Anyone heard anything about this? CWD found in some that have been killed. Within miles of
Colbert and lauderdale county. ( northwest corner ) on the county line to Hardeman county Tennessee. Will be a matter of time before it’s for sure found in Alabama. If it doesn’t already exist and we just haven’t found it yet in anyone’s kills.

What if it's in Walmart Corn? LOL

Not that it matters but Hardeman county isn’t in the state line

Oops. I meant to say Hardin county.

I’m guessing the infected Tennessee deer won’t cross the state line into Alabama. Just like mountain lions and bears don’t.


Seriously it’s just a matter of time before some non compliant deer hunting jackass screws it up for the rest of us.

We have a CWD border wall

Are you talking about the 10 confirmed and three more believed to be positive that was announced more than a week ago?

http://www.aldeer.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2673310#Post2673310


Or something newer?

With three confirmed in Miss. and now Tenn. I’m afraid it might already be here.

Eleven more deer in Tennessee have tested positive for CWD with prelim tests. Awaiting confirmation. If confirmed this would make 24 discovered in the same area.

https://www.tn.gov/content/tn/twra/...e-in-fayette-and-hardeman-counties-.html

Jay Gregory. Posted this on FB.


For all of you sitting the fence on CWD, ponder this!!

For the first two weeks of January In the expanded CWD ZONE in Southern Minnesota! (About 1000 square miles)
Anyone from any state with permission from a land owner can go to Minnesota and kill as many deer as you can kill no limit and do it for free. WITH a rifle...(in zones that are shotgun only in the regular gun season)
And you don’t have to wear hunter orange!!

Recap- with landowner permission, shoot as many deer as you want buck or doe,at no cost. With a rifle!

COMING TO A STATE NEAR YOU!!! Wake up people!!!!
www.dnr.state.mn.us/cwd/dpa-346-special-cwd-hunt.html

No results from the testing in Hackleburg yet??

It just happened Saturday. Doubt results are that quick to show up. But I could be wrong too

This is what scares me the most. If they find it here, they will have this special season where you just kill all the deer you see. And idiots will do it because they think its fun. I hop it is never found in our area.

That just doesn't seem plausible that it was not there one day, next day 24 cases. Are these random samplings from deer donated by hunters or are they state selected/killed? I guess I am asking how the deer are collected in TN

If it does end up here and I figure it will at some point, how many of you will still process / eat your kills?

I will. Just don’t see any evidence not to

I will. You do t get your same deer at the processor anyway

The Alabama Department of Conservation and Natural Resources is increasing Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) sampling surveillance efforts in northwest Alabama after deer in nearby Mississippi and Tennessee counties tested CWD-positive. CWD is a contagious and deadly neurological disorder that affects members of the deer family. To date, no deer in Alabama have tested positive for CWD.

The Division of Wildlife and Freshwater Fisheries (WFF) will conduct a voluntary CWD-sampling station Jan. 12-13 in Waterloo, Alabama, in Lauderdale County.

The sampling station in Lauderdale County will be set up in the parking lot of Waterloo Fire Station #1, 6390 County Road 14, Waterloo, AL 35677.

Deer may be brought to Waterloo for sampling during the following dates and times:

Saturday, January 12 from 9 a.m. to 7 p.m.
Sunday, January 13 from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m.

Deer harvested in Franklin, Marion, Lamar, Lauderdale and Colbert counties are being targeted, but biologists will sample deer from surrounding counties as well. Sampling involves removing the retropharyngeal lymph nodes from the head of a deer. Hunters may bring in a whole deer, field-dressed deer, or just the head from the harvested animal. Collecting a sample from a harvested deer takes only a few minutes.

Since 2002, WFF has relied on the assistance of hunters who have volunteered their harvested deer for CWD surveillance sampling. WFF is again seeking the assistance of hunters to help conserve Alabama’s natural resources by taking their harvested deer to the Hackleburg or Waterloo CWD-sampling stations. All hunters who volunteer their harvested deer for sampling will receive the CWD surveillance test result.

