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Re: i gotta different kind of ? about baiting . [Re: jawbone] #2639654
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Originally Posted by jawbone
I'm opposed to baiting but not adamantly opposed. I just don't like the idea because if you can't kill a deer in Alabama every now and then without corn, you probably don't need to be in the woods with a gun.


This is the truth.


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Re: i gotta different kind of ? about baiting . [Re: Frankie] #2639667
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There was a guy who hunted over corn when I was a kid. He got snitched out and ran off. Everybody around here feeds corn nowadays. The stigma is gone. But yes, im saying around here there was a time it was a no no and if it got found out you were baiting, somebody would tell on you in a minute. I dont give a crap one way or the other, Ive got two acres standing, and a feeder in the woods for the shy deer. My deer will not go without corn.

Re: i gotta different kind of ? about baiting . [Re: Remington270] #2639683
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Originally Posted by Remington270
Originally Posted by jwalker77
Too many folks in the woods. I know every one of them has just as much legal right to be there as me. That does not make me feel better. But thats just the way it is nowadays. Cant go back. But I do thank the Lord in heaven for golf and yoga and all that other stuff the slickers like to do, at least that keeps some of them out of the woods.


Yeah, but you're in North Alabama, home to the 10 acre tract. Go south if you want less people. South Alabama is a ghost town in areas. Way less population density....WAY less.



I don't know where the hell you're talking about but it sure isn't anywhere I've ever been in South Alabama! I live here and there's no where left to hunt now where the roads aren't beat down by folks!


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Re: i gotta different kind of ? about baiting . [Re: Frankie] #2639711
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A cousin would invite me to his new piece of land to hunt a couple or three times during the season,, each hunt I was there I never saw nothing bigger than yearling does that still had some faded spots on em or button head bucks,,, when the killing hour came it sounded like a war against the deer was taking place ,,on my cuzz's land you could have heard a pin drop ..

So my cousin goes and talks to his neighbors asks them what's up,,, he was told if you don't have corn out for the deer you ain't going to kill nothing but time... so he joins in and starts bating and I helped him,,, the next time I hunted with him the deer came out of the brush like a stepped on fire ant mound..... we wuz doing all the shooting then... the neighbors came to ask us what was up,,, said they ain't killing nothing ,,my cousin said if you don't have some sweet feed put out for the deer you ain't going to kill nothing but time... rofl Deer love that sweety feed mixture of grains and stuff ,,,I've seen em dang near eat the dirt .

Now that pretty much everyone is putting something out for deer whether by the rules or not, the deer are reaping the rewards. When I see the folks on them hunting shows in Texas killing their deer like they do with corn scattered on the ground how can that be any different than us Alabama boys having to put feed in a trough or feeder to be legal,,, to me it would be more natural than placing it in something man made. over hundred yards rule,,, must not be able to see it ,must be hidden by natural contour of the land or brush … that's fine with me,,, this thing about bating makes the bucks go nocturnal, I ain't worried about that because I really don't focus on bucks until the rut gets close anyhow ,,,hunting pressure puts bucks into night time movement more than anything else. The neighbors are going to kill free ranging deer, that's a fact of deer hunting. No matter if your feeding the deer or not.

Re: i gotta different kind of ? about baiting . [Re: Remington270] #2639746
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Originally Posted by Remington270
Originally Posted by jawbone
I'm opposed to baiting but not adamantly opposed. I just don't like the idea because if you can't kill a deer in Alabama every now and then without corn, you probably don't need to be in the woods with a gun.


Says the guy who lives in Dallas county laugh

Sling shot is all you need there...

Hits like button


Yeah c’mon. Daniel White
Re: i gotta different kind of ? about baiting . [Re: jawbone] #2639796
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Originally Posted by jawbone
I'm opposed to baiting but not adamantly opposed. I just don't like the idea because if you can't kill a deer in Alabama every now and then without corn, you probably don't need to be in the woods with a gun.

Why do you care how someone else hunts?


