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Model 70 trigger #2644888
11/19/18 02:29 PM
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I bought a model 70 EW in 7mm-08 the end of hunting season last year and went out shooting it yesterday and the trigger pull is heavier than what I prefer. Is there an adjustment for this and if so what's the easiest way to go about adjusting it?

Re: Model 70 trigger [Re: fladeerhntr] #2644897
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Last edited by BCLC; 11/19/18 09:03 PM. Reason: See above ~ I'm an idiot

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Re: Model 70 trigger [Re: fladeerhntr] #2644905
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Timney offers a drop in trigger and there is also a lighter spring kit for model 70's also. I'm putting a timney in my 6.5 prc build if we can't get the trigger down to 2lbs with a new spring


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Re: Model 70 trigger [Re: BCLC] #2645145
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Originally Posted by BCLC
Check out the diagram below. There's 2 different adjustments, one for pull weight and one for overtravel. While you're in there clean all the factory gunk out of the trigger assembly and lightly oil it

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BCLC, I've looked the diagram over and have also been looking at YouTube videos on how to disassemble and adjust the trigger and the only ones I've seen so far just have 2 1/4 inch nuts right over and behind the trigger which is where they're saying to adjust the pull weight at. I am not seeing anything on any of the videos that shows an adjustment screw in front of the trigger like the diagram is showing. My question is depending on the age of the gun were there different designs on the triggers as far as how to adjust them or should they all be the same?

Last edited by fladeerhntr; 11/19/18 07:02 PM.
Re: Model 70 trigger [Re: fladeerhntr] #2645149
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The spring in talking about goes on top of the 2 lock nuts you're dealing with. You will probly only be able to get 3# at best when they're adjusted at least poundage.


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Re: Model 70 trigger [Re: fladeerhntr] #2645151
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Re: Model 70 trigger [Re: fladeerhntr] #2645163
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Watch the YouTube video Mcarbo has. It's very simple to do


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Re: Model 70 trigger [Re: BCLC] #2645260
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Originally Posted by BCLC
Check out the diagram below. There's 2 different adjustments, one for pull weight and one for overtravel. While you're in there clean all the factory gunk out of the trigger assembly and lightly oil it

[Linked Image]



This is not a model 70 trigger diagram


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Re: Model 70 trigger [Re: fladeerhntr] #2645278
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The two nuts on the top side of the trigger adjust the weight. The one in direct contact with the spring is the weight adjustment, the other is just a lock nut. The nut on the bottom of the trigger is the lock nut for the over travel screw.


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Re: Model 70 trigger [Re: fladeerhntr] #2645374
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I'm an idiot. I copy and pasted the wrong diagram. Sorry OP for the misdirection and Gundoc thanks for catching that thumbup


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Re: Model 70 trigger [Re: fladeerhntr] #2645592
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It happens...When I searched for "Model 70 trigger diagram" that same pic popped up as a "Winchester trigger" … I don't know what model it's on though


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Re: Model 70 trigger [Re: fladeerhntr] #2645600
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May be a post 2008 Winchester trigger. The pre 2008 has the jam nut


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Re: Model 70 trigger [Re: BCLC] #2646034
11/20/18 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BCLC
I'm an idiot. I copy and pasted the wrong diagram. Sorry OP for the misdirection and Gundoc thanks for catching that thumbup



Well BCLC, it turns out that you were actually correct on the diagram that you originally posted. I took the gun apart today to back the weight of the trigger off a little and my gun is not the design with the nut and jam nut. It has a very small set screw that is the adjustment for the trigger pull just as your diagram showed.

Re: Model 70 trigger [Re: fladeerhntr] #2646035
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Originally Posted by fladeerhntr
Originally Posted by BCLC
I'm an idiot. I copy and pasted the wrong diagram. Sorry OP for the misdirection and Gundoc thanks for catching that thumbup



Well BCLC, it turns out that you were actually correct on the diagram that you originally posted. I took the gun apart today to back the weight of the trigger off a little and my gun is not the design with the nut and jam nut. It has a very small set screw that is the adjustment for the trigger pull just as your diagram showed.


