we hear and are told ,,,, really a bunch of bs reason why we don't need to bait deer . if they were true and the ones telling them would be against supplement feeding year round .

so whats the real reason for not making baiting legal and still allowing year round supplement feeding ??????

i think the core of the problem is that "most" hunters only feed/bait durning hunting season . when they do this it pulls deer away for the hunters that tie up many thousands of dollars to feed deer and manage year round .

like most times it comes down the bs of some body killing some bodies else deer . lol .

I don’t understand it either Frankie. I did have some “professional help” in where we could put feeders and be legal though. We run ours 8- 9 months out of the year. (July to March). There’s plenty of food in the woods those other months. Actually there is plenty of food year round but the feeders keep the deer from wandering too far off.

The only way you can be FOR "supplemental feeding" and, simultaneously, AGAINST "baiting" is if you view it as a moral issue (of shooting an animal over bait).

ethics and morals have no place in management ,,, imo !!!

Sir, you live in the state of Alabama. Everything revolves around money. Year round supplemental feeding while baiting is illegal creates or has the probability to create more money flow and tax dollars. It allows game wardens to still write hunting over bait tickets at their own discretion. The only real care the state has about our natural resources is that they were able to make it a billion dollar revenue to disperse it in economic areas that were lacking. Hence why you are seeing season extensions and yada yada. The state is going to have to do something soon though because license sales are down and the hunting is no where near what it use to be.

Ethics and morals have a place in every aspect of society. If ethics aren't in play, can I run a corn feeder and then dynamite the deer? Same result of dead deer.

People genuinely think that it's "wrong" (unethical and immoral) to entice a deer to a spot and kill it. That's why it's illegal, according to state law.

i am well aware of the good ole boyism in bama lol

I'm opposed to baiting but not adamantly opposed. I just don't like the idea because if you can't kill a deer in Alabama every now and then without corn, you probably don't need to be in the woods with a gun.

Says the guy who lives in Dallas county

Sling shot is all you need there...

If liscense sales keep going down I predict the hunting will get better.every tom dick and harry around are hunting these days. Hunting used to be for country folk. Now everybody in the subdivision is hunting too. I know alot of yall are from the subdivision so youre probably pissed right about now. The fact is, around here 30years ago there just werent too many bodies in the woods , on an average day. Now youve got a house every few feet around here, all them guys hunt, and folks are flocking out of the metro areas to the woods. Too many folks in the woods. I know every one of them has just as much legal right to be there as me. That does not make me feel better. But thats just the way it is nowadays. Cant go back. But I do thank the Lord in heaven for golf and yoga and all that other stuff the slickers like to do, at least that keeps some of them out of the woods.

Yeah, but you're in North Alabama, home to the 10 acre tract. Go south if you want less people. South Alabama is a ghost town in areas. Way less population density....WAY less.

I'll take 10 acre tracts over poverty any day.

that is flawed thinking since green fields are legal .

the other part is just a red heron . lol

by law you're suppose make a reasonable attempt to recover the deer . dynamite would make almost impossible .

Well The Good Lord had to bless us with something to make living with a bunch of thieves, politicians included.

Really it is simple according to how our GW and judges (more importantly) interpret it. Forget about 100 yards and out of sight. If you put corn out in order to draw deer to it in order to shoot the deer it is baiting at baiting is still illegal. They say 100 yards and out of sight is supplemental feeding, which does NOT involve shooting at the deer that come to it. Chuck just confuses people everytime he opens his mouth. To be clear, he does not make the laws nor does he interpret them no matter what he thinks.

License sales are down but that doesn't necessarily mean there are less people in the woods hunting. I would say in some areas at least, more people than ever are hunting..... but without buying a license. When you only have 1 gw per county and some wardens covering multiple counties, and said wardens are more concerned with chasing corn piles than catching poachers (not to mention the joke of a reporting system we have) it lends itself to a lot of folks just slipping and hunting and not buying a license. At least here in my area i know a ton of people dont buy a license.

I just long for the good old days and they are getting farther away all the time. Back then there wasnt any "deer farms" and pouring corn on the ground was a no no. Heck, you hardly ever even saw a shooting house. All this controversy over baiting didnt exist, baiting was baiting. I reckon thers no way to go but forward.

i have not viewed that latest surevy , but last i did look DEER HUNTERS numbers have not dropped . the number drops were in small game hunters .

https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2018/demo/fhw-16-nat.html.

It hasn’t been too long ago that there weren’t any deer where I’m from. Zero. Maybe 50 years.

i was 13 before i saw a deer on our land in elmore county . 45 years ago ,,, about .
i can't have a garden without a electric fence now

Are you saying that nobody or very few people in AL were corning deer 30 years ago? Just as bad if not worse then, than now. Hunting over corn is and has been a way of life in Alabama, MS, LA, FL and is passed down generation to generation. Just ask Troy if he made any bait cases back when he was an active GW. I've hunted in Bama since the 70's and baiting dang sure occurred back then too. Heck we had a lease in Choctaw County back in the 80's and an outfitter adjoining us used to bring in cob corn by the dump truck load middle of the season.