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Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
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12/09/18 02:50 PM
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So here we go...... dig deep in your vault and tell us what your choice for Bama Bucks would be????? This would be for all around, so no bean field rifles and no 25 yard brush guns... This would cover tree stands to shooting houses, stalking and still hunting, short and long range..... Include caliber and load if you want and scope too.
I will start. How about the tikka t3x in the wood laminate. Short action so .308 or .300wsm(mine). Swarovski Z6 3x18x50.
Hunting brings out the worst in people.
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
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12/09/18 03:09 PM
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
[Re: Big Bore]
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12/09/18 03:29 PM
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Haven't we been here before...
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
[Re: Big Bore]
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12/09/18 05:03 PM
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Easy, I have it leaning against the wall. Model 75 Sako Finnlight in .308 topped with a Leupold Vari-X 3 2.5-8 with custom heavy duplex .
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
[Re: Big Bore]
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12/09/18 06:05 PM
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.257Bob, 6.5x55Swede, .300Roy, .45LC, #57 stone, sharp stick, ninja throwing star, etc Life's too short for one perfect deer rifle
We’re not dead. We just smell that way. Dayum. - AC870
Yessir! I’m always gonna shoot what makes me happy and I want everyone else to do the same! If you shoot one be proud of it and don’t worry what anyone else thinks. - SJ22
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
[Re: Big Bore]
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12/09/18 07:21 PM
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Then one you can shoot accurately - without flinching - and make clean kill shots at any range you are realistically gonna shoot
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There are two types of gun enthusiasts ... Those who have been F#CKED by PTG and those who will be!
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
[Re: Big Bore]
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12/09/18 07:56 PM
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The 30.06 is never a mistake, but really a glorified pine goat ain't hard to put down.. Find a rifle & round you like & hit the woods
The left lane is for the the purpose of moving the flow of traffic forward regardless of the speed limit. If your impeding the flow of traffic get your ass in the right lane. It's really that simple...
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
[Re: Big Bore]
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12/09/18 08:05 PM
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I like the kimber 84m in 308
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
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12/09/18 08:10 PM
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I like the kimber 84m in 308 Or 7-08 maybe even better.
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
[Re: jb20]
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12/09/18 08:12 PM
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I like the kimber 84m in 308 I would like to have one of the first pattern Kimber Mountain Ascent rifles is .308. Topped with a silver VX3i 4.5-14x56.. What a combo! Jason
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
[Re: Stob]
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12/09/18 09:54 PM
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Bolt rifle in a short action like a .243, .260, 7-08, ,308 etc.... Winner, winner, chicken dinner. I will say this based on the answers I’ve seen here — a lot of you bitches got really nice hardware.
“Killing tomorrow’s trophies today.”
On the distance I like to walk to my stands: “The first 100 yards is also the last 100 yards.”
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
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12/09/18 09:58 PM
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too heavy for stalking, and too loud for a shooting house. But it will kill.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
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12/09/18 10:10 PM
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I like the kimber 84m in 308 Or 7-08 maybe even better. Better to play it safe and have both
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
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12/09/18 10:18 PM
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Come on 257webymag! You old sour puss! Don’t be ashamed to say Marlin 336 in grandpas silvertip 30-30 with open sites....we won’t judge you.
Hunting brings out the worst in people.
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
[Re: Big Bore]
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12/09/18 10:56 PM
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Come on 257webymag! You old sour puss! Don’t be ashamed to say Marlin 336 in grandpas silvertip 30-30 with open sites....we won’t judge you. hell ,,,, i wish they still sold them sliver tips
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
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12/09/18 11:00 PM
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Come on 257webymag! You old sour puss! Don’t be ashamed to say Marlin 336 in grandpas silvertip 30-30 with open sites....we won’t judge you. hell ,,,, i wish they still sold them sliver tips
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
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12/09/18 11:32 PM
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I believe quailman recommends at least a 45-70 for spikes.
Sig Sauer, to hell and back reliable.
Whatever suits you just tickles me plum to death.
Can I refill your eggnog for you? Get you something to eat? Drive you out to the middle of nowhere and leave you for dead?
