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Bergara B14 hunter or Tikka #2670590
12/12/18 03:18 PM
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Which is the better gun and why ?

Re: Bergara B14 hunter or Tikka [Re: Bushmaster78] #2670873
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Bang for buck not sure how you can beat a Tikka but if you need a B14 or Cooper, Sako be happy!

Re: Bergara B14 hunter or Tikka [Re: Bushmaster78] #2670882
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My Tikka T3x is a great shooter. The Bergara is a great shooter for a little more money. I like them both a lot.

Re: Bergara B14 hunter or Tikka [Re: Bushmaster78] #2670946
12/12/18 10:06 PM
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Bergara


Two roads diverged in the woods and I took the one with deep ruts,hills and mud.It may be bumpy but WHAT A RIDE!
Re: Bergara B14 hunter or Tikka [Re: Bushmaster78] #2671059
12/13/18 12:26 AM
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There was a good deal on a stainless tikka in 7mm-08 in the classifieds just the other day. Not sure if it sold or not.

Re: Bergara B14 hunter or Tikka [Re: Bushmaster78] #2671070
12/13/18 12:47 AM
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What real world value would you put on a used Tikka T3 blued synthetic in .308 in good shape?
I have a number in my head and would love to know how if it jives.


“Killing tomorrow’s trophies today.”

On the distance I like to walk to my stands:
“The first 100 yards is also the last 100 yards.”
Re: Bergara B14 hunter or Tikka [Re: AC870] #2671167
12/13/18 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by AC870
What real world value would you put on a used Tikka T3 blued synthetic in .308 in good shape?
I have a number in my head and would love to know how if it jives.


$400-$500 depending on how fast you want to sell it.

Re: Bergara B14 hunter or Tikka [Re: Bushmaster78] #2671177
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Perzactly what I thought Clark.


“Killing tomorrow’s trophies today.”

On the distance I like to walk to my stands:
“The first 100 yards is also the last 100 yards.”
Re: Bergara B14 hunter or Tikka [Re: Bushmaster78] #2671358
12/13/18 11:23 AM
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No real experience yet with a Bergara. Their lower priced rifles are made in Spain, with the high priced ones made here in Georgia. They are certainly throwing a lot of advertising and sponsorship dollars at the US market.

I have been pleased with the smoothness and accuracy of every Tikka that I have ever handled.

Re: Bergara B14 hunter or Tikka [Re: Bushmaster78] #2672227
12/13/18 11:34 PM
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You hunting or punching paper? Hunting- Tikka, Punching paper- Bergara. Both are great guns. Tikka will not leave you wanting on the range either....


Hunting brings out the worst in people.
Re: Bergara B14 hunter or Tikka [Re: Bushmaster78] #2672372
12/14/18 08:43 AM
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Tikka because of the smoothness of the action the crispness of the trigger and the out of the box accuracy. For the money there’s not a better gun out there imo.


Right and wrong will never change---only people's perception!
Re: Bergara B14 hunter or Tikka [Re: Bushmaster78] #2672736
12/14/18 12:54 PM
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I’ve owned multiple Tikka’s as well as 3 Bergara’s. I’ll put the Bergaras up against the Tikkas any day. I prefer the Bergara stocks a lot better than the Tikkas. But both are accurate rifles. The Bergara just feel a little nicer to me but both are excellent values for the money and will likely outshoot 95% of the folks on here


Sent leaning against a big oak in knee deep water
Re: Bergara B14 hunter or Tikka [Re: Bushmaster78] #2672953
12/14/18 04:35 PM
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For the money, I like the Kimber Hunter better than the Tikka. Magazine is flush with the bottom of the rifle, trigger at least as good, and a 3 position safety.

The fact that you can disassemble the bolt for cleaning with no tools is another big plus

Re: Bergara B14 hunter or Tikka [Re: UncleHuck] #2672959
12/14/18 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by UncleHuck

For the money, I like the Kimber Hunter better than the Tikka. Magazine is flush with the bottom of the rifle, trigger at least as good, and a 3 position safety.