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Re: i gotta different kind of ? about baiting . [Re: Frankie] #2639957
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Originally Posted by Frankie
we hear and are told ,,,, really a bunch of bs reason why we don't need to bait deer . if they were true and the ones telling them would be against supplement feeding year round .

so whats the real reason for not making baiting legal and still allowing year round supplement feeding ??????

i think the core of the problem is that "most" hunters only feed/bait durning hunting season . when they do this it pulls deer away for the hunters that tie up many thousands of dollars to feed deer and manage year round .

like most times it comes down the bs of some body killing some bodies else deer . lol .



Supplemental feeding has no specific law that makes it legal that I know about. It is legal because the rights of private landowners to manage their land have not yet been completely lost, so you can put out corn on your own land as much as you want. The only legal issue is hunting over it, which is illegal according to the laws of the state. Getting it changed would require an act of the legislature, governor signs it, and then baiting becomes legal. So far, it hasn't happened.

The 100 yds and out of sight rule is a recent interpretation of the definition of the term "area" by the dcnr. As far as I know, the law itself hasn't been changed in decades.


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Re: i gotta different kind of ? about baiting . [Re: Frankie] #2640002
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that i understand . Supplemental feeding is still hunted around and is done to attract and hold deer .

i dont see how baiting is any different . only difference is one is done year round mostly.

my point is , the reason they give against baiting is bs if supplement feeding is allowed .

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Re: i gotta different kind of ? about baiting . [Re: jwalker77] #2640022
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Originally Posted by jwalker77
If liscense sales keep going down I predict the hunting will get better.every tom dick and harry around are hunting these days. Hunting used to be for country folk. Now everybody in the subdivision is hunting too. I know alot of yall are from the subdivision so youre probably pissed right about now. The fact is, around here 30years ago there just werent too many bodies in the woods , on an average day. Now youve got a house every few feet around here, all them guys hunt, and folks are flocking out of the metro areas to the woods. Too many folks in the woods. I know every one of them has just as much legal right to be there as me. That does not make me feel better. But thats just the way it is nowadays. Cant go back. But I do thank the Lord in heaven for golf and yoga and all that other stuff the slickers like to do, at least that keeps some of them out of the woods.


You honestly think everyone that lives in a neighborhood is not country folk? I live in a subdivision in town because its a great environment for my kids and wife, gets my kids in a good school, closer to work, etc. Being country folk has nothing to do where you live and everything to do how you live.

Re: i gotta different kind of ? about baiting . [Re: Frankie] #2640031
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Agree. We live same way.


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Re: i gotta different kind of ? about baiting . [Re: Frankie] #2640037
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Originally Posted by Frankie
poorcountrypreacher

that i understand . Supplemental feeding is still hunted around and is done to attract and hold deer .

i dont see how baiting is any different .


This is reality. GW’s have the final say on determining a hunter’s intent. This was specifically addressed in the FB Q&A...an actual warden went through the whole BS spiel about 100 yards and out of sight, then specifically pointed out that if they believe your feed station is manipulating deer movement to favor your hunting location...that they can cite you anyway...regardless of distance.
That said...ALL supplemental feeding is in fact placed in an effort to manipulate deer movement.

Re: i gotta different kind of ? about baiting . [Re: joshm28] #2640056
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Originally Posted by joshm28
Originally Posted by jwalker77
If liscense sales keep going down I predict the hunting will get better.every tom dick and harry around are hunting these days. Hunting used to be for country folk. Now everybody in the subdivision is hunting too. I know alot of yall are from the subdivision so youre probably pissed right about now. The fact is, around here 30years ago there just werent too many bodies in the woods , on an average day. Now youve got a house every few feet around here, all them guys hunt, and folks are flocking out of the metro areas to the woods. Too many folks in the woods. I know every one of them has just as much legal right to be there as me. That does not make me feel better. But thats just the way it is nowadays. Cant go back. But I do thank the Lord in heaven for golf and yoga and all that other stuff the slickers like to do, at least that keeps some of them out of the woods.


Being country folk has nothing to do where you live and everything to do how you live.
How can you live country if you don't LIVE in the country?


