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Re: Game Check County Comparison [Re: 7x57_Mauser] #2739434
02/16/19 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 7x57_Mauser
Game check is the biggest piece of crap I've ever seen. On the other hand, I guess we should just be glad we're not getting stopped every 5 miles because we have mud on our tires and an orange hat reflecting off the windshield. Out west they set up stops regularly.


I've hunted out west a dozen times and have driven thru ONE roadblock/game check in all those trips.


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

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Re: Game Check County Comparison [Re: Squadron77] #2739639
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A joke for sure.


Everything woke turns to shucks
Re: Game Check County Comparison [Re: BhamFred] #2739736
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Originally Posted by BhamFred
Originally Posted by 7x57_Mauser
Game check is the biggest piece of crap I've ever seen. On the other hand, I guess we should just be glad we're not getting stopped every 5 miles because we have mud on our tires and an orange hat reflecting off the windshield. Out west they set up stops regularly.


I've hunted out west a dozen times and have driven thru ONE roadblock/game check in all those trips.


You sir, are a lucky man!

Re: Game Check County Comparison [Re: sj22] #2739935
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Originally Posted by sj22




So how do these numbers let us know how the deer herd is doing?


Legitimate question

Re: Game Check County Comparison [Re: Remington270] #2739977
02/16/19 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Remington270
Originally Posted by sj22




So how do these numbers let us know how the deer herd is doing?


Legitimate question


They don't, just like Game Check overall. We've got a bunch of worthless "data," and Chuckie basically is at liberty to interpret the results as he sees fit.

Re: Game Check County Comparison [Re: Squadron77] #2739979
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Well it tells you that there were a buncha deers killed, some of them was mama deers and some of them were daddy deers. The daddy deers would have been good'uns/better'uns next year if they weren't killed.

Re: Game Check County Comparison [Re: crenshawco] #2739993
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Originally Posted by crenshawco
Originally Posted by Remington270
Originally Posted by sj22




So how do these numbers let us know how the deer herd is doing?


Legitimate question


They don't, just like Game Check overall. We've got a bunch of worthless "data," and Chuckie basically is at liberty to interpret the results as he sees fit.


Yes, he can do what he wants. He said the first year of mandatory GC that 30-35% reported. This year's #s are real close to the first year so the 30-35% is still reporting. That means 65-70% are paying him no attention. So, yes, he can do what he wants but guess what those 65-70% are going to continue to do? Pay him no attention! Drop the buck limit to one?? Real close to the same number of bucks would still be killed, just less would be reported. Cut the season length??? We just added 3 days. Not enough data with a 3 year sample to take it back. Yes, he can do what he wants while at the same time he can do nothing.

Re: Game Check County Comparison [Re: Squadron77] #2740551
02/17/19 06:45 PM
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I live and hunt in Illinois have never hunted out of state we have to buy tags before hunting and call in to state every deer shot. Tags have to be put on deer as soon as shot and cant be taken to taxidermist or processor and game warden can check for tag on any deer he sees with fines for non compliance. Im sure few don't get checked in. How does a state manage a deer herd with only a third checked in. Looks to me like hunters are screwing there own hunting up by not reporting and no self control on what they shoot.

Re: Game Check County Comparison [Re: noble] #2740568
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Originally Posted by noble
I live and hunt in Illinois have never hunted out of state we have to buy tags before hunting and call in to state every deer shot. Tags have to be put on deer as soon as shot and cant be taken to taxidermist or processor and game warden can check for tag on any deer he sees with fines for non compliance. Im sure few don't get checked in. How does a state manage a deer herd with only a third checked in. Looks to me like hunters are screwing there own hunting up by not reporting and no self control on what they shoot.


That is the way most people down here like it. They prefer to disregard any attempt of the state to properly manage the deer herd in any way. Then bitch about the state not managing the deer herd. It really is kind of ironic but it is what it is.


If you're gonna be stupid you better be tough.
Re: Game Check County Comparison [Re: noble] #2740592
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Originally Posted by noble
I live and hunt in Illinois have never hunted out of state we have to buy tags before hunting and call in to state every deer shot. Tags have to be put on deer as soon as shot and cant be taken to taxidermist or processor and game warden can check for tag on any deer he sees with fines for non compliance. Im sure few don't get checked in. How does a state manage a deer herd with only a third checked in. Looks to me like hunters are screwing there own hunting up by not reporting and no self control on what they shoot.


You do realize the State you live in is one of those GOVERNMENT knows best and if you don't believe it they will stomp on your neck don't you? No thanks is my reply.


"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
Re: Game Check County Comparison [Re: noble] #2740606
02/17/19 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by noble
I live and hunt in Illinois have never hunted out of state we have to buy tags before hunting and call in to state every deer shot. Tags have to be put on deer as soon as shot and cant be taken to taxidermist or processor and game warden can check for tag on any deer he sees with fines for non compliance. Im sure few don't get checked in. How does a state manage a deer herd with only a third checked in. Looks to me like hunters are screwing there own hunting up by not reporting and no self control on what they shoot.

