Hey gents...I just got my sumtoy mount and the footprint does not line up with the ff3? Has anyone else had this issue? I've reached out to William and I'm sure I'll hear back from him as his customer service is excellent. I was just curious if anyone else had run into this same issue? It sure does suck because I was planning on get the new gun dialed in this weekend.

Patience grasshopper! You don't have anywhere to hunt anyway!.... Lol!

Going to Texas, ok, and possibly Nebraska. I think I'm doing alright. Next year is a completely different story though. Got a full year for sure. Florida, Wyoming, Texas, and Alabama. Possibly Kansas and Oklahoma as well. Gone finish slam and get single season slam.

Possibly got Trijicon footprint by mistake?

I'm not sure. Ice reached out to him about it. The nipplea on the mount I got is to narrow for the holes to line up. From center nipple to center nipple in the front his was between 3/4 and 7/8 but closer to 3/4. On the ff3 picatiny that come with the sight its between 3/4 and 7/8 but closer to 7/8.

Talked to William this am and he said more than likely the issue is me over tightening the mount and bending it. So for yall thst get these things in the future just make sure you dont over tighten them.

Did it fit before you put it on your gun?

It is this kind of crap, whether it be the Burris 336 mount, the Sumtoy mount, whatever, that makes me question why everybody is so crazy over them. I understand wanting to get the sight as low as possible, but we're not talking about looking through a scope and making a 200 yard rifle shot here....just killing a turkey and often from strange positions while humped up and pinned down at the base of a tree (i.e. you ain't gonna get your head down in the perfect position to begin with). There is no way in hell those mounts are as mechanically secure against recoil loads as using the provided Burris mount, attached to a properly fitting picatinny rail that is made to fit the contour of the specific receiver and is subsequently bolted down to the receiver in 3 or 4 places. I honestly feel like the less than desirable mounting aspects of the 336 mount, across a bunch of varying, non-fitting receivers is the biggest reason why so many (including myself in the past) folks deal with reflex sites ending up being off throughout a turkey season.

You maybe right about the 336 bases. I haven't run enough shells through my gun with the bases to say one way or the other. However, I do like the look a lot better than the picatinny rail.
Although, I'd go the picatinny rail route way before I ever dealt with Sumtoy again.

I’ve had zero luck even attempting to deal with SumToy.

I don't think that the 336 mount on my Yildiz is ever likely to move; William not only tapped the monoblock, but he used epoxy on it as well. Gonna take something serious to ever move it. I have another sxs with the rib section of the monoblock tapped, but it is easily removable. Your concerns might apply to it, but I have not seen any evidence that it's moved. Two size 8 screws into a steel receiver seems to me like that oughta be enough to hold a one ounce sight in place, but anything can go wrong.

I tell you what can absolutely go wrong with a scope or red dot sight that is mounted well above the bore - you can have the dot right on the turkey and put the entire load into a limb or a log that is in line with the bore. I have not one, but 2 trophies for pulling off that stunt.

I wish my eyes would still focus on the front bead well enough to just use a fiber optic, but I guess those days are gone. I didn't have to worry about sight issues in those days, and I think anyone who can see well enough is better off to forget electronic sights.

I had my machinist buddy just groove the receiver itself”single shot” and don’t even have to fool with a base.

There has been many a man use the sumtoy and 336 mount with absolutely zero issue. Not sure jughead where all these peoples sights are getting off throughout Turkey season. I have several buddies with both sumtoy and burris mounts that sighted their gun in over two years ago and nothing has ever moved. I'm not saying your wrong or that it cant happen but what I am saying is that it doesnt happen near as much as you make it seem like. Also the sight actually comes in quite handy on weird awkward positions you mentioned.

I have always had great luck with William. Hes hard to get on the phone right now but he spends the time to explain everything to you and then talk Turkey hunting. William has always went above and beyond to help me and other buddies out. I called him last night and left him a message and he called me as soon as he got in the shop this am and told me what he thought and if I couldnt fix what I screwed up to let him know and he would send another mount. Cant get much better than that.