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Hog Problem #2637916
11/13/18 09:42 AM
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We have recently become over run with hogs on our land. Trapping no longer works, and shooting them doesn't seem to help. Any recommendations?

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Re: Hog Problem [Re: Cbonner15] #2638024
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Why do suppose the trapping isn't working?
Do you mean, they won't come to traps or you just aren't making a dent with the traps?


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Re: Hog Problem [Re: Cbonner15] #2638070
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Break down and buy the gate and electronics from Elkhunter. Whole sounder trapping is where it's at, they'll definitely get trap shy with smaller traps.


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Re: Hog Problem [Re: Cbonner15] #2638142
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Re: Hog Problem [Re: Out back] #2638225
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We weren’t making a dent with the traps, and now they avoid the traps all together. I don’t have the funds to keep buying traps either. @longshot I’m not sure what you mean by your post.

Re: Hog Problem [Re: Cbonner15] #2638382
11/13/18 03:51 PM
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How much land do you have. If it’s enough I will bring the dogs after deer season. I hunt on the river in Choctaw county. I caught 196 hogs this year in 26 hunts off 3 spots.

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Give me a call if you are interested. 251-428-0374 Caleb Kirkland

Re: Hog Problem [Re: Cbonner15] #2638680
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That means I would be more than happy to come assist you with taking out a few after deer season of coarse


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Re: Hog Problem [Re: Cbonner15] #2638716
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CBonner15 where are you located?

Re: Hog Problem [Re: Cbonner15] #2639781
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Re: Hog Problem [Re: Cbonner15] #2640081
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A good friend of mine catches them with dogs. If you’re interested in having him come catch some, give him a call or text him. His name is Marc Hughes, numbers ‭(850) 454-5464‬. He wouldn’t want money or anything, he just really enjoys catching them and is dang good at it

Re: Hog Problem [Re: Cbonner15] #2640216
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2 options imo. Trap them or get another piece of property. You are going to have to catch the entire Sounders to see a difference.

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You gotta move them traps too. Can't leave them in the same place.
Mix it up.


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Re: Hog Problem [Re: Ben2] #2641960
11/16/18 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Ben2
2 options imo. Trap them or get another piece of property. You are going to have to catch the entire Sounders to see a difference.

False.... You have been drinking to much of Elkhunters koolaid. Lol. I hunt a track of land with dogs that started out loaded with hogs after turkey season to now you have to search far and wide to just find a track. They will move back in between now and the end of turkey season and i will get started again. But its a losing battle either way because to the north of the property is a 5000acre breeding ground that no one hog hunts or traps.

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Originally Posted by BayedUp
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2 options imo. Trap them or get another piece of property. You are going to have to catch the entire Sounders to see a difference.

False.... You have been drinking to much of Elkhunters koolaid. Lol. I hunt a track of land with dogs that started out loaded with hogs after turkey season to now you have to search far and wide to just find a track. They will move back in between now and the end of turkey season and i will get started again. But its a losing battle either way because to the north of the property is a 5000acre breeding ground that no one hog hunts or traps.

I am not drinking anyone's cool aid. The pigs set up shop and stay until manually removed where I hunt. You hunting them and running them with dogs may make them move but we dont want to chase them around we just want to kill them so we trap the entire group. Eventually another group will move in but it is normally a few months before it happens. I am fixing to remove the most recent group from our place and we will be hog free again for a bit

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Originally Posted by Ben2
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2 options imo. Trap them or get another piece of property. You are going to have to catch the entire Sounders to see a difference.

False.... You have been drinking to much of Elkhunters koolaid. Lol. I hunt a track of land with dogs that started out loaded with hogs after turkey season to now you have to search far and wide to just find a track. They will move back in between now and the end of turkey season and i will get started again. But its a losing battle either way because to the north of the property is a 5000acre breeding ground that no one hog hunts or traps.

I am not drinking anyone's cool aid. The pigs set up shop and stay until manually removed where I hunt. You hunting them and running them with dogs may make them move but we dont want to chase them around we just want to kill them so we trap the entire group. Eventually another group will move in but it is normally a few months before it happens. I am fixing to remove the most recent group from our place and we will be hog free again for a bit

Killing 196 in 26 hunts is far from just chasing hogs around. I can do the same thing with dogs in less time as you can with a trap. There is no prebaiting or waiting till the hogs get brave enough to go in a trap. And It doesn’t cost the land owner a few grand for someone with “Good Dogs” to catch them like one of those traps cost. I’m not gonna be like y’all fancy trap guys and claim my way is the only way. Trapping and Dogs are both effective ways to control hog population. Each has there up sides and down sides. It all depends on the way the land owner wants to handle it.