To learn more about CWD and to get information on future public sampling sites, visit www.outdooralabama.com/cwd.

NW AL is screwed. What are they going to do when they find it in State?

They've got a whole action plan. It's long. Happy reading....

Destroying half the deer population to stop a disease that would only kill a fraction as many if left alone should be a good way for them to milk federal money for a good long while.

Kill off the deer herd with sharpshooters and extend the season. The DNR will ruin deer hunting. This disease has been around for 50 years!!!!!

What are you even talking about?

Why not just follow other states that have dealt with it for years?Iowa has CWD and still has awesome hunting. I don’t think Alabama DNR is going to come up with a better plan based on there past decisions.

No ONE will step foot on my farm but me. I can promise you.

That will work 257 I'll sit in the passenger seat and you can get the gates and hold the light.... (dusting off the ole 7400 as I type).

I gave it a speed read... I especially liked the part under "Why we are concerned" that stated , and I'm paraphrasing here,.... they don't really know what the impact on the deer population would be.

Pure Genius. I guess nobody thought to study or at least look into what the impact has been in other States. These are your tax dollars at work. If you don't know hail choot'em right?

I will not eat any deer from a confirmed positive area. Its not about the deer its about human impact. The positive results are about uniformly distrubuted as you possibly draw... WOW!

Overreacting is first thing they will do.

Where did you get half 95 percent Killem before they die They say every deer that gets cwd will die Guess what every deer will die under these rules How do you know what 95 percent is in nthe wild

Welp, there's been at least 1 more confirmed case in TN....some friends of ours with land in Fayette Co got a call from their processor a couple of days ago that one of their deer had come back with a positive test result. They'd already picked up the meat and had given some away, so they're scrambling to get it back or make sure it's thrown out.

Why are they throwing it out? Not one shred of evidence has been presented that shows CWD can be transmitted to humans by eating meat.

Because they feel it's not worth the risk, no matter how small. And personally I agree. I wouldn't eat it myself and I certainly wouldn't feed it to my kids.

Shouldn't we'll cooked be fine? No one has died from CWD yet

Well, from what I've read temperature does not kill/remove it. Plus venison cooked more than medium isn't worth eating (and medium is pushing it)

heat won't kill the prions

I'd throw it away also.

This exactly part of the problem. CWD is a serious issue but the states current plan is equally bad and Chuckie has made it clear recently that he plans to do exactly what’s in the plan if found here and he will encounter significant resistance. Overall, the deer population will suffer from both the CWD and the states overreaction.

You can't kill the prions that cause the disease with cooking temperatures or fire.

But again, not a shred of evidence has been presented that shows consuming meat from a deer with CWD does anything.

Gotcha I wasn't sure on cooking.

Chronic Wasting Disease research out of Midwestern University has shed new light on how farmed deer could be bred to be more resistant to the disease.

The research, performed by Dr. Nicholas J. Haley, an assistant professor at the College of Veterinary Medicine at Midwestern University, found genetic traits in a small minority of deer that impart higher levels of resistance to CWD.

By expanding the prevalence of these traits through selective breeding, CWD resistance could grow among farmed deer, in the same way the sheep industry has successfully bred for scrapie resistant animals and has all but eliminated the disease in domestic sheep in North America over the last decade.

About 70 percent of deer have one or two copies of the 96G allele, which is considered the most susceptible to CWD. The 96S allele is less common (and more resistant to CWD than the 96G), with 20 percent of deer having one or two copies. The 116G, 95H, and 226K alleles are relatively rare and the most resistant to CWD-but less than 5-10 percent of deer have a single copy of any of these alleles.

It is very difficult to find deer with two copies of any of these three CWD-resistant alleles — but that would be the goal in order to breed for the most CWD-resistant herd.

A number of deer farmers within the industry are now trying to flip these ratios by breeding towards 96S, 95H, and 226K animals and breeding away from the more susceptible 96G animals, in the hope that their herds will face a lower risk of infection.

