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Re: Buckshot on National Forest
[Re: Zay334]
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11/14/18 10:54 PM
11/14/18 10:54 PM
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Bull64
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It's legal on all public land except any wma I was written a ticket for said buckshot on a national forest,although it was in the 90's.Did the law change?
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Re: Buckshot on National Forest
[Re: BuckRidge17]
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11/14/18 11:16 PM
11/14/18 11:16 PM
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Posts: 30,910 Clanton, AL
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Grumpy Old Man
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Grumpy Old Man
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I'm pretty sure it still says no dogs or buckshot. Although I don't have a current regulation book handy.
My opinions and comments are my own. They do not reflect the position or political opinions of Aldeer or any of the Aldeer administration.
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Re: Buckshot on National Forest
[Re: Out back]
#2640428
11/15/18 10:30 AM
11/15/18 10:30 AM
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bigcountry692001
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I'm pretty sure it still says no dogs or buckshot. Although I don't have a current regulation book handy. Regulation Book? You mean I have to read, cant I just ask on Facebook
"You cant manage a deer herd with acorns."
-Dr. Craig Harper
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Re: Buckshot on National Forest
[Re: bigcountry692001]
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11/15/18 01:49 PM
11/15/18 01:49 PM
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BuckRidge17
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I'm pretty sure it still says no dogs or buckshot. Although I don't have a current regulation book handy. Regulation Book? You mean I have to read, cant I just ask on Facebook Did read, just cant find where it says it is not legal on NF
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Re: Buckshot on National Forest
[Re: BuckRidge17]
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11/15/18 05:15 PM
11/15/18 05:15 PM
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Hornhntr
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2) DEER: WHEN AND WHERE DOG OR STALK HUNTING IS ALLOWED �
· Rifles using centerfire, mushrooming ammunition.
· Shotguns, 10 gauge or smaller using buckshot, slugs, or single round ball.
· Muzzle-loaders and Black Powder Handguns--.40 caliber or larger, provided further it shall be illegal to possess other firearms while hunting with muzzleloaders during the special muzzleloader season.
· Long bows, compound bows, or crossbows.
· Handguns or pistols using centerfire, mushrooming ammunition.
WHEN AND WHERE STALK HUNTING ONLY IS ALLOWED �
· Same as above, except slugs or single round ball only may be used in shotguns.
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Re: Buckshot on National Forest
[Re: Hornhntr]
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11/15/18 09:50 PM
11/15/18 09:50 PM
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2) DEER: WHEN AND WHERE DOG OR STALK HUNTING IS ALLOWED �
· Rifles using centerfire, mushrooming ammunition.
· Shotguns, 10 gauge or smaller using buckshot, slugs, or single round ball.
· Muzzle-loaders and Black Powder Handguns--.40 caliber or larger, provided further it shall be illegal to possess other firearms while hunting with muzzleloaders during the special muzzleloader season.
· Long bows, compound bows, or crossbows.
· Handguns or pistols using centerfire, mushrooming ammunition.
WHEN AND WHERE STALK HUNTING ONLY IS ALLOWED �
· Same as above, except slugs or single round ball only may be used in shotguns. Where did you quote this from?
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Re: Buckshot on National Forest
[Re: Zay334]
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11/15/18 10:06 PM
11/15/18 10:06 PM
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It's legal on all public land except any wma Wrong Ain’t legal on corps land (public)
There is 2 different high fence. 1 small and one big! Mine was free range in the big pen and was not a breeder buck. Why does it have to be twisted around??
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Re: Buckshot on National Forest
[Re: BuckRidge17]
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11/15/18 10:36 PM
11/15/18 10:36 PM
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Clem
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Call the Montgomery DCNR office at 334-242-3465 and ask for the Law Enforcement Section, and ask them to get the correct answer.
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Re: Buckshot on National Forest
[Re: BuckRidge17]
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11/15/18 10:58 PM
11/15/18 10:58 PM
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Grumpy Old Man
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Below are the notes and regulations (current) pertaining to NF lands and legal arms and ammunition, which clearly says buckshot is legal. And even in areas where dog hunting is prohibited, there's no mention of buckshot at all. So it appears there's either a gross oversight, or they've removed the buckshot restrictions. That which is not illegal, by definition is legal.
SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS: If notes 1, 2 or 3 appear by the county listed, see the special exceptions at the end of this chart. Note (1) relates to dog deer hunting. Note (2) relates to U.S. Corp of Engineers Lands. Note (3) relates to National Forest Service Lands.