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Originally Posted by BayedUp
Originally Posted by Ben2
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Originally Posted by Ben2
2 options imo. Trap them or get another piece of property. You are going to have to catch the entire Sounders to see a difference.

False.... You have been drinking to much of Elkhunters koolaid. Lol. I hunt a track of land with dogs that started out loaded with hogs after turkey season to now you have to search far and wide to just find a track. They will move back in between now and the end of turkey season and i will get started again. But its a losing battle either way because to the north of the property is a 5000acre breeding ground that no one hog hunts or traps.

I am not drinking anyone's cool aid. The pigs set up shop and stay until manually removed where I hunt. You hunting them and running them with dogs may make them move but we dont want to chase them around we just want to kill them so we trap the entire group. Eventually another group will move in but it is normally a few months before it happens. I am fixing to remove the most recent group from our place and we will be hog free again for a bit

Killing 196 in 26 hunts is far from just chasing hogs around. I can do the same thing with dogs in less time as you can with a trap. There is no prebaiting or waiting till the hogs get brave enough to go in a trap. And It doesn’t cost the land owner a few grand for someone with “Good Dogs” to catch them like one of those traps cost. I’m not gonna be like y’all fancy trap guys and claim my way is the only way. Trapping and Dogs are both effective ways to control hog population. Each has there up sides and down sides. It all depends on the way the land owner wants to handle it.

I have killed every hog on the property except 4 in 5 drops of the gate. That's only 81 but it has not been difficult. The trap takes 2 hrs to set up, it normally takes 4 bags of corn and less than a week to catch. My first drop caught 38 pigs required 2 trips to bait trap and 4 days waiting until the entire group was inside at once. If dogs are that efficient I am greatly impressed. The ones I have seen hunt with dogs (not you obviously) are not that efficient, not quiet and not painless for the hog.

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Re: Hog Problem [Re: Cbonner15] #2642675
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We had some property in plantersville where I nicknamed the hogs "Nomads".
They would show up in late August to September and we'd trap or shoot them through spring.
Then they would completely disappear through the summer, and show up again in September.
Year after year, same routine.


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Re: Hog Problem [Re: Cbonner15] #2644224
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"I can do the same thing with dogs in less time as you can with a trap." I guess the Devil is in the details. In order for this statement to be true you have to be counting the time the trap is set and waiting. In no way will you ever do it in "Less Time" simply counting man hours. But, don't let me get in the way of a good story. LOL


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Re: Hog Problem [Re: Cbonner15] #2644440
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Just so we all understand what I’m saying with my previous comment.

Say you have a group of 10 hogs show up on your property (not swamp land that is loaded with hogs). You have option A or option B.

Option A: You pay $3000 or more for a trap. You go set it up, Prebait it and wait for the hogs to get use to it if they ever get use to it. When the stars all align and they are all in the trap if you can ever get them all in the trap you drop the gate. That may take months for that to happen depending on if the property has ever had much trapping pressure. So not counting bait, gas, or time you are at $300 per hog on price and who knows how long it has been so those sows have now dropped a litter of pigs while all this waiting is going on.

Option B: You call ole Dog hunter Bob down the road to bring his 4 cur dogs and a catch dog to meet you Saturday morning. Saturday morning You pull up to the field they were in last night and turn out and we will say you catch 4 that morning. Then ole dog hunter bob goes to church Sunday but after he gets off work Monday evening and he goes back and catches 3 of the remaining 6. Now just to keep this story fair we will say those last 3 got pressured to much and they disappeared from the property.

Now correct me if I’m wrong but with option A the landowner spends a good bit of money and possibly does a lot of waiting.

Option B on the other hand the landowner only has to pay his phone bill for the month and in less than a week he has 7 dead hogs and 3 Missing in Action.

Don’t get me wrong I know as well as anyone that you can’t just let anybody with dogs loose on your place and expect good results but if you ask around and get a reputable dog man to come hunt your place you will have good results.

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