But we've all been told farmed fence deer are horrible

I saw that on Keith Warrens show last night Donald. Pretty interesting and very well may be the answer one day.

Is this the hunting version of global warming?

I mean, what is the worst case scenario? For some reason it feels vastly overblown.

The Midwest has recovered nicely from what I could see in IL.

Acid rain

Probably just common sense since it has been proven to kill deer, elk, moose, ferrets, pigs, spider monkeys, maque monkeys and humanized mice.

you do realize that one of the traits of the TSE group is that they are supposed to be species specific, that is they won't jump the species barrier to another species. Scrappie jumped to mule deer under very heavily contaminated conditions at Ft Collins. CWD is born and has proven to be the least species specific of the TSE group. It has jumped to Elk, Whitetails, Moose, Reindeer, and a host of others, including monkeys, in a lab setting. Keep in mind the incubation period of other human TSEs is very long, like 30-40 YEARS. Also there have been NO STUDIES to prove or disprove the ability of CWD to jump to humans by eating contaminated meat. Some of the monkeys in the lab did contract CWD by eating contaminated meat.

Damnifin I'd eat any suspect meat from a CWD zone.

These studies are interesting to bad our backwards ass state views the farms as enemies instead of allies. I know the majority of the ones I know would be glad to work with the state on a research type basis to better understand this. Instead they rather do a mass depopulation.

It has never been proven that it jumped from sheep to mule deer.

it did jump from sheep to mule deer and anyone who says it didn't is a damn liar. The biologists who discovered what the illness was in the deer said it did and she was the leading researcher on CWD in the world before her death in an auto accident.

Direct me to that research. I have read nothing that says it was proven. Speculation? Yes. Proven? No. How did the very first sheep get it? Could the sheep and mile deer both gotten from the same source?

I have read the Macaque paper and it is a very long stretch to say it jumped the species barrier based on that study. They took infected concentrated brain tissue and actually not only implanted it in the Macaque tissue in the brain but scratched the brain cells to make sure it had positive uptake. On the others they were feeding them as much as 25% of their total body weight per day in infected concentrated CWD brain tissue. This does not show it can "naturally jump" the barrier from natural means, only that it can live in a different host species under ideal conditions. Further only half of the Macaques in this study contracted the disease under this extreme set of circumstances.

CWD-info.org must be spreading bad info!

Scrapie, a TSE of domestic sheep, has been recognized in the United States since 1947, and it is possible that CWD was derived from scrapie. It is possible, though never proven, that deer came into contact with scrapie-infected sheep either on shared pastures or in captivity somewhere along the front range of the Rocky Mountains, where high levels of sheep grazing occurred in the early 1900s.

centralala, I've studied CWD since 1980, read everything there was to read on it starting back then. The "official line" has changed a lot since then to lie their way out of admitting that Colorado set the stage for the transmission of scrappy to deer at the Foothills Wildlife Research Station in 1965 er so. Beth Williams was one of the original research assistants involved in the studies. She said, in her early writings that deer were placed in pens that had held scrappy infected sheep. She had no reason to lie. Co now denies that it happened. Williams went on to earn he Doctorate and discovered that the "strange illness" that befell the deer in the pens was a TSE disease(scrappie). Williams said in one of her later papers that "she feared that they(the researchers at FT Collins) had set the stage for a new disease in deer. She was at the time the worlds leading researcher on CWD.

Anyone who studied CWDs origins and spread can come to only one conclusion....that CWD had its birth at FT Collins Co in 1965-67. Researchers in the early 80s backtraced every infected deer in the US and Canada directly or indirectly back to Ft Collins. The researchers at Ft Collins had released deer back into the wild just north of Ft Collins. Take a look at any current map of CWD outbreaks and notice the red hot zone just north of Ft Collins.

you don't think that something on the internet could be wrong for whatever motive.

That was from a Dr. Elizabeth Williams paper, a pathologists who found the brain liesions associated with CWD. Why would she lie? Who were you refering to that proved it went from sheep to deer? I would like to read here also.

I'm just asking to show me the info. I want to read where it went from sheep to deer and proven.

