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Re: How To Start New Food Plot
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If it ain't in pines the pH will be better. Pine needles lower the pH leaves are much better for the soil. Light is you friend and you can actually grow a field without the tiller.
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Re: How To Start New Food Plot
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01/08/19 11:03 PM
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We have a few 1/4 plots that are surrounded by tall hardwoods. They drop a lot of leaves and block a lot of sunlight. These plots never do well. If possible, I would try to avoid having taller trees on the south end of the plot if possible. I use a blower once or twice a year to blow off my “micro” plots on the hardwoods
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Re: How To Start New Food Plot
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Clear trees, rake/ burn leaves, spray for weeds and grass. Let sit for 10-14 days then rake and apply Lyme, spray again. Wait 10-14 days rake and spread a thicker layer of seed than the bag says. Start this with the plan to plant seed before the first rain in October. I used a mix of wheat, oats, clover and some brassica. When the leaves fall on it you may have to take them off gently. YouTube poormans plot and you will get some good stuff from Midwest whitetail and Grant woods.
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Re: How To Start New Food Plot
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Clear trees, rake/ burn leaves, spray for weeds and grass. Let sit for 10-14 days then rake and apply Lyme, spray again. Wait 10-14 days rake and spread a thicker layer of seed than the bag says. Start this with the plan to plant seed before the first rain in October. I used a mix of wheat, oats, clover and some brassica. When the leaves fall on it you may have to take them off gently. YouTube poormans plot and you will get some good stuff from Midwest whitetail and Grant woods. I appreciate you laying it out like that. That’s what I was looking for. I have researched and researched micro plots and poor mans plots. The problem I have is contradicting info. For instance, you say spread lime and rake then plant about two weeks later. Other places say to spread then till/disc because it takes months for line to raise the ph. Will this be green and ready for middle of oct. when archery opens? Any way I could go ahead and plant soon to give them some spring/summer food to eat then overseed before october? Thanks.
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Re: How To Start New Food Plot
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01/09/19 03:53 PM
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You could use fast acting lime if release time is a major concern...a bit pricey.
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Re: How To Start New Food Plot
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Whitetail institute imperial clover is the best if you can meet its requirements.
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Re: How To Start New Food Plot
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Whitetail institute imperial clover is the best if you can meet its requirements.
That’s what I was looking at getting. Their planting times say one time during feb-mar then again in sept-oct. how fast does this stuff come up good? For best results in mid oct, should I rush for the early planting or apply lime now and let it work till September? Anything I should add to the clover the first season to help it along? I have seen people say clover plots are weak their first year.
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Re: How To Start New Food Plot
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01/11/19 08:10 PM
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Go to Whitetail Institute tutorials ..they want you to succeed.
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Re: How To Start New Food Plot
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01/11/19 08:34 PM
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I planted 2 acres of corn and watched deer in the first of January walk through the corn (bush hogged some of it) to get to the clover. It was the first planting in spring of clover and it was limed (paper mill by product soil test recommendation 2 tons per acre) ) only a month before on hayfield ground that held some moisture. Seedbed prep and proper planting techniques for clover makes the plot. Cultipacker is a must.
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Re: How To Start New Food Plot
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Important for clover... moisture, PH, fert., soil prep, timing, seed depth, sun, maintenance. Good seed (WI) fist of all.
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Re: How To Start New Food Plot
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To quickly raise the PH, you can use Sol-u-cal, or my favorite is the Jonathan Green Magi-cal. Now these don't keep the PH high like lime will for a long period of time, but they do it quickly. The bag is around $65 shipped from amazon and will do 15,000 sq ft. You could toss that out when you plant and it will last through hunting season. If you are in hardwoods, you may be surprised that the PH isn't bad. Pines are what drops the PH. Optimum PH is 6-7 but a lot of seeds will do fine in 5.6 and higher. I think crimson clover, rye grain, oats and wheat will do fine, the lack of sunlight will have an effect on the outcome, if its your property you an hinge cut some of the westward trees for more afternoon sun. That will also thicken up the edging to make a good transition. Do a search for what particular seed will do better in shade, if you can't find any, you could get some shade tolerant tall fescue to fool them to come out! I haven't ever heard of a deer eating fescue, but it'll be worth a shot! Good luck!
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