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
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12/10/18 12:36 AM
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I like the kimber 84m in 308 I would like to have one of the first pattern Kimber Mountain Ascent rifles is .308. Topped with a silver VX3i 4.5-14x56.. What a combo! Jason Too much scope. If I was going to shoot long range,I would choose a heavier rifle. I use mine in the woods with a 1.5-8X32. To me it's short,fast,and light. Sort of a modern version of a lever gun.
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
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12/10/18 06:24 AM
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I like the kimber 84m in 308 I would like to have one of the first pattern Kimber Mountain Ascent rifles is .308. Topped with a silver VX3i 4.5-14x56.. What a combo! Jason Too much scope. If I was going to shoot long range,I would choose a heavier rifle. I use mine in the woods with a 1.5-8X32. To me it's short,fast,and light. Sort of a modern version of a lever gun. I'm gonna have to agree, , scope don't match the gun per OPs question. I just don't understand a "mountain rifle" type gun with a Hubble on top, never have , never will.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
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12/10/18 06:44 AM
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I like the kimber 84m in 308 I would like to have one of the first pattern Kimber Mountain Ascent rifles is .308. Topped with a silver VX3i 4.5-14x56.. What a combo! Jason Too much scope. If I was going to shoot long range,I would choose a heavier rifle. I use mine in the woods with a 1.5-8X32. To me it's short,fast,and light. Sort of a modern version of a lever gun. I'm gonna have to agree, :o, scope don't match the gun per OPs question. I just don't understand a "mountain rifle" type gun with a Hubble on top, never have , never will. Agreed. Hubble scopes have their place, just not on a lightweight sporter rifle.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
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12/10/18 08:41 AM
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I like the kimber 84m in 308 I would like to have one of the first pattern Kimber Mountain Ascent rifles is .308. Topped with a silver VX3i 4.5-14x56.. What a combo! Jason Too much scope. If I was going to shoot long range,I would choose a heavier rifle. I use mine in the woods with a 1.5-8X32. To me it's short,fast,and light. Sort of a modern version of a lever gun. I'm gonna have to agree, :o, scope don't match the gun per OPs question. I just don't understand a "mountain rifle" type gun with a Hubble on top, never have , never will. My mountain ascent in 300wsm shoots sub moa at 700 yards, so it's not a bad combo. I don't hunt with mine in AL though.
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
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12/10/18 09:32 AM
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My mountain ascent in 300wsm shoots sub moa at 700 yards, so it's not a bad combo. I don't hunt with mine in AL though.
amazing
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
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12/10/18 10:29 AM
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Just a basic Model 7 in either .308 or 7mm-08 would be the best all around rifle for the money.
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
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12/10/18 12:00 PM
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Just a basic Model 7 in either .308 or 7mm-08 would be the best all around rifle for the money.
That's what I shootz. In 7-08
There are two types of gun enthusiasts ... Those who have been F#CKED by PTG and those who will be!
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
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12/10/18 02:14 PM
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Easy, I have it leaning against the wall. Model 75 Sako Finnlight in .308 topped with a Leupold Vari-X 3 2.5-8 with custom heavy duplex . This guy gets it. Except mine is an 85 and the scope choice is a tad different! Wish I had the 75 instead though there is very little difference in the short action calibers.
"The only reason I shoot a 3.5" shell for turkeys is because they don't make a 4" one." - t123winters
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
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12/10/18 02:33 PM
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H&R Handi in .280 Sightron SIII 1.5-6x50 4a Might call me crazy,but I know what works for me
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
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Have the handi in 280 Remington. Love it. Favorite is 7mm-08 have a couple and never lost a deer I properly hit. I'm a fan of the Handi.Some won't shoot,some will,and some will drive tacks.There nothing much to look at,but fun to hunt and tinker with...