(3) U. S. FOREST SERVICE (USFS) (same as open permit for county), except Wildlife Mgmt. Areas – one deer per day. Stalk Hunting Only- No Dogs (except for USFS Lands within Calhoun, Clay & Talladega counties): Same season and dates as open permit-public lands. Calhoun, Clay & Talladega counties - Dog Deer hunting -until 12:00 noon – antlered bucks only: November 18 – November 30 December 18 – January 10 _______________________________________________
(2) DEER: Rifles using centerfire, mushrooming ammunition. Shotguns, 10 gauge or smaller using buckshot, slugs, or single round ball. Air powered guns, .30 caliber or larger. Muzzle-loaders and Black Powder Handguns--.40 caliber or larger. Long bows, compound bows, or crossbows in conformance with 220-2-.03. Handguns or pistols using centerfire, mushrooming ammunition. Hand thrown spear with sharpened blade in conformance with the standards for broadheads in paragraph 2(b) of 220-2-.03.
__________________________________________ 220-2-.112 Dog Deer Hunting (a) It shall be unlawful to cast, release, or otherwise place, a dog, for the purpose of hunting deer, from, upon, or onto, a public right-of-way, without the permission of the landowners whose land adjoins the right- of-way within 50 feet of the location of such dog. (b) It shall be unlawful for any person to utilize a dog for the purpose of deer hunting without the person placing and maintaining on said dog a collar containing the following information clearly stated thereon: the name, address, and telephone number of the person utilizing the dog. _________________________________________________
My opinions and comments are my own. They do not reflect the position or political opinions of Aldeer or any of the Aldeer administration.
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Re: Buckshot on National Forest
[Re: BuckRidge17]
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11/16/18 08:29 AM
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the better question is why would you want to?
We will burn that bridge when we get there
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Re: Buckshot on National Forest
[Re: BuckRidge17]
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11/16/18 12:56 PM
11/16/18 12:56 PM
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Hornhntr
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My question via Facebook messenger(worked pretty good,got a response in about 2hr.) Hello, Could you tell me the reg. For using buckshot on National Forest lands The reply: WE don't have a rule prohibiting it, but that's not our property. They can make their own rules. Contact them here (left side of page): https://www.fs.usda.gov/activity/alabama/recreation/huntingSupervisor's Office Tim Spivey, Acting Forest Supervisor 2946 Chestnut Street Montgomery, Alabama 36107 334-832-4470 334-239-3741(Videophone)
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Re: Buckshot on National Forest
[Re: Hornhntr]
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11/16/18 01:01 PM
11/16/18 01:01 PM
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Grumpy Old Man
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My question via Facebook messenger(worked pretty good,got a response in about 2hr.) Hello, Could you tell me the reg. For using buckshot on National Forest lands The reply: WE don't have a rule prohibiting it, but that's not our property. They can make their own rules. Contact them here (left side of page): https://www.fs.usda.gov/activity/alabama/recreation/huntingSupervisor's Office Tim Spivey, Acting Forest Supervisor 2946 Chestnut Street Montgomery, Alabama 36107 334-832-4470 334-239-3741(Videophone) And when you call them, (the forest service) they will tell you that they don't set the hunting regulations, the state does that. I've already been on that merry go round.
My opinions and comments are my own. They do not reflect the position or political opinions of Aldeer or any of the Aldeer administration.
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Re: Buckshot on National Forest
[Re: Out back]
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11/16/18 01:26 PM
11/16/18 01:26 PM
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Hornhntr
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My question via Facebook messenger(worked pretty good,got a response in about 2hr.) Hello, Could you tell me the reg. For using buckshot on National Forest lands The reply: WE don't have a rule prohibiting it, but that's not our property. They can make their own rules. Contact them here (left side of page): https://www.fs.usda.gov/activity/alabama/recreation/huntingSupervisor's Office Tim Spivey, Acting Forest Supervisor 2946 Chestnut Street Montgomery, Alabama 36107 334-832-4470 334-239-3741(Videophone) And when you call them, (the forest service) they will tell you that they don't set the hunting regulations, the state does that. I've already been on that merry go round. That’s what I figure. I’m not going to call because I don’t hunt NF and sure don’t use buckshot. I just wanted to see if the messenger contact method works. I’m sure they can’t/don’t answer all questions but I think it worked pretty well. Personally I think the social media approach is a good thing.
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