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Re: Explain Arrow Head Hunting... [Re: bama1971] #2673253
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Originally Posted by bama1971
Originally Posted by jbatey1
Me and Travis had shoe boxes full of them from when we would find then when we were younger.

It always amazed me at how many arrow heads there are out there. Damn injuns must have dropped those things as quick as they could make them.


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Re: Explain Arrow Head Hunting... [Re: Irishguy] #2673254
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I scouted cotton every summer from the age of 13 to 20. Found a handful every week while I was working.

Re: Explain Arrow Head Hunting... [Re: Irishguy] #2673260
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I had a place on some land behind my house as a kid where a previous landowner had dug out an area that was probably 100 yards by 70 yards and probably 10' deep. I have no idea what they were doing, but it was on high sandy clay ground so it didnt hold water. Every time it rained I'd go back there and find something. A lot of pottery shards, broken points, knapping flakes, and the occasional full point. The pottery was the coolest to me because it had designs and drawings in a lot of it but I never did find anything close to a whole piece.

Since then, I've always kind of kept an eye on the ground when I'm in the woods. I've found a handful of more points and pieces, but nothing like that spot was.

Unfortunately since then, that land has been somewhat developed and there is now a house sitting right on top of where I used to find them.

Re: Explain Arrow Head Hunting... [Re: Irishguy] #2673270
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Re: Explain Arrow Head Hunting... [Re: Irishguy] #2673272
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Originally Posted by Irishguy


I guess the reason is that indigenous people have been using them for thousands of years and losing lots of them along the way.


Nail head, meet hammer. And there are some things to look for just like finding random deer in the woods. Plowed fields obviously, but also in those plowed fields along or near a waterway and maybe on a slight raised area. If the soil in the area is light colored, that raised area in the plowed field along the creek may have darker ground. If so, it could be an old village site. If that's so, you will probably find a lot of broken or inferior heads(knapping mishaps), knapping flakes scattered heavily, and lots of broken pottery pieces too. Drills, grinding stones, hooks, pestles n mortars, beads, etc. may be laying around. After the first rain once the field has been plowed is a great time to spot arrowheads because the rocks, pottery and such will often be laying smack dab on top of the ground and freshly washed at that.

Re: Explain Arrow Head Hunting... [Re: Hevishot13] #2673274
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Damn at all the Indian Sex Stones. grin


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Re: Explain Arrow Head Hunting... [Re: Irishguy] #2673304
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Originally Posted by Irishguy
OK... So I've never found an actual arrow head. Of course I haven't hunted for them all that much either. The reason for this is the same reason that I don't gamble or play the lottery. It seems like such a long shot. Here's why I think like that...

On one hand searching for an arrow head would be like trying to find a random stray bullet in the forest without a metal detector. On the other hand I guess you might find a cache of them in some old village where a knapper was trying to make a bunch of them and kept discarding ones he didn't like. Tossing them away in one spot.

Am I missing something here? I mean if I invited you to go out in the woods and go hunting bullets, you would look at me like I was crazy, yet people go arrow head hunting all the time. It would seem to me that the chances of finding either would be about equal. Yet I know that people find them all the time. Of course people win at gambling too...


Irishguy, well, your bullet / arrowhead analogy is faulty. These "points" can be predictably found in certain areas once you learn what to look for.


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Re: Explain Arrow Head Hunting... [Re: 257wbymag] #2673308
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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
I got better things to do with my time.


I love the way 257 has a way of just cutting through the BS. This is why I ain’t found no points.


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Re: Explain Arrow Head Hunting... [Re: joshm28] #2673320
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Originally Posted by joshm28
What about bent trees you find in the woods. I’ve often heard they were street signs of sorts. We have one in some virgin timber on our lease. Just curious


Not very likely to be a marked/marker tree. Would need to be close to two hundred years old. Among the many crooked trees encountered, only a few are Indian trail markers. The casual observer often experiences difficulty in distinguishing between accidentally deformed trees and those ... purposely bent by the Indians. Deformities may occur in many ways. A large tree may fall upon a sapling, pinning it down for a sufficient length of time to establish a permanent bend. Lightning may split a trunk, causing a portion to fall or lean in such a way as to resemble an Indian marker. Wind, sleet snow or depredations by animals may cause accidental deformities in trees. However, such injuries leave scars which are apparent to the careful observer, and these may serve in distinguishing such trees from Indian trail markers.