In “THE MACQUE MONKEY STUDY”, as in the one that everyone one is raising a big fuss about, the meat fed to the macaques represented the human equivalent of eating a 7-ounce steak per month not 25% of their body weight in brains.

So just to be clear the equivalent of A SEVEN OUNCE STEAK PER MONTH killed monkeys in THE MAQUE MONKEY study. I believe 3/5 had died so far at the time those findings were posted. They Weren’t done with the study yet as I recall but that was so alarming they had to get it out.

Let me be clear, all I know is what I've read. And I've read a ton on it. I welcome something different from what I've read. I have found some discrepancies between states in some readings. Nothing major. But to say they are lying as a cover up leads me to believe that is not the only lie. So, what else are we being lied to about CWD.

Come again?

The first case of CWD was seen in 1967 in a captive mule deer at the Foothills Wildlife Research Station (operated by the Colorado Dept. of Wildlife) in Ft. Collins and was attributed then by station employees to close confinement of deer to former (scrapie) sheep pasture or to horizontal transmission from sheep allowed into the pens. The shortest known incubation time in deer is 17 months, dating the exposure back to 1965-66 or earlier. Surplus does were released back into the wild after fawning in the facility; the first case in free-ranging wild deer was seen in 1981. Other infected animals were shipped to zoos (Denver, Toronto, Laramie), game farms, and similar research facilities in Colorado and Wyoming.

exactly. First sick deer(CWD) found IN the research pens. Infected deer were shipped to those named locations AND some released back into the wild north of Ft Collins.

CJD (the human prion desease) is suppose to have an infection rate of one in a million. I know 3 people in Central Alabama who have died from CJD in the last 3 years. Autopsy confirmed . I’m not at all saying there is any evidence it came from deer, just saying I think it is a much bigger problem than people think. It affects people like rapid onset dementa or Alzheimer’s. Got to have an autopsy to be sure of diagnosis. They are reluctant to do that because frankly it’s dangerous

It's been a good discussion and I appreciate all the feedback. 2 things for sure is it will always kill the individual deer but has never wiped out a herd. That never wiped out a herd is a big misconception that I had myself. I thought when CWD hits all the deer die. I think a lot of the casual hunters believe this. It's bad, we don't need it, but it's not the end of deer.

There is absolutely nothing I do or not do that is a direct threat of spreading this disease. Not that is known or speculated as spreading it at the moment anyway.

One thing that I keep going back to is how the very first animal got it? I've read the term "spontaneous naturally" several times as a possibility on how some animals get it. I just don't how this can not be true, especially with the very first animal. And if it happened once, surely it can happen again.

The new law says they will kill 95 percent of the deer in that 25 mile circle around where the deer was found, there will be no more hunting there for years because they will have wiped out the deer herd

The new law says they will kill 95 percent of the deer in that 25 mile circle around where the deer was found, there will be no more hunting there for years because they will have wiped out the deer herd

What new "law" are you talking about?

Specifics, please.

Come again? Is this some contest to plant the most misconception? How much are they paying you to dribble together random nonsense? Who are you even replying to?

Which hasn’t worked anywhere else but Alabama will be the first

Well, I wasn't replying to your dumbass. Now explain what misconception

You better go pull the paper as well as the power point presentation givin at the conference and do some reading your self. The fine print tells a different story as a matter of fact the National Institute of Health publicstion in March of 2018 that CWD showed no transmission in Macqaues in the 13 year study.
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/new...asting-disease-transmissibility-macaques
I will find my old post that I wrote right after reading it and pull the numbers.

Here is another review of the same study with some scepticism
https://www.myewa.org/blog/fake-chronic-wasting-disease-cwd/

TWRA board met Thursday and today in Memphis. Part of today's presentation was an update on the CWD situation.

The board (and public) were told more than 4,800 deer have been tested, with 62 positives in Fayette and Hardeman counties.