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Re: i gotta different kind of ? about baiting . [Re: Frankie] #2640074
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Originally Posted by Ike McCaslin
Originally Posted by Frankie
poorcountrypreacher

that i understand . Supplemental feeding is still hunted around and is done to attract and hold deer .

i dont see how baiting is any different .


This is reality. GW’s have the final say on determining a hunter’s intent. This was specifically addressed in the FB Q&A...an actual warden went through the whole BS spiel about 100 yards and out of sight, then specifically pointed out that if they believe your feed station is manipulating deer movement to favor your hunting location...that they can cite you anyway...regardless of distance.
That said...ALL supplemental feeding is in fact placed in an effort to manipulate deer movement.


Commissioner Guy first stated that you may "shoot deer on trails leading to a feeder" but it was a different story when the regulation was revealed smh. That would've have taken care of that bs, so he deserves some of the blame himself


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Re: i gotta different kind of ? about baiting . [Re: MattIce] #2640076
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Originally Posted by MattIce
Originally Posted by joshm28
Originally Posted by jwalker77
If liscense sales keep going down I predict the hunting will get better.every tom dick and harry around are hunting these days. Hunting used to be for country folk. Now everybody in the subdivision is hunting too. I know alot of yall are from the subdivision so youre probably pissed right about now. The fact is, around here 30years ago there just werent too many bodies in the woods , on an average day. Now youve got a house every few feet around here, all them guys hunt, and folks are flocking out of the metro areas to the woods. Too many folks in the woods. I know every one of them has just as much legal right to be there as me. That does not make me feel better. But thats just the way it is nowadays. Cant go back. But I do thank the Lord in heaven for golf and yoga and all that other stuff the slickers like to do, at least that keeps some of them out of the woods.


Being country folk has nothing to do where you live and everything to do how you live.
How can you live country if you don't LIVE in the country?


Sitting around a fire pit in the back yard on the weekends, growing a garden on our family land 15 minutes from the house. Owning 3 tractors, more implements than I can count, several dirt bikes and a side x side. I shoot my bow and pee off the back porch. I'd rather own or rebuild an old piece of equipment vs buying new. We put vegetables in the freezer in the summer and wild game in the freezer during the fall/winter. Ride by the house several times a month and you will see my smoker going. I reload close to a 1000 rounds a year on my loading bench in the basement. I could keep going if you want me to.

Just because I live in a nice subdivision doesn't mean I am a city boy. I choose to live here for the convenience and because it offers a better life for my kids and wife and our friends are close. Some of our friends are true blue city dwellers. I spent Saturday night at the country club eating dinner but I spent Friday and Sunday afternoon sitting in a tree stand.

Again, being country has nothing to do where you live and EVERYTHING to do with how you live.

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Re: i gotta different kind of ? about baiting . [Re: Frankie] #2640086
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I oversee operations on roughly 50,000 acres of row crop ground up here in N bama. I'm involved with lots of desicions with my core group of farmers. I bust my hands working on planters and my truck stays a mess. My kids know how to set a planter, drive a tractor and kill deer. But I live in a city of 60,000 folks. My kids walk to school down the road. We have neighbors on our street. But they're our friends. Don't tell me you gotta live in the country to be country. I'll forget more "country" than most folks will ever know about "country"


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Re: i gotta different kind of ? about baiting . [Re: therealhojo] #2640130
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any body that gives a reason against baiting and believes supplement feeding is ok . they reason "they" give against baiting is the same reasons they should be against supplement feeding . why i call bs on it .

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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
I oversee operations on roughly 50,000 acres of row crop ground up here in N bama. I'm involved with lots of desicions with my core group of farmers. I bust my hands working on planters and my truck stays a mess. My kids know how to set a planter, drive a tractor and kill deer. But I live in a city of 60,000 folks. My kids walk to school down the road. We have neighbors on our street. But they're our friends. Don't tell me you gotta live in the country to be country. I'll forget more "country" than most folks will ever know about "country"




taint nothing nothing like country living . fore long i'll be back to doing it .

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