if the camera use you enjoy is putting up a feeder and keeping a camera on it and getting 50pictures every day, I like that. I get my pictures at 6:00, 10:00, and 2:00 and I cant wait to see them every time. But as far as patterning a deer using a camera, I have tried with no success.

Re: Giving up trail cameras [Re: jwalker77] #2757315
03/09/19 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jwalker77
I kept a couple of spypoints in the woods all year last year on different trails trying to find a trail the deer used on a regular basis I could set up on. What I found is that deer are ghosts, they appear out of nowhere and apparently do not use any trails to get where theyre going. They did nothing but confuse me more than I was. Now if the camera use you enjoy is putting up a feeder and keeping a camera on it and getting 50pictures every day, I like that. I get my pictures at 6:00, 10:00, and 2:00 and I cant wait to see them every time. But as far as patterning a deer using a camera, I have tried with no success.


I fully understand, no rhyme nor reason. I have learned that Luck
has as much to do with it as anything.

Re: Giving up trail cameras [Re: Joe4majors] #2757323
03/09/19 12:42 PM
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The only way I can say a camera has helped me "pattern" a buck was 2yrs ago. I killed a big buck I had figured out, with cameras, would come out in the daytime a little after the first week in january. I would get a few pics of him each year passing by a feeder. 2nd week in january I hunted as many hours as posible and made that buck my goal. I got him. As far as I know, that was the only time each year when that buck would move in the daylight. It took me three years of observation and hunting to get him.

Re: Giving up trail cameras [Re: Joe4majors] #2757361
03/09/19 01:57 PM
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I run cameras on one private property and always get pics of trophy bucks every year. Some daylight some at night. I run no cameras on my public land spots and have no idea what kind of bucks are running around there other than seeing big rubs, etc.

Have taken 3 trophy bucks off the public land and ZERO off the private land where I run cameras even though I know there are big bucks there. Anyway, that is my experience but I will not be running any cameras anywhere this year except on roads for security. Ever notice a lot of your trail cam pics have the deer looking at the camera?

Re: Giving up trail cameras [Re: Joe4majors] #2757401
03/09/19 02:56 PM
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If you checking cameras is messing up the deer you are doing it wrong. Cameras shouldn't be used to pin point a certain tree in the thick stuff to hunt. But should be placed in really easy to get to places. Preferably by cart or truck. Or under a stand and only checked when hunting that stand. If you want a camera in a hard to get to spot, get a sat cam.


I believe that this is a practical world and that I can count only on what I earn. Therefore I believe in work, hard work. -George Petrie (1945)
Re: Giving up trail cameras [Re: Joe4majors] #2757415
03/09/19 03:26 PM
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I went thru a spell that I ran several year around then quit for a few years. I ran one last fall and gonna run a couple more this next year. Interesting to see what is there but don’t like it if I find myself checking them just to be checking them. Would rather wonder and not spook the deer.

Re: Giving up trail cameras [Re: Joe4majors] #2757424
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They are fun to look at but about useless for improving hunting here. 99% of the biguns are only out at night


Two roads diverged in the woods and I took the one with deep ruts,hills and mud.It may be bumpy but WHAT A RIDE!
Re: Giving up trail cameras [Re: Joe4majors] #2757482
03/09/19 05:12 PM
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I've started to put out cameras again this year. I'm using the cheap $60 chinese specials off of Amazon. I haven't used them in years after I got a couple of them stolen off of trees, just pissed me off someone could snatch $120 away from me like that. My trespasser problem has finally cut down some, so now I've got the itch to "see whats out there" again.

The deer know exactly what's going on with those cameras. I have visited a camera I put on a plot frequently (about every four days) to make sure no piddlers were showing up and running off with the camera, and every time after I leave the deer are at the camera within about 45 minutes, noses high in the air, figuring out my scent and what the hell I am doing with this weird thing on the tree. One young buck even gave the camera a lick over from top to bottom within hours of me being there. They currently associate me with feeding them, because I drop off sweet potatoes every time I visit the camera, but it made me wonder what they would do if they didn't associate me with food, but with danger.

Best advice I have is if you do run them, don't check them often and keep them in an easy to access area like someone else said.

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Re: Giving up trail cameras [Re: Joe4majors] #2757483
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I'm glad to see I'm not the only one that just enjoys the pictures! I especially like to see the difference though in area usage after the season opens. I will get some deer fairly regular and even daylight on our club and the 3-5 days before the season the pattern just flips. This year though I had 3 shooters on camera in daylight opening day and nobody killed a deer that day.
One interesting mote this year....all mine are also on licking branches and trails also...had another member (and I keep some on video mode) that walked up and grabbed the licking branch....for almost 3 weeks every buck that came there spooked before he even got his head up in the limb...scent matters!!!

Re: Giving up trail cameras [Re: JayHook2] #2757487
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Originally Posted by JayHook2
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one that just enjoys the pictures! I especially like to see the difference though in area usage after the season opens. I will get some deer fairly regular and even daylight on our club and the 3-5 days before the season the pattern just flips. This year though I had 3 shooters on camera in daylight opening day and nobody killed a deer that day.
One interesting mote this year....all mine are also on licking branches and trails also...had another member (and I keep some on video mode) that walked up and grabbed the licking branch....for almost 3 weeks every buck that came there spooked before he even got his head up in the limb...scent matters!!!

Yep. When I am feeding sweet potatoes if I physically touch one it will go uneaten for days, while other potatoes I don't physically touch get eaten immediately. All cameras have done for me so far have reinforced how important keeping scent out of the woods is.

Re: Giving up trail cameras [Re: dirkdaddy] #2757527
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Originally Posted by dirkdaddy


The deer know exactly what's going on with those cameras. I have visited a camera I put on a plot frequently (about every four days) to make sure no piddlers were showing up and running off with the camera, and every time after I leave the deer are at the camera within about 45 minutes, noses high in the air, figuring out my scent and what the hell I am doing with this weird thing on the tree. One young buck even gave the camera a lick over from top to bottom within hours of me being there. They currently associate me with feeding them, because I drop off sweet potatoes every time I visit the camera, but it made me wonder what they would do if they didn't associate me with food, but with danger.

Best advice I have is if you do run them, don't check them often and keep them in an easy to access area like someone else said.


If this is happening, you need to put the camera higher and stop getting scent on the tree when you’re putting it up. I use the screw in mounts from Moultrie and put it 7-8 feet high on the tree and never have deer do what you’re saying here.

Re: Giving up trail cameras [Re: Joe4majors] #2757600
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I would rather kill big bucks than just get pictures of them.

Re: Giving up trail cameras [Re: Joe4majors] #2757638
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I ran a spypoint last year that helped me kill a good buck. Any of my other cameras are only checked if I am hunt the area. Some cameras were only checked once or twice last year.


Re: Giving up trail cameras [Re: bamaeyedoc] #2757680
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Originally Posted by bamaeyedoc
My experience is that unless you have your own place to yourself, the nice deer you have on camera will be killed by someone else in the club that never knew the buck was even there. I've never killed a nice buck I have on camera but my neighbor has. slap

Dr. B


I've had pretty good luck with cameras. I just went and looked and of the 11 bucks I've had mounted since I started running cameras, I had pictures of 8 of them. I've got several European mounts too and most of them were on my cameras.


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Re: Giving up trail cameras [Re: Squadron77] #2757683
03/09/19 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Squadron77
I ran a spypoint last year that helped me kill a good buck. Any of my other cameras are only checked if I am hunt the area. Some cameras were only checked once or twice last year.



Please explain how the camera helped you kill a buck, not doubting, just curious, might want to use your tactics.

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