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CWD Response Plan #2674256
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I’m fairly certain this has been posted here a couple of times, but ppl are continuing to ask what AL will do if we detect a positive case. If you’re interested please read below. It will prevent a lot of false info being shared and answer a lot of questions.

AL DCNR CWD Response Plan

Re: CWD Response Plan [Re: Mbrock] #2674283
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Does detection not rest solely on the hunter reporting it to you guys? Unless one of you guys catch it in advance or see it first hand? Considering the GC numbers and compliance, I wonder how many hunters would actually report it based on misinformation or lack there of not reading up on what's going on around us with something like this you posted? I know I would report it if something looked bad with the deer. I just wonder about others being so many could care less about our game laws.


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Re: CWD Response Plan [Re: Mbrock] #2674342
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No, we are testing several hundred if not a few thousand deer this year. The bulk of theses are road kill but some are sick deer we’re called out on and hunter harvested deer.

Re: CWD Response Plan [Re: Mbrock] #2674364
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Supplemental feeding? I know quite a few non hunters who feed deer just to watch. Neighborhoods, back yard, whatever. They are not reading this or any other info on CWD. How will that be addressed?

Re: CWD Response Plan [Re: Mbrock] #2674429
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Thanks for posting Matt.
Hunters will have a big responsibility to thin the herd and thin it hard if we get it and our ground is in a zone. I’m curious if shooting them at night would be part of that response.
I read first 10 pages fairly close. Scanned more. I may have missed it but what does the Department recommend as far as consumption? I don’t believe I want to eat a sick deer.


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Re: CWD Response Plan [Re: Mbrock] #2674531
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It talks about ending supplemental feeding if found. We talk about being proactive about deboning meat etc. why not be proactive and end supplemental feeding now??

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Originally Posted by cgardner
It talks about ending supplemental feeding if found. We talk about being proactive about deboning meat etc. why not be proactive and end supplemental feeding now??


So a bag of corn from the store is dangerous but corn out of a corn field is safe?


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Originally Posted by cgardner
It talks about ending supplemental feeding if found. We talk about being proactive about deboning meat etc. why not be proactive and end supplemental feeding now??
good question.

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We should kill all buzzards that might eat an infected dead deer and fly 50 miles away and take a dump.

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Originally Posted by hunting13
We should kill all buzzards that might eat an infected dead deer and fly 50 miles away and take a dump.


Crows too! I also read where CWD tested positive in coyote feces for up to 3 days, even though the coyote did not test positive for CWD.


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When testing a deer for CWD, will the testing itself kill the deer, even if it is a healthy deer without CWD?

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Originally Posted by BOFF
When testing a deer for CWD, will the testing itself kill the deer, even if it is a healthy deer without CWD?

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They can only test dead animals. There’s no test for the living. If CWD is found in Alabama the deer herd will be decimated, not by CWD but by our game and fish department.


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Originally Posted by sluggun
Originally Posted by BOFF
When testing a deer for CWD, will the testing itself kill the deer, even if it is a healthy deer without CWD?

God Bless,
David B.



They can only test dead animals. There’s no test for the living. If CWD is found in Alabama the deer herd will be decimated, not by CWD but by our game and fish department.

For what, and what makes you think that?? Killing a bunch of deer won’t do anything I don’t believe if it lives in the soil for long periods of time. If it’s here, it’s here to stay from what I have read. I believe there will be plenty of samples for them to study off of dead deer that died from the disease, roadkill, and hunters. I doubt they try to decimate the population until they know that it would benefit the future herd.


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Re: CWD Response Plan [Re: sluggun] #2675139
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Originally Posted by sluggun
Originally Posted by BOFF
When testing a deer for CWD, will the testing itself kill the deer, even if it is a healthy deer without CWD?

God Bless,
David B.



They can only test dead animals. There’s no test for the living. If CWD is found in Alabama the deer herd will be decimated, not by CWD but by our game and fish department.




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Re: CWD Response Plan [Re: cgardner] #2675236
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Originally Posted by cgardner
It talks about ending supplemental feeding if found. We talk about being proactive about deboning meat etc. why not be proactive and end supplemental feeding now??


The same reason the prohibition on natural deer urine was put off until 2019 by the Advisory Board.

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Re: CWD Response Plan [Re: Mbrock] #2675246
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I have a question about the urine thing....

1. I've read a stat that says it takes 33,000 gallons of infected deer urine to equal the amount of CWD that is in 1 oz of infected brain tissue. If that is a real stat are we really preventing anything by prohibiting urine?

2. If urine is bottled by Alabama deer would it still be prohibited? The estrus I buy is bottled by a guy in Grant with deer solely from Alabama. Couldn't there be a measure put in the rule at the CAB that allows for this?

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Originally Posted by Clem
Originally Posted by cgardner
It talks about ending supplemental feeding if found. We talk about being proactive about deboning meat etc. why not be proactive and end supplemental feeding now??


The same reason the prohibition on natural deer urine was put off until 2019 by the Advisory Board.

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Yep!!

Re: CWD Response Plan [Re: Johnal3] #2675256
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Originally Posted by Johnal3
Originally Posted by sluggun
Originally Posted by BOFF
When testing a deer for CWD, will the testing itself kill the deer, even if it is a healthy deer without CWD?

God Bless,
David B.



They can only test dead animals. There’s no test for the living. If CWD is found in Alabama the deer herd will be decimated, not by CWD but by our game and fish department.

For what, and what makes you think that?? Killing a bunch of deer won’t do anything I don’t believe if it lives in the soil for long periods of time. If it’s here, it’s here to stay from what I have read. I believe there will be plenty of samples for them to study off of dead deer that died from the disease, roadkill, and hunters. I doubt they try to decimate the population until they know that it would benefit the future herd.




Did you not read the response plan that was posted?? If a deer is found with CWD a WHOLE LOTTA deer are gonna be killed in the surrounding area.

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Originally Posted by sluggun
Originally Posted by BOFF
When testing a deer for CWD, will the testing itself kill the deer, even if it is a healthy deer without CWD?

God Bless,
David B.



They can only test dead animals. There’s no test for the living. If CWD is found in Alabama the deer herd will be decimated, not by CWD but by our game and fish department.



And you didn’t read a word of the response plan.

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I get it, but you gotta laugh at the notion of "Oh no a disease might kill all our deer, we better kill all the deer!"

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