FOID!

Re: Game Check County Comparison [Re: Squadron77] #2740608
02/17/19 08:09 PM
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And here we are Alabama has mismanaged herd to point of restocking deer population and in down hill spiral again. Maybe if they had some correct kill numbers they could readjust rules and limits. Illinois is no better they have tag information on majority of deer killed and don't use it, sell pretty much unlimited tags just for the income. It all comes down to hunters taking responsibility and managing the deer they have. you cant complain about your hunting when your part of the problem.

Re: Game Check County Comparison [Re: noble] #2740609
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Originally Posted by noble
I live and hunt in Illinois have never hunted out of state we have to buy tags before hunting and call in to state every deer shot. Tags have to be put on deer as soon as shot and cant be taken to taxidermist or processor and game warden can check for tag on any deer he sees with fines for non compliance. Im sure few don't get checked in. How does a state manage a deer herd with only a third checked in. Looks to me like hunters are screwing there own hunting up by not reporting and no self control on what they shoot.

Why are you concerned about deer in Alabama? You've never hunted outside of Illinoise.

Re: Game Check County Comparison [Re: Squadron77] #2740620
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Just my 2 cents I know I live in a communist state. That doesn't keep me from wanting the best deer hunting I can possibly have on my place. I would assume you would want the same thing.

Re: Game Check County Comparison [Re: mike35549] #2740663
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Originally Posted by mike35549
Originally Posted by noble
I live and hunt in Illinois have never hunted out of state we have to buy tags before hunting and call in to state every deer shot. Tags have to be put on deer as soon as shot and cant be taken to taxidermist or processor and game warden can check for tag on any deer he sees with fines for non compliance. Im sure few don't get checked in. How does a state manage a deer herd with only a third checked in. Looks to me like hunters are screwing there own hunting up by not reporting and no self control on what they shoot.


That is the way most people down here like it. They prefer to disregard any attempt of the state to properly manage the deer herd in any way. Then bitch about the state not managing the deer herd. It really is kind of ironic but it is what it is.



No , we just don't like stupid shucks like GC

Re: Game Check County Comparison [Re: Squadron77] #2746099
02/23/19 11:40 AM
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My two cents...there will never be a perfect system that pleases everyone. Regardless of what’s done by the state, people will blow holes in the “theory”. Tags and check stations cost money; money that the state will have to recoup on licenses and fees. The Game Check can be and will be a good tool as more data is accumulated. Of course there will be limited participation but relative trends will emerge. As with any law, too many people look for ways to get around it either out of greed or some personal satisfaction in being a rebel outlaw??

Bottom line, as with any resource, the consumer is responsible for managing in a way to best preserve the resource. That said, the consumer needs help from time to time being motivated or reminded. IMO, fines for hunting violations should likely be increased exponentially. And before I get crucified for that, let me say that those fines to be greatly increased should be for the illegal kills (hunting at night, trespassing and excessive kills) not chicken crap laws like not having a Harvest Report Card, BS! Notice I did not include Baiting? Again, IMO, until the state puts corn ALL IN or ALL OUT, should only be able to enforce 100 yards and out of sight. I know baiting is illegal, but the state created this cluster when they added that verbiage!

Be smart, be responsible, follow the laws, report your kills and take a kid hunting and teach them to do the same!

Re: Game Check County Comparison [Re: Dkhargroves] #2750221
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Originally Posted by Dkhargroves
Does PDHA stand for public deer hunting areas? If so wtf is that? If not what does it stand for


PDHA stands for physically disabled hunting areas that can be found on different WMAs.

Re: Game Check County Comparison [Re: Squadron77] #2750259
02/28/19 10:31 AM
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The whole gc thing is just a step in the direction of tags. Soon we will be told that the hunters aren't reporting and we need a tag system. Taxidermists and processors will be responsible for making sure that every animal they process is tagged. Game wardens will enforce the tag system by doing inspections of the facilities and road blocks, etc..


Off to Big Sky Country
Re: Game Check County Comparison [Re: Squadron77] #2750263
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All this is for is so Chuck can pluck mandated participation rate out of thin air and DEMAND more rules, regulations and laws TO MAKE ALL OF THE HUNTERS TO FALL IN LOCK STEP OR ELSE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mandatory tags are coming to add to the strangle hold and because Alabama has to be just like other states, when hunting in Alabama's pine forests is not like hunting in the ag belt of the midwest. But BY GAWD we are going to wish our way into more and more stupidity then sit around and wonder what the hell happened and why nobody hunts anymore, but government force is a great thing!!


"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
Re: Game Check County Comparison [Re: Squadron77] #2750332
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I wish Alabama would go to a true tag system. Give you the tags when you purchase your licence. And for those that get caught moving there deer without a tag in place should be punished. The fine should cost over 2000 dollars. Then people will report as required by law.


All you need to know is. Dead deer don't grow!
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