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
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Agreed. I learned a hard lesson a while back. My brother-in-law wanted to get into hunting and bought the cheapest savage with a scope available. It shot circles around my rifle, all the bullet holes touched with the cheapest ammo he could find. What was disheartening was that it cost less than the wood on my gun. I still have a nice featherweight, but have enjoyed hunting/playing with much less expensive rifles and have found that I have killed more deer with those than the more expensive ones
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
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12/10/18 03:27 PM
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Have the handi in 280 Remington. Love it. Favorite is 7mm-08 have a couple and never lost a deer I properly hit. I'm a fan of the Handi.Some won't shoot,some will,and some will drive tacks.There nothing much to look at,but fun to hunt and tinker with... i got a 243 , 357mag ,30-30 and a 35 whelen . they all shoot great . the little 357mag after the trigger job really surprised me . as for hunting out of a pop up imo they are the best
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
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You guys are probably correct about the 4-14 being too much scope for that 308, but I still like it! Keep in mind, this is coming from a guy who uses a 44 mag lever gun with NO GLASS on 90% of my hunts. I am still a fan of a good ole 30-30 with a 3-9x50 on it for a good all around rifle. With the newer bullets you can get good accuracy at distance with one.
Jason
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
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You guys are probably correct about the 4-14 being too much scope for that 308, but I still like it! Keep in mind, this is coming from a guy who uses a 44 mag lever gun with NO GLASS on 90% of my hunts. I am still a fan of a good ole 30-30 with a 3-9x50 on it for a good all around rifle. With the newer bullets you can get good accuracy at distance with one.
Jason
Not saying that scope is too much for a 308, just too much for a lightweight sporter rifle designed for carrying. I have a heavy barrel 308 with a fat fore end stock that I have a 6x24x50 scope mounted on top and weighs over 10 lbs. Good for its purpose which is long range target shooting and sitting in a shooting house, but it's not an "all around rifle". Not a gun I'm going to carry in the woods or tote up a tree in a climbing stand.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
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You guys are probably correct about the 4-14 being too much scope for that 308, but I still like it! Keep in mind, this is coming from a guy who uses a 44 mag lever gun with NO GLASS on 90% of my hunts. I am still a fan of a good ole 30-30 with a 3-9x50 on it for a good all around rifle. With the newer bullets you can get good accuracy at distance with one.
Jason
Not saying that scope is too much for a 308, just too much for a lightweight sporter rifle designed for carrying. I have a heavy barrel 308 with a fat fore end stock that I have a 6x24x50 scope mounted on top and weighs over 10 lbs. Good for its purpose which is long range target shooting and sitting in a shooting house, but it's not an "all around rifle". Not a gun I'm going to carry in the woods or tote up a tree in a climbing stand. Johnny loco will disagree weight doesn't matter lol
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
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You guys are probably correct about the 4-14 being too much scope for that 308, but I still like it! Keep in mind, this is coming from a guy who uses a 44 mag lever gun with NO GLASS on 90% of my hunts. I am still a fan of a good ole 30-30 with a 3-9x50 on it for a good all around rifle. With the newer bullets you can get good accuracy at distance with one.
Jason
Not saying that scope is too much for a 308, just too much for a lightweight sporter rifle designed for carrying. I have a heavy barrel 308 with a fat fore end stock that I have a 6x24x50 scope mounted on top and weighs over 10 lbs. Good for its purpose which is long range target shooting and sitting in a shooting house, but it's not an "all around rifle". Not a gun I'm going to carry in the woods or tote up a tree in a climbing stand. Reread, I said THAT 308. I understand what your saying tho, its a lot of scope for THAT rifle. I still like it tho! Lol. Jason
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
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308,270,6.5 Creedmoor,300 win mag,260,280,25-06 take your pick. If lower recoil is desired by all means look at the Creedmoor
Two roads diverged in the woods and I took the one with deep ruts,hills and mud.It may be bumpy but WHAT A RIDE!
