The first case of CWD was seen in 1967 in a captive mule deer at the Foothills Wildlife Research Station (operated by the Colorado Dept. of Wildlife) in Ft. Collins and was attributed then by station employees to close confinement of deer to former (scrapie) sheep pasture or to horizontal transmission from sheep allowed into the pens. The shortest known incubation time in deer is 17 months, dating the exposure back to 1965-66 or earlier. Surplus does were released back into the wild after fawning in the facility; the first case in free-ranging wild deer was seen in 1981. Other infected animals were shipped to zoos (Denver, Toronto, Laramie), game farms, and similar research facilities in Colorado and Wyoming.

exactly. First sick deer(CWD) found IN the research pens. Infected deer were shipped to those named locations AND some released back into the wild north of Ft Collins.

CJD (the human prion desease) is suppose to have an infection rate of one in a million. I know 3 people in Central Alabama who have died from CJD in the last 3 years. Autopsy confirmed . I’m not at all saying there is any evidence it came from deer, just saying I think it is a much bigger problem than people think. It affects people like rapid onset dementa or Alzheimer’s. Got to have an autopsy to be sure of diagnosis. They are reluctant to do that because frankly it’s dangerous

It's been a good discussion and I appreciate all the feedback. 2 things for sure is it will always kill the individual deer but has never wiped out a herd. That never wiped out a herd is a big misconception that I had myself. I thought when CWD hits all the deer die. I think a lot of the casual hunters believe this. It's bad, we don't need it, but it's not the end of deer.

There is absolutely nothing I do or not do that is a direct threat of spreading this disease. Not that is known or speculated as spreading it at the moment anyway.

One thing that I keep going back to is how the very first animal got it? I've read the term "spontaneous naturally" several times as a possibility on how some animals get it. I just don't how this can not be true, especially with the very first animal. And if it happened once, surely it can happen again.

The new law says they will kill 95 percent of the deer in that 25 mile circle around where the deer was found, there will be no more hunting there for years because they will have wiped out the deer herd

The new law says they will kill 95 percent of the deer in that 25 mile circle around where the deer was found, there will be no more hunting there for years because they will have wiped out the deer herd

What new "law" are you talking about?

Specifics, please.

Come again? Is this some contest to plant the most misconception? How much are they paying you to dribble together random nonsense? Who are you even replying to?

Which hasn’t worked anywhere else but Alabama will be the first

Well, I wasn't replying to your dumbass. Now explain what misconception

You better go pull the paper as well as the power point presentation givin at the conference and do some reading your self. The fine print tells a different story as a matter of fact the National Institute of Health publicstion in March of 2018 that CWD showed no transmission in Macqaues in the 13 year study.
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/new...asting-disease-transmissibility-macaques
I will find my old post that I wrote right after reading it and pull the numbers.

Here is another review of the same study with some scepticism
https://www.myewa.org/blog/fake-chronic-wasting-disease-cwd/

TWRA board met Thursday and today in Memphis. Part of today's presentation was an update on the CWD situation.

The board (and public) were told more than 4,800 deer have been tested, with 62 positives in Fayette and Hardeman counties.

YOU need to go pull the study that shows where the equalivent of a SEVEN OUNCE STEAK per month resulted in Macque monkey infection. The study you linked to found no infection after oral exposure to FOUR GRAMs of brain material ( doses of .8grams spread out over a couple week. I am not too concerned about 4 grams of brain material. Iam concerned about the fact that Macque monkeys fed the equivalent of a seven ounce steak per month over something like three years (so what, 15 pounds of meat, 6800 grams) infected them. After all, that’s a lower amount of meat than most deer hunters consume.

I did! See that’s the problem with calling someone out who actually has read in detail the papers as well as the supporting documents and oral presentations. Slide 14/34 in the attached presentation test subjects AU316, AU385, and AU501 were fed “5kg repeatedly” hence my comment that they were fed 25% of their body weight multiple times you pull the slide and tell me that isn’t what it says. Also there are some discussion that they were also fed Macquarie meat from the ones that had been directly injected in the brain.
https://www.cste2.org/Webinars/files/CWD_Slides_FINAL.pdf

So as to your 7 ounce comment they do not define repeatedly in the study but do call out 5kg being injested by Macquas repeatedly who according to wiki have an average weight of 7.7kg. So that would be equivalent to eating 125lbs of raw brain and muscle tissue by an average male “repeatedly” or 64% of the Macquas average body weight of raw infected Brian and muscle tissue. So the 7 ounce steak comparison is way off.

So how many of y'all saying there's no human health concerns would eat beef from a bse infected cow?

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The problem is that first you said it was a very long stretch that CWD could jump the species barrier and you made it seem like the test was impractical because the macque monkeys ate 25 percent of their body weight in infected brains. You left out the whole part about, you know, contracting the disease from EATING JUST THE MEAT, which is what people care about. The reality is that it’s no stretch at all considering that all they did was consume a large quantity of meat over time which is what most people do when they kill a deer.

I’m not sure how they came to the seven ounce per day calculation but that’s what the news articles cite. I’m sure you’ll be able to see their methodology when they publish the final study. In any event, using your figures would be the equivalent of a 200 lb man eating a 10 ounce steak every week for three years unless you really believe they fed 5 kg at a time to a 7.7 kg monkey repeatedly. John Candy could barely handle the ole 96er so I doubt a man-size maque monkey could do The ole 2000er. (125lbs x 16 ounces) Maybe i’m Wrong there but you have a look. https://youtu.be/gc_5tx7xRlg

I'm waiting on you to explain these misconceptions.

Individual deer get it die.
Herds have never been wiped out by the disease itself.
Some people believe it will wipe out the entire herd.
Nothing I'm currently doing will have an effect on the disease spreading.

That’s over 1%. Very high in my opinion. It would make me worried about eating one.

I said it’s a long stretch from natural contraction and it damn sure is the study plain states in the oral presentation 5kg repeatedly of raw infected tissue.. Further I wouldn’t be quoting information from the local news and defending it without reading the damn study my self. The oral presentation plainly states 5kg repeatedly. I assume they were delivering an “acute” injection trying to obtain maximum effect. My comparison is based off of the data not a damn news article where some “journalist” sensationalized misstated or straight out lied about the results.

As for the full results being published they never are only a subset of researcher drawn conclusions. These same researchers depend on the next study to fund them and their next crop of grad students and post docs so they have a vested interest in perpetuating the research ask me how I know.