YOU need to go pull the study that shows where the equalivent of a SEVEN OUNCE STEAK per month resulted in Macque monkey infection. The study you linked to found no infection after oral exposure to FOUR GRAMs of brain material ( doses of .8grams spread out over a couple week. I am not too concerned about 4 grams of brain material. Iam concerned about the fact that Macque monkeys fed the equivalent of a seven ounce steak per month over something like three years (so what, 15 pounds of meat, 6800 grams) infected them. After all, that’s a lower amount of meat than most deer hunters consume.

I did! See that’s the problem with calling someone out who actually has read in detail the papers as well as the supporting documents and oral presentations. Slide 14/34 in the attached presentation test subjects AU316, AU385, and AU501 were fed “5kg repeatedly” hence my comment that they were fed 25% of their body weight multiple times you pull the slide and tell me that isn’t what it says. Also there are some discussion that they were also fed Macquarie meat from the ones that had been directly injected in the brain.
https://www.cste2.org/Webinars/files/CWD_Slides_FINAL.pdf

So as to your 7 ounce comment they do not define repeatedly in the study but do call out 5kg being injested by Macquas repeatedly who according to wiki have an average weight of 7.7kg. So that would be equivalent to eating 125lbs of raw brain and muscle tissue by an average male “repeatedly” or 64% of the Macquas average body weight of raw infected Brian and muscle tissue. So the 7 ounce steak comparison is way off.

So how many of y'all saying there's no human health concerns would eat beef from a bse infected cow?

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The problem is that first you said it was a very long stretch that CWD could jump the species barrier and you made it seem like the test was impractical because the macque monkeys ate 25 percent of their body weight in infected brains. You left out the whole part about, you know, contracting the disease from EATING JUST THE MEAT, which is what people care about. The reality is that it’s no stretch at all considering that all they did was consume a large quantity of meat over time which is what most people do when they kill a deer.

I’m not sure how they came to the seven ounce per day calculation but that’s what the news articles cite. I’m sure you’ll be able to see their methodology when they publish the final study. In any event, using your figures would be the equivalent of a 200 lb man eating a 10 ounce steak every week for three years unless you really believe they fed 5 kg at a time to a 7.7 kg monkey repeatedly. John Candy could barely handle the ole 96er so I doubt a man-size maque monkey could do The ole 2000er. (125lbs x 16 ounces) Maybe i’m Wrong there but you have a look. https://youtu.be/gc_5tx7xRlg

I'm waiting on you to explain these misconceptions.

Individual deer get it die.
Herds have never been wiped out by the disease itself.
Some people believe it will wipe out the entire herd.
Nothing I'm currently doing will have an effect on the disease spreading.

That’s over 1%. Very high in my opinion. It would make me worried about eating one.

I said it’s a long stretch from natural contraction and it damn sure is the study plain states in the oral presentation 5kg repeatedly of raw infected tissue.. Further I wouldn’t be quoting information from the local news and defending it without reading the damn study my self. The oral presentation plainly states 5kg repeatedly. I assume they were delivering an “acute” injection trying to obtain maximum effect. My comparison is based off of the data not a damn news article where some “journalist” sensationalized misstated or straight out lied about the results.

As for the full results being published they never are only a subset of researcher drawn conclusions. These same researchers depend on the next study to fund them and their next crop of grad students and post docs so they have a vested interest in perpetuating the research ask me how I know.

I wouldn't be to sure about that They sneak in and go around deer farms and crawl over high fences

Bullschit they will

You read a POWER POINT, dear lord. Now, you say you listened to the presentation which you clearly didn't. It's ok. I went and did the legwork for you.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/spor...erns-human-susceptibility-cwd/430046001/

Here's a newspaper that links to the actual presentation, given by the actual researcher who says they fed them, and I'm quoting here:

"Muscle tissue, animals received 5 kilograms of muscle, the macques, over a period of two years, roughly 200g, eaten once a month".



That translates to a 7.05479 ounce steak, once a month, for two years gave the maques CWD.

Now, maybe they made it all up. I guess that's possible. Now that you mention it, that little old researcher lady looks the type. She probably doesn't even need those glasses. That's totally a fake swedish accent too.