When was your gun made? That design kinda - KINDA - reminds me of the Browning A Bolt design

Last edited by gundoc; 11/20/18 02:00 PM.

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Re: Model 70 trigger [Re: gundoc] #2646060
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Originally Posted by gundoc
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The two nuts on the top side of the trigger adjust the weight. The one in direct contact with the spring is the weight adjustment, the other is just a lock nut. The nut on the bottom of the trigger is the lock nut for the over travel screw.

Isn't that an old style model 70? They changed them on the new ones. I haven't even seen one yet.

Re: Model 70 trigger [Re: R_H_Clark] #2646066
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Originally Posted by R_H_Clark
Originally Posted by gundoc
[Linked Image]

The two nuts on the top side of the trigger adjust the weight. The one in direct contact with the spring is the weight adjustment, the other is just a lock nut. The nut on the bottom of the trigger is the lock nut for the over travel screw.

Isn't that an old style model 70? They changed them on the new ones. I haven't even seen one yet.


Yes, it is. The newer FN made guns have the "MOA" trigger.

I wasn't aware of that until I researched it a little further.

I haven't had any of the new guns in to work on, so I'd never seen one...

Looks easy to adjust though.


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Re: Model 70 trigger [Re: gundoc] #2646072
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Originally Posted by gundoc
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Originally Posted by gundoc
[Linked Image]

The two nuts on the top side of the trigger adjust the weight. The one in direct contact with the spring is the weight adjustment, the other is just a lock nut. The nut on the bottom of the trigger is the lock nut for the over travel screw.

Isn't that an old style model 70? They changed them on the new ones. I haven't even seen one yet.


Yes, it is. The newer FN made guns have the "MOA" trigger.

I wasn't aware of that until I researched it a little further.

I haven't had any of the new guns in to work on, so I'd never seen one...

Looks easy to adjust though.

Maybe,but I bet it isn't nearly as good as the old trigger.

Re: Model 70 trigger [Re: R_H_Clark] #2646193
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Originally Posted by R_H_Clark
Originally Posted by gundoc
Originally Posted by R_H_Clark
Originally Posted by gundoc
[Linked Image]

The two nuts on the top side of the trigger adjust the weight. The one in direct contact with the spring is the weight adjustment, the other is just a lock nut. The nut on the bottom of the trigger is the lock nut for the over travel screw.

Isn't that an old style model 70? They changed them on the new ones. I haven't even seen one yet.


Yes, it is. The newer FN made guns have the "MOA" trigger.

I wasn't aware of that until I researched it a little further.

I haven't had any of the new guns in to work on, so I'd never seen one...

Looks easy to adjust though.

Maybe,but I bet it isn't nearly as good as the old trigger.

Nope it is not as good as the trigger that Winchester used for over 70 years. FN had to go and fix something that wasn't broken. The old style trigger was as good as it gets for a hunting rifle.


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Nope it is not as good as the trigger that Winchester used for over 70 years. FN had to go and fix something that wasn't broken. The old style trigger was as good as it gets for a hunting rifle.



But it was way too simple and easy to adjust. Engineers and parts manufacturers got to have jobs don't you know?

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Originally Posted by R_H_Clark
Nope it is not as good as the trigger that Winchester used for over 70 years. FN had to go and fix something that wasn't broken. The old style trigger was as good as it gets for a hunting rifle.



But it was way too simple and easy to adjust. Engineers and parts manufacturers got to have jobs don't you know?

The great thing about the old trigger was its simplicity. It was not an enclosed box trigger like the new model, which can trapdust and grime. Not usually a problem in Alabama deer woods, but if on a safari in dusty Africa this can be an issue and why people loved the old style. The old style can't be adjusted nearly as light as some of the aftermarket box triggers without professional work, but they are ultra reliable.


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