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
[Re: Big Bore]
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12/11/18 09:47 AM
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If you don't at least shoot a .338 Lapua, you a punk
There are 3 certainties in an uncertain world:
1. All Politicians Are Liars 2. All Gun Laws Are an Infringement 3. Taxation Is Theft
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
[Re: R_H_Clark]
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12/11/18 10:16 AM
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For me and my style of Alabama hunting, Caliber doesn't matter too much. I would say 243 to 300 win. My rifle choice limits caliber more. I want something light enough to drag up and down hills and hollers. It needs to be fast handling with a good woods scope and capable of accuracy out to about 200 yards. That's all I need in Alabama. I've killed a lot more deer moving at 50-75 yards than standing at over 100. I think this would describe most everyone's hunting in Alabama. But people buy guns more suited for long distance shooting with high magnification scopes and 50mm + objective lenses, none of which are needed for typical Alabama hunting. I know a guy who went to Africa with one of these type set ups and when he came back he told me how difficult it was to find game in the thick brush with a 15x scope. The Swarovski sales rep has told me that Alabama is an anomaly in their sales. They can't sell their scopes which have objective lenses under 50mm here, but those scopes are their top sellers in other areas. Folks in this state have bought in to the myth of the magical 50mm objectives.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
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12/11/18 04:26 PM
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For me and my style of Alabama hunting, Caliber doesn't matter too much. I would say 243 to 300 win. My rifle choice limits caliber more. I want something light enough to drag up and down hills and hollers. It needs to be fast handling with a good woods scope and capable of accuracy out to about 200 yards. That's all I need in Alabama. I've killed a lot more deer moving at 50-75 yards than standing at over 100. I think this would describe most everyone's hunting in Alabama. But people buy guns more suited for long distance shooting with high magnification scopes and 50mm + objective lenses, none of which are needed for typical Alabama hunting. I know a guy who went to Africa with one of these type set ups and when he came back he told me how difficult it was to find game in the thick brush with a 15x scope. The Swarovski sales rep has told me that Alabama is an anomaly in their sales. They can't sell their scopes which have objective lenses under 50mm here, but those scopes are their top sellers in other areas. Folks in this state have bought in to the myth of the magical 50mm objectives. I reckon the top tier for Alabama rednecks must be a Browning with a 50mm scope. I've killed one deer "by luck" at about 400 yards. Other than that I don't think any have been over 150 with most in the woods real close. I've shot several that landed literally at my feet while I was on the ground. For some reason,I've had several nice deer come running dead toward me ,and I nearly had to shoot them in self defense. My preferred 1.5-2X woods scope helps when you shoot one at 20 feet running dead at you.
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
[Re: R_H_Clark]
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12/11/18 04:41 PM
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For me and my style of Alabama hunting, Caliber doesn't matter too much. I would say 243 to 300 win. My rifle choice limits caliber more. I want something light enough to drag up and down hills and hollers. It needs to be fast handling with a good woods scope and capable of accuracy out to about 200 yards. That's all I need in Alabama. I've killed a lot more deer moving at 50-75 yards than standing at over 100. I think this would describe most everyone's hunting in Alabama. But people buy guns more suited for long distance shooting with high magnification scopes and 50mm + objective lenses, none of which are needed for typical Alabama hunting. I know a guy who went to Africa with one of these type set ups and when he came back he told me how difficult it was to find game in the thick brush with a 15x scope. The Swarovski sales rep has told me that Alabama is an anomaly in their sales. They can't sell their scopes which have objective lenses under 50mm here, but those scopes are their top sellers in other areas. Folks in this state have bought in to the myth of the magical 50mm objectives. I reckon the top tier for Alabama rednecks must be a Browning with a 50mm scope. I've killed one deer "by luck" at about 400 yards. Other than that I don't think any have been over 150 with most in the woods real close. I've shot several that landed literally at my feet while I was on the ground. For some reason,I've had several nice deer come running dead toward me ,and I nearly had to shoot them in self defense. My preferred 1.5-2X woods scope helps when you shoot one at 20 feet running dead at you. I remember as a teenager (a long time ago) there was an obnoxious guy in our club who got a Kahles 3x12x50 scope and mounted it on a Remington 742. He bragged about his scope and how he always kept the magnification set at the highest power. Of course, this is the same stupid Sumbitch who managed to run over that rifle with his truck...twice.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
[Re: Bull64]
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12/11/18 05:50 PM