The fact that you can disassemble the bolt for cleaning with no tools is another big plus


Aren't Kimbers known for sporadic accuracy and customer service lackluster?
https://www.rokslide.com/forums/firearms/65475-kimber-customer-service-quality.html

Re: Bergara B14 hunter or Tikka [Re: Bushmaster78] #2673397
12/15/18 12:04 AM
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Kimberly has gone way downhill. They were great at oe time but the CS is horrible. Such a shame. Another victim of corporate America screwing up a once great company. All to increase $$$. Seems to happen a lot these days.


Hunting brings out the worst in people.
Re: Bergara B14 hunter or Tikka [Re: Bushmaster78] #2673462
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I have set up 6-7 of them in the last 2-3 years without an issue. I can't speak to their customer service, as I have never called them.

Every one that I ever touched was a shooter, sub-MOA with at least one variety of factory ammo.

Re: Bergara B14 hunter or Tikka [Re: AU7MM08] #2675338
12/17/18 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by AU7MM08
Originally Posted by UncleHuck

For the money, I like the Kimber Hunter better than the Tikka. Magazine is flush with the bottom of the rifle, trigger at least as good, and a 3 position safety.

The fact that you can disassemble the bolt for cleaning with no tools is another big plus


Aren't Kimbers known for sporadic accuracy and customer service lackluster?
https://www.rokslide.com/forums/firearms/65475-kimber-customer-service-quality.html


I own two currently, have owned 4 total over the years and all were absolute hammers once you got ammo choice dialed in and barrels broken in. I've killed all kinds of cervids with them out to 500 yards.

I suppose the vocal minority spur up all kinds of negative publicity. Or maybe the competitors just don't want to compete.


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Re: Bergara B14 hunter or Tikka [Re: Bushmaster78] #2675580
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I have messed around with a couple Kimbers that would not shoot over about 20 years. I think I started on Kimber in the mid 90's maybe and I've shot probably 40-50 of their rifles since then. One of my shooting buddies has about 10 himself.

During that same time frame I have messed around with countless other rifles that would not shoot well. Not every rifle shoots and all can be fixed I just think people that pay more expect more. What they do not realize is that small pencil thin barrels are not known for inherent accuracy. To me something like a Kimber Montana is a 3 shot group rifle. If I can get a 3 shot MOA group that's about as good as it will do. This is perfectly adequate for hunting. I've got a Kimber Sonora that will shoot with any custom rifle built that I bought used for no more than what you would pay for a Sendero.

There is no validity to the Argument - Buy a Tikka because it "shoots". Buy it because you like it...they do not shoot any better than anything else... some guns even less expensive. They are Beretta's cheap to manufacture rifle. Nothing more or less. No different than a Ruger American they are cut from the same cloth.... who can make the cheapest plastic gun that shoots well. Well..... Ruger but if you want to pay more you can get the Tikka they at least take the time to contour the sharp plastic edges.


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Re: Bergara B14 hunter or Tikka [Re: Bushmaster78] #2680070
12/22/18 01:13 AM
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Goat killer,
You shot the T3X yet? I agree that the original tikka had some cheap aspects but they raised the bar with the X for sure.


Hunting brings out the worst in people.
Re: Bergara B14 hunter or Tikka [Re: Big Bore] #2680352
12/22/18 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Bore
Goat killer,
... they raised the bar with the X for sure.


Serious question, how did they do that?

All I've seen comparing the two were manufacturing short cuts. Case in point was no longer machining the lateral lines in the top of the receiver.

I know, it's really not a big deal functionally, but some would argue it helped reduce glare.

Either way it is a step saved in manufacturing and makes the rifle just a little less expensive to produce. As for the stock changes, I have never thought I needed to change the pistol grip.

Maybe its just me, but I didn't see enough "X" tra to warrant the price increase.


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