HA, you know what I was talking about.

What are the symptoms of a CWD infected deer?

Yet again quote a third party news agency instead of reading it your self you are a genius! Requoting a newspaper instead of the actual work is not leg work. It’s ok I recently watched one of your class of geniuses quote a simulation output as data. Quoting a newspaper that references another news article must make it true i mean it’s the news lord knows CNN never embellishes one quoting the other just makes it a circular reference.

As for the lead researcher falsifying it either her briefing to a peer reviewed conference is wrong or the newspaper journalist isn’t wrong I know which my money is on. When I get to the office Monday I will ask for myself.

Basically, for the first 18-24 months they don't have any symptoms that you can see, then they start losing weight and all their bodily functions start to go till eventually they're walking around with their head down drooling. Here's a couple links to a buck and cow elk near the end game: Whitetail buck with CWD. Cow elk with CWD


Per the USGS:

"What are the visual signs of chronic wasting disease?

Chronic wasting disease (CWD) has an extended incubation period averaging 18–24 months between infection and the onset of noticeable signs. During this time frame animals look and act normal. The most obvious sign of CWD is progressive weight loss. Numerous behavioral changes also have been reported, including decreased social interaction, loss of awareness, and loss of fear of humans.Diseased animals also may exhibit increased drinking, urination, and excessive salivation."

You are making this very difficult. Luckily, I am a patient man. As I said, the newspaper article contains a LINK to the ACTUAL PRESENTATION that they based their article on, which is the presentation given by the ACTUAL RESEARCHER. You know, a video of what she actually said. Straight from the horses mouth as they say. Go look. Go watch the presentation.

You know what, I'm going to make this real easy. Here's the link to the actual presentation on the study which was given at the Prion 2017 Conference in Edinburgh: [video:youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/Vtt1kAVDhDQ[/video]You know what, i'm going to make it even easier. Click play. That's the little sideways triangle button at the bottom left of the screen. Now, it's a long video. A whole day's worth. Don't worry. Like I said, I did the legwork. Go to 1:36:56 / 8:25:25.

There's your quote, thereby resolving this whole scuffle between us irrefutably. The macaque monkeys got CWD from eating a tad bit more than a 7 oz steak, once per month, for two years.

Now, if you want to start a new scuffle, like say, the researcher looks like a 3 out of 10 when she is clearly a 7 then I am all for it. Now, to be fair, I guess that's a little subjective because some men, myself included, like their women a little older. Either way she's a solid 7 but you're probably gonna dispute that. Centralala probably will too. In which case, please direct me to research that she's not a 7.

I have no idea what you are talking about. I will ask you one more time to please explain what misconceptions you are talking about? And who are "they" that would be paying me? You are running your mouth, now put up or shut up.

You paint a rosy picture but it’s a fairytale. Payment was an exaggeration. CWD is going to ravage the whitetail deer herd in this country. It’s not going to be ok but there are things hunters can do to stave off the end. Fostering an attitude that this isn’t a big deal, deer will persevere, there’s nothing we can do, etc is only going to foster resistance to tHe measures that are going to be necessary to attempt to prolong CWD free hunting.

Show me where I said that it's no big deal and I'll Show you where I said it's a bad thing and we don't need it. Show me 1 time the disease itself has ravaged the deer herd. Now is your time to really shine here. Show me where I said any misconceptions.

I did, you just couldn’t see it.

Be specific. Spell it out. Say what it is. I'll say again, put up or shut up. Tell me what specifically i said was incorrect. This is your chance to really show your depth of knowledge on this subject.

But I'm afraid you had some misconcepeptions, you googled it, and found out you are wrong. Therefore, you will keep dodging the question of what specifically i said that was wrong. Then....we will know..... Rock has returned!

ya'll two go get a room.....

Since you have felt the need to comment I will also give you the chance to say which of the following comments are incorrect:

Individual deer that get cwd die.
A deer herd has never been wiped out by the disease itself.
Some people believe it will wipe out the herd.
Nothing I am currently doing will have an effect on the spread of the disease.

all true^^^^^^^^^^^

ya'll ain't argueing on the same page......