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Sometimes I think you have to give the Alabama redneck his due.There's actually some logic behind the large objective craze.Albeit skewed,it does work to a small degree.Most of us on here realize glass quality and coatings equates in low-light definition and use in a rifle scope.But it also equates to a higher price tag on any given optic.Your basic redneck doesn't have the kind of money it takes to purchase a quality rifle scope;so instead of buying quality glass,he opts for the highest exit-pupil he can achieve.That's obtained on low magnification paired with large objectives.That explains the popularity of the 50 and 56mm objective scopes to me.In a lot of areas in this state,the last 15 minutes of daylight are when you're going to see the most deer activity,on most days,during hunting season.The poor redneck has to adapt,therefore he mounts the Hubble telescope-like,Chinese scope on his Creedmoor Those Alabama Rednecks need to be told going from 40mm to 50mm objective only adds 1-2% brightness and his bloodshot , Redneck eyes can not tell the difference.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
[Re: Big Bore]
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12/11/18 05:57 PM
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What gets me as much as the 50mm plus crowd is the super high power range. Many tote scopes for shots on deer only out to 400 yards tops that are 12 power and up , military snipers don't use scopes as high as some I see listed on Aldeer and their "happy zone" is 1,000 meters.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
[Re: Big Bore]
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12/11/18 06:00 PM
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Whatever you pick, outfit it with these two thoughts:
Speculate Contemplate
There aren’t many of us who haven’t sat there speculating or contemplating then said to ourselves, I think “over there” would be a good spot too. And, many times an opportunity presents itself where you didn’t think it would, which many times is “over there”.
So, You need a rifle that can be right here, and “over there”.
Happy Hunting
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
[Re: 2Dogs]
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12/11/18 06:06 PM
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Sometimes I think you have to give the Alabama redneck his due.There's actually some logic behind the large objective craze.Albeit skewed,it does work to a small degree.Most of us on here realize glass quality and coatings equates in low-light definition and use in a rifle scope.But it also equates to a higher price tag on any given optic.Your basic redneck doesn't have the kind of money it takes to purchase a quality rifle scope;so instead of buying quality glass,he opts for the highest exit-pupil he can achieve.That's obtained on low magnification paired with large objectives.That explains the popularity of the 50 and 56mm objective scopes to me.In a lot of areas in this state,the last 15 minutes of daylight are when you're going to see the most deer activity,on most days,during hunting season.The poor redneck has to adapt,therefore he mounts the Hubble telescope-like,Chinese scope on his Creedmoor Those Alabama Rednecks need to be told going from 40mm to 50mm objective only adds 1-2% brightness and his bloodshot , Redneck eyes can not tell the difference. But by your own admission, I DOES add brightness. You'll never convince said. redneck he's eyes can't see that extra 1-2%
There are two types of gun enthusiasts ... Those who have been F#CKED by PTG and those who will be!
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
[Re: gundoc]
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12/11/18 06:17 PM
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Sometimes I think you have to give the Alabama redneck his due.There's actually some logic behind the large objective craze.Albeit skewed,it does work to a small degree.Most of us on here realize glass quality and coatings equates in low-light definition and use in a rifle scope.But it also equates to a higher price tag on any given optic.Your basic redneck doesn't have the kind of money it takes to purchase a quality rifle scope;so instead of buying quality glass,he opts for the highest exit-pupil he can achieve.That's obtained on low magnification paired with large objectives.That explains the popularity of the 50 and 56mm objective scopes to me.In a lot of areas in this state,the last 15 minutes of daylight are when you're going to see the most deer activity,on most days,during hunting season.The poor redneck has to adapt,therefore he mounts the Hubble telescope-like,Chinese scope on his Creedmoor Those Alabama Rednecks need to be told going from 40mm to 50mm objective only adds 1-2% brightness and his bloodshot , Redneck eyes can not tell the difference. But by your own admission, I DOES add brightness. You'll never convince said. redneck he's eyes can't see that extra 1-2% Yup, Alabama Rednecks are thick headed (not) . BTW, I had a long conversation about objective size, glass quality, 1" tube V 30mm and such with Leuplod engineer a few years ago , very enlightening!
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
[Re: Big Bore]
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12/11/18 09:52 PM
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Personally, I love the "Hubbell" rifle scopes. Yes, I pay a 10-12 oz weight penalty for the 56 mm lens. But, I can shoot hogs on a greenfield with a quarter moon on a clear night, and I can judge a deer at 7 am on a cloudy drizzly morning.