You might enjoy read the following as it has some good information regarding marker/trail trees.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_trees

Re: Explain Arrow Head Hunting... [Re: Irishguy] #2673321
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Expert advice. When your walking around in the woods, every once in while, look down.

Re: Explain Arrow Head Hunting... [Re: Irishguy] #2673322
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There's more to it than just looking at any plowed field. Preferably a hill next to a water source. The kind of place indians would have had a villiage. If you find a freshly plowed field like that, you most likely will find a pocket full.
Most however will be damaged due to plows hitting them.


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Re: Explain Arrow Head Hunting... [Re: jbatey1] #2673326
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Originally Posted by jbatey1
Originally Posted by bama1971
Originally Posted by jbatey1
Me and Travis had shoe boxes full of them from when we would find then when we were younger.

It always amazed me at how many arrow heads there are out there. Damn injuns must have dropped those things as quick as they could make them.


Before glownocks



Could you imagine just dropping rage after rage and saying " Aw, hell, after each hunt I'll just buy another new pack."


Hell. I’d a lot sooner lose $40 of rages than a point I spent a few hours beating into shape

Re: Explain Arrow Head Hunting... [Re: Irishguy] #2673328
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Skidder trails is also a good place to find them.

Re: Explain Arrow Head Hunting... [Re: jbatey1] #2673329
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Originally Posted by jbatey1
What's your experience hunting points around bluff areas? Wife's family has several miles of bluff property that I plan to search out after hunting season. There are some areas that, at one time, could have been nice overhangs or shelters, but they have crumbled and fell in on themselves. South/ Southeast facing


I’ve found several nice ones under overhangs. I found an overhang once at Skyline where someone had left their shovels and sifter box. In just a few minutes, I found a couple nice points and a cool bone tool. It was sharpened to a point and I suppose used like an awl or something similar. Found several grindstones in those kinds of places over the years. You should do some looking. I bet you’ll find some, especially on that SE side.

Re: Explain Arrow Head Hunting... [Re: Irishguy] #2673332
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We find a small black bird point now and then. Ive heard alot of folks say "that arrorhead is worth $300" or "that spearpoint is worth $2500". My question is: where is the fellow you go to whos gona pay you that for them. Is there such a guy anywhere? Ive said 100 times, they aint worth crap if nobody will buy em.

Re: Explain Arrow Head Hunting... [Re: Irishguy] #2673336
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You aint gonna find many "indian marker trees" in Alabama in 2018. Practically all the bent trees you find were bent by logging equipment years ago.

Re: Explain Arrow Head Hunting... [Re: wheelgun] #2673341
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Originally Posted by wheelgun
You aint gonna find many "indian marker trees" in Alabama in 2018. Practically all the bent trees you find were bent by logging equipment years ago.


This is an area old growth forest.

Re: Explain Arrow Head Hunting... [Re: Irishguy] #2673385
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There are things to look for that may indicate where a village was. Close to water, higher sandy ground that when looking at an entire field will look like a lighter color. Close water but not close enough to flood. The best time is after the field has been plowed and there has been about 3" of rain. If you find a bunch of little chips you are in the right place. Where you find one point, more than likely there are more there.


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Re: Explain Arrow Head Hunting... [Re: joshm28] #2673392
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Originally Posted by joshm28
Originally Posted by wheelgun
You aint gonna find many "indian marker trees" in Alabama in 2018. Practically all the bent trees you find were bent by logging equipment years ago.


This is an area old growth forest.


It would have to be REAL old growth , as in 200 years .



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Re: Explain Arrow Head Hunting... [Re: joshm28] #2673401
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Originally Posted by joshm28
Originally Posted by wheelgun
You aint gonna find many "indian marker trees" in Alabama in 2018. Practically all the bent trees you find were bent by logging equipment years ago.


This is an area old growth forest.


Would have to be 200 years plus.

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