Well, put me on the right page because I really have no idea what the misconceptions I'm spreading he's refering to.

I didn't say I KNEW what page, just that ya'll ain't on the same one!

Well, at least I can challenge you and get an intelligent conversation back and good food for thought whether we agree or not. You can at least explain your answers. This guy cant.

Why do they worry about cwd when we loose hundreds or thousands to blue tongue and ehd ?? A few years ago along the Milk river and in Nebraska and in Alabama last year lost thousands, but Alabama game and fish said they don't care about our deer

Why do they worry about cwd when we loose hundreds or thousands to blue tongue and ehd ?? A few years ago along the Milk river and in Nebraska and in Alabama last year lost thousands, but Alabama game and fish said they don't care about our deer

pretty good point. EHD has killed 10000X the number of deer that CWD has. Every year, every where.

If EHD would have a greater impact on cattle there would already be a vaccine for it....

To me EHD does not have the threat of an impact on humans, those that eat infected deer that CWD MAY be proven to have. CWD has so far proven to be the most prolific "species barrier" jumper of any of the TSE family of diseases. I pray it will not be proven to jump to humans under normal conditions of hunting and venison consumption.

Two biggies:

1.) Disease transmission cycle: EHD can kill a lot of animals all at once but the herd recovers because the disease tramsission cycle is ‘broken’ when the midges that transmit the disease die off during the winter and by animals getting the virus and surviving thereby getting some immunity. It tends to kill in 5/10 year cycles. CWD on the other hand hasn’t really been shown to have a break in the disease transmission cycle. Animals get it, make more animals sick, and the prevalence rates are just worse and worse and worse. With EHD things get better in a couple years, with CWD it doesn’t. EHD is like a fever where for a few days everything sucks but you’re better. CWD is a slow cancer and it doesn’t look like there is going to be a cure. It will slowly get worse and worse and worse in areas that have the disease. Some areas of Wisconsin where the disease has been present since early 2000s have progressed from low prevalence rates to 40-50 percent prevalence rates in 2 1/2 year old or older bucks. In these areas very few bucks are going to be reaching their 4th birthday. They studied one mule deer herd in Wyoming and it is projected to go extinct in the next few decades. CWD is a downward spiral with no end in sight sort of thing.EHD is a rose in comparison.

2.) human health concerns - prion diseases have shown a remarkable ability to jump between mammal species due the similarity between our protein structures. Birds, fish and reptiles can’t get them, but between mammals, all bets are off. It’s really a free for all. They can also even go through one species to kill another. In one experiment they Fed or injected mice with cwd but they didn’t die. They fed those mice to ferrets and the ferrets died. They fed the ferrets to the original mice species and it killed them when it didn’t before. Crazy stuff.

I don't agree with you on that. they don't get some immunity, if they did they would not die the next year from getting bit the next year, THINK ABOUT IT.. I don't know where you got the 5 /10 years but you must have your head under a rock. it has hit for the last two years and deer die by the hundreds or thousands for the last two years.

Deer that survive a particular strain of EHD do build up an immunity to THAT strain. Problem is there are at least five known strains of EHD in Alabama and different strains can hit the same herd in the same year. The storms out of south Fla brought a new strain into Alabama year before last that killed a lot of deer. Southern deer that have evolved over time do not die at the same high rate that northern deer do that have recently been exposed to EHD

historically EHD outbreaks IN A SMALL AREA do run a seven year+/- cycle. EHD does kill deer all over Alabama EVERY YEAR, but usually NOT the same small locations. The mutation of the virus may be changing that cycle some.

There is something about force feeding tainted meat over years to give them a disease just to prove a point is a little off. I guess that is the way some research is done, but it is like the testing where they force fed saccharin to the rats, sort of like feeding a human a couple of tons to give a person cancer. After 60 years CWD is still a might, if , could, maybe type of diseaise.

Funny at the responses to this question.