That 15x comes in mighty handy if I have to shoot through a gap, or a long way off, but I can also dial down to 3x for close, dark, or wooded shots.
I'll just buy rifles that are lighter to make up for it.
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
[Re: UncleHuck]
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12/11/18 10:08 PM
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Personally, I love the "Hubbell" rifle scopes. Yes, I pay a 10-12 oz weight penalty for the 56 mm lens. But, I can shoot hogs on a greenfield with a quarter moon on a clear night, and I can judge a deer at 7 am on a cloudy drizzly morning.
That 15x comes in mighty handy if I have to shoot through a gap, or a long way off, but I can also dial down to 3x for close, dark, or wooded shots.
I'll just buy rifles that are lighter to make up for it.
I'll agree here.
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
[Re: 257wbymag]
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12/11/18 10:25 PM
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Personally, I love the "Hubbell" rifle scopes. Yes, I pay a 10-12 oz weight penalty for the 56 mm lens. But, I can shoot hogs on a greenfield with a quarter moon on a clear night, and I can judge a deer at 7 am on a cloudy drizzly morning.
That 15x comes in mighty handy if I have to shoot through a gap, or a long way off, but I can also dial down to 3x for close, dark, or wooded shots.
I'll just buy rifles that are lighter to make up for it.
I'll agree here. Not saying higher magnification or light transmission are not good for some circumstances, but for woods hunting there's absolutely no need for 15x or even 10x magnification. A 3x9x40 is plenty for a 200 or 300 yard shot on a greenfield. For 500 yard pokes on open farmland, yep, 15x or 20 X is nice.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
[Re: Big Bore]
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12/11/18 10:27 PM
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Well my 15x dials down to 3x. I don't hunt woods much. But if I do I can dial it to 3x easily
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Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
[Re: Big Bore]
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12/11/18 11:09 PM
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.257wbymag,
I don’t believe these boys have seen the Z6! So yes. Like .257 said, lots of scopes give low to high options. My longest shot in 40+ years of hunting in Alabama was 395 yards. That’s a long way but I will be the first to admit that if a buck is 100+ yards out, I dial it up!!! So I am a Hubble guy. Bring on the 3x70x100 in the 60mm tube!!!
Hunting brings out the worst in people.
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
[Re: 257wbymag]
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12/12/18 06:18 AM
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Well my 15x dials down to 3x. I don't hunt woods much. But if I do I can dial it to 3x easily My sentiments exactly.
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
[Re: 257wbymag]
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12/12/18 06:34 AM
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Well my 15x dials down to 3x. I don't hunt woods much. But if I do I can dial it to 3x easily I know you understand how to use the dial, but I've met more than one hunter in Alabama who did not. They also have no understanding of magnification and how it affects the exit pupil size and the amount of light transmitted to the eye.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
[Re: JohnnyLoco]
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12/12/18 11:16 AM
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Thats sure might be the winning combo Only thing that would make that better would for it to be chambered in 308 or 358Win. Be a damn fine setup for most of AL.
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
[Re: just_an_illusion]
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12/12/18 12:18 PM
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Thats sure might be the winning combo Only thing that would make that better would for it to be chambered in 308 or 358Win. Be a damn fine setup for most of AL. Nope. Doesn't have a super duper Hubble elite on top.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
[Re: just_an_illusion]
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12/12/18 03:56 PM
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Thats sure might be the winning combo Only thing that would make that better would for it to be chambered in 308 or 358Win. Be a damn fine setup for most of AL. There ain’t nuthin in Alabama that a 22magnum won’t work on, a 243 is more than fine.
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Re: Best All Around Deer Rifle for Alabama
[Re: JohnnyLoco]
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12/14/18 09:20 PM
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Thats sure might be the winning combo Only thing that would make that better would for it to be chambered in 308 or 358Win. Be a damn fine setup for most of AL. There ain’t nuthin in Alabama that a 22magnum won’t work on, a 243 is more than fine. Up here in these hill and hollars I want something thats more apt to dropping one in his tracks. Killed several with a 243 and found them all but I like the chances of a DRT better with a 308. A 358Win ups the anty even more UP HERE.
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