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Re: “Area Definition” What...?
[Re: RCHRR]
#2639450
11/14/18 03:45 PM
11/14/18 03:45 PM
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Chelsea, AL
straycat
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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Chelsea, AL
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I'm naturally clumsy, so I spill my snacks of sugar cubes, Clorox, apple slices, and molasses all the way from truck to stand...accidentally on purpose.
"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever." Isaiah 40:8
"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt.� Samuel Adams
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Re: “Area Definition” What...?
[Re: GKelly]
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11/14/18 03:51 PM
11/14/18 03:51 PM
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Elmore County
Frankie
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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Elmore County
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hasnt it been 100 yards and out of line of sight for the past several years? no , it aint that simple.
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Re: “Area Definition” What...?
[Re: RCHRR]
#2639480
11/14/18 04:08 PM
11/14/18 04:08 PM
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Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 42,058
UR 6
top cat
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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Posts: 42,058
UR 6
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Then what is it....................
LUCK:::; When presistence, dedication, perspiration and preparation meet up with opportunity!!!
- - - - - - - -A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have. Thomas Jeferson - - - - - - - -
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Re: “Area Definition” What...?
[Re: GKelly]
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11/14/18 04:16 PM
11/14/18 04:16 PM
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Joined: Jun 2014
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Shelby Co, AL
CatHeadBiscuit
14 point
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14 point
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Posts: 6,889
Shelby Co, AL
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hasnt it been 100 yards and out of line of sight for the past several years? Nice avatar
"Arguing on the internet is like playing chess with a pigeon. You may be good at chess, but the pigeon is just going to knock all the pieces down, take a crap on the table, and strut around like its victorious."--Anonymous
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Re: “Area Definition” What...?
[Re: CatHeadBiscuit]
#2639493
11/14/18 04:19 PM
11/14/18 04:19 PM
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Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 20,073
Northport, AL
GomerPyle
Impatient Stinky Britches Wearin’ Off-Roadin’ Guru
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hasnt it been 100 yards and out of line of sight for the past several years? Nice avatar lol, that's strong
There are 3 certainties in an uncertain world:
1. All Politicians Are Liars
2. All Gun Laws Are an Infringement
3. Taxation Is Theft
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Re: “Area Definition” What...?
[Re: GKelly]
#2639495
11/14/18 04:22 PM
11/14/18 04:22 PM
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Posts: 13,048
Montgomery, Alabama
jaredhunts
Puts sugar in his cornbread!
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Puts sugar in his cornbread!
Joined: Nov 2014
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Montgomery, Alabama
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hasnt it been 100 yards and out of line of sight for the past several years? Hey, you have a message.
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Re: “Area Definition” What...?
[Re: top cat]
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11/14/18 04:42 PM
11/14/18 04:42 PM
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Posts: 15,830
Elmore County
Frankie
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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Then what is it.................... ask the GW if you meet him,,,, best answer i can give since he has final say .
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Re: “Area Definition” What...?
[Re: RCHRR]
#2639535
11/14/18 05:02 PM
11/14/18 05:02 PM
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Posts: 1,361
mman
8 point
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8 point
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220-2-.157 Definition of Area Regulation
For the purposes of Section 9-11-244, Code of Alabama 1975, and Rule 220-2-.11, Alabama Administrative Code, as it applies to the hunting of deer and feral swine, there shall be a rebuttable presumption that any bait or feed (as defined in Section 9-11-244) located beyond 100 yards from the hunter and not within the line of sight of the hunter, is not a lure, attraction or enticement to, on or over the area where the hunter is attempting to kill or take the deer or feral swine. For the purpose of this regulation, “not within the line of sight” means being hidden from view by natural vegetation or naturally occurring terrain features. This regulation shall not apply on public lands.
If words have meaning, which apparently they DON'T, it should be a rebuttable presumption that ANY BAIT or FEED (notice the word "bait") located beyond 100 yards from the hunter and not within the line of sight is NOT a lure, attraction, or enticement to, on or over the AREA where the HUNTER is attempting to kill or take the deer...
So, you can bait, but you can't hunt in the area. You are not in the area if it is 100+ yards away and you can't see it.
The problem comes in when some Dudly Doright Greenjeans doesn't like the Reg and decides to enforce it the way he wants it to read instead of what it actually says. Either enforce the regulation the way it is written, make baiting legal, or make all supplemental feeding/baiting of deer illegal.
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Re: “Area Definition” What...?
[Re: straycat]
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11/14/18 05:12 PM
11/14/18 05:12 PM
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Posts: 2,277
Alabama
gcr0003
8 point
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8 point
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 2,277
Alabama
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I'm naturally clumsy, so I spill my snacks of sugar cubes, Clorox, apple slices, and molasses all the way from truck to stand...accidentally on purpose. I sat in a tree