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Re: What mount
[Re: Clark8907]
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02/22/19 08:18 AM
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I have never seen a Sumtoy mount, but a 336 base is nothing but a flat piece of steel with 2 size 8 holes for mounting it to the gun. There ain't no way on earth you could tighten it down enough to bend it with those screws. It may be that his mount is much different, but I am skeptical that you bent it. I can post a pic of a 336 if you need it. Good luck
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Re: What mount
[Re: Clark8907]
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02/22/19 08:42 AM
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If you can bend his mounts that easily, that ain't the one that you want.
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Re: What mount
[Re: Clark8907]
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02/22/19 09:14 AM
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I have both but if I'm having to have gun drilled anyway my vote is for the 336. The advan sumtoys mount allows is it adapts to predrilled holes easier because one hole is slotted. I still have a feeling he quite possibly sent you one for the Trijicon footprint instead of the burris/venom. I've had less than stellar customer service from Sumtoy also but the mount I have seems solid.
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Re: What mount
[Re: Clark8907]
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02/22/19 09:27 AM
02/22/19 09:27 AM
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Glad I got a good local Gunsmith to avoid all this mess
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!!
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Re: What mount
[Re: Clark8907]
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02/22/19 10:31 AM
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Will the 336 mount directly on the affinity or will one hole have to be drilled for it to go on gun? Yea I am a little skeptical about the sumtoy now. For the ff3 to go on it you can even hardly snug the mount up. I'm not running around all over the US with a mount I cant tighten down that iant barely snug. If anyone knows I'd the 336 base will bolt right on or what needs to be done to get it on please let me know. Was the gun factory drilled?
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Re: What mount
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02/22/19 10:59 AM
02/22/19 10:59 AM
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Dang, that looks a lot higher than the 336 Marlin base. What makes these popular?
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Re: What mount
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02/22/19 11:09 AM
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Dang, that looks a lot higher than the 336 Marlin base. What makes these popular? They are higher than 336, but will adapt to pre drilled holes because rear screw is slotted.
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Re: What mount
[Re: Clark8907]
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02/22/19 11:54 AM
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Out back
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![[Linked Image]](https://i.postimg.cc/hty565Kg/s-l400.jpg) You fellers sure do stress about shooting a turkey. It really isn't complicated.
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Re: What mount
[Re: mr.clif]
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02/22/19 11:55 AM
02/22/19 11:55 AM
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poorcountrypreacher
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Was the gun factory drilled?
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That is the question that has to be answered before anyone can help you.
Unless it was drilled to fit the 336 mount I doubt that it will fit. I don't think any shotgun comes from the factory that way
And all of them I have dealt with that were pre-drilled used size 6 screws. The Marlin 336 base uses size 8, probably because there is only 2 of them. It's not a big deal to drill and tap one; any decent gunsmith can do it. If you can't find a gunsmith, carry it to Outback.
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Re: What mount
[Re: poorcountrypreacher]
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02/22/19 12:14 PM
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I have never seen a Sumtoy mount, but a 336 base is nothing but a flat piece of steel with 2 size 8 holes for mounting it to the gun.
This is the part I don't like at all about the 336 mount (and earlier versions of Sumtoy mounts at least, not sure about the one you have), which was the primary source for my disdain in the other post. The tops of shotgun receivers are not flat other than typically say a 1/4" of width before transitioning to a rounded dropoff. The flat bottom of the 336 mount is not ideal for a proper fastener joint interface, regardless of the application. You need the base to match the contour of the top of the gun to produce a more robust joint for all potential static and vibratory loads the joints will experience over years of shooting, traveling, shock loads from falls in the woods, etc. etc. Mr. Steve might argue with me a little, just like I might argue with him a little on the theological implications of the plight of the nation of Israel throughout the Old Testament, but rest assured one of us is way more qualified on one subject versus the other.  If you do decide on the 336 mount, do however follow the sound advice of Mr. Steve (poorcountrypreacher in case you don't know his name) and consider adding epoxy to the limited contact area between your receiver and the bottom of the mount. It will add a significant amount of robustness, and corresponding long-term reliability of POI/POA, to the joint. Also be sure and add a removable thread locker liquid/gel to the threads of the fasteners.
Last edited by JUGHEAD; 02/22/19 08:48 PM.
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Re: What mount
[Re: JUGHEAD]
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02/22/19 12:24 PM
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I have never seen a Sumtoy mount, but a 336 base is nothing but a flat piece of steel with 2 size 8 holes for mounting it to the gun.
This is the part I don't like at all about the 336 mount (and earlier versions of Sumtoy mounts at least, not sure about the one you have), which was the primary source for my disdain in the other post. The tops of shotgun receivers are not flat other than typically say a 1/4" of width before transitioning to a rounded dropoff. The flat bottom of the 336 mount is not ideal for a proper fastener joint interface, regardless of the application. You need the base to match the contour of the top of the gun to produce a more robust joint for all potential static and vibratory loads the joints will experience over years of shooting, traveling, shock loads from falls in the woods, etc. etc. Mr. Steve might argue with me a little, just like I might argue with him a little on the theological implications of the plight of the nation of Israel throughout the Old Testament, but rest assured one of use is WAY more qualified on one subject versus the other. If you do decide on the 336 mount, do however follow the sound advice of Mr. Steve (poorcountrypreacher if case you don't know his name) and consider adding epoxy to the limited contact area between your receiver and the bottom of the mount. It will add a significant amount of robustness, and corresponding long-term reliability of POI/POA, to the joint. Also be sure and add a removable thread locker liquid/gel to the threads of the fasteners. Gun doc uses forming compound to allow for the curve beneath the base.
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Re: What mount
[Re: Atoler]
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02/22/19 12:28 PM
02/22/19 12:28 PM
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JUGHEAD
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Gun doc uses forming compound to allow for the curve beneath the base. Dang good idea! Wes is DA MAN!
"The only reason I shoot a 3.5" shell for turkeys is because they don't make a 4" one." - t123winters
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Re: What mount
[Re: poorcountrypreacher]
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02/22/19 12:55 PM
02/22/19 12:55 PM
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Clark8907
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Was the gun factory drilled?
That is the question that has to be answered before anyone can help you. Unless it was drilled to fit the 336 mount I doubt that it will fit. I don't think any shotgun comes from the factory that way And all of them I have dealt with that were pre-drilled used size 6 screws. The Marlin 336 base uses size 8, probably because there is only 2 of them. It's not a big deal to drill and tap one; any decent gunsmith can do it. If you can't find a gunsmith, carry it to Outback.[/quote] Yes gun cam factory drilled. I know the weaver 93a will work but didnt really want to go that route because of how high it sits. Could I get a burris 336 and drill a hole in it so it lines up with my pre drilled and tapped holes? Does someone have a mount off a affinity 3 that came from factory drilled and tapped they want to part with? This crap is getting to be a pain in the rear. Putting fire sights on the beretta was a breeze now this is a pain.
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