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Perennial Clover and Liming #2739855
02/16/19 08:15 PM
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All 6 of my fields (1/2 to 1 acre tracts) currently have a winter annual mix that is finishing up. I tested the soil today and I am planning on spreading lime in the next couple of weeks when I get the results back. I plan to plant imperial whitetail clover in late March as a perennial on all of the fields (at least 1/2 of the field in it and leave the other half for fall annual planting, maybe some turnip green mix).

Should I spray the current fields with round up, spread the lime, wait 2 weeks and then disc them to get the lime in more contact with the soil? Should I then wait until late March to plant or should I wait until Sept/Oct to plant the perennial clover so as to let the lime have more of an effect?

The first year planting the perennial clover should I mix in something with it until it starts producing more or will I mitigate this by planting in March?

Re: Perennial Clover and Liming [Re: countryphysician] #2740871
02/18/19 08:34 AM
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Ok, first of all, I would not plant the imperial clover this spring. I would wait until fall. I would get the soil where it needs to be and get my weeds in check and mix the clover in with my fall plantings. Perennial clover is very slow to establish. It spends the first few months establishing the root system to survive our summers and frankly, I don't think it would have time to do this before our hot dry summer hits it, unless we are going to have rain like we are having now all summer, but I doubt it. Call Them, they'll tell you the same thing.

Re: Perennial Clover and Liming [Re: countryphysician] #2740953
02/18/19 10:24 AM
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Listen to Blumsden. The lime is not really going to be working for months anyway so the Clover would struggle in the best of conditions.I have a 1 acre strip I will be turning into Clover this fall. Its getting limed soon and I will plant it in rr soybeans so I can spray it multiple times and get it as grass and weed free as possible before it becomes Clover next fall.

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Re: Perennial Clover and Liming [Re: countryphysician] #2746098
02/23/19 11:39 AM
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Ok so I understand clover probably won't make it through the summer. We have a power line
that we want to plant clover, cereal grains,brassicas etc. on this fall. There is one established
foodplot on it, but the rest has been sprayed for years by the utility company. My question is can
We plant sun hemp and buckwheat and build the soil back up and plant the fall mix in early Oct.
Or is the soil dead after them spraying it for years? I also realize we need a soil test.

Re: Perennial Clover and Liming [Re: countryphysician] #2747473
02/25/19 09:00 AM
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You need to ask what they are using to spray. There is a product called bare dirt that's suppose to kill anything for a year. Make sure whatever they are using has no residual effect. Throw out some cheap seed and see if it sprouts. Perennial clover will last thru the summer, when fall planted on soil that holds moisture.

Re: Perennial Clover and Liming [Re: countryphysician] #2747998
02/25/19 07:48 PM
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Thanks blumsden I did notice a few briars and honeysuckle that survived the spraying
I have seen a few herbicides that say they last a year,but with a lot of rain it doesn't last
that long. I think I'll disk a test section this spring and throw something cheap out like you said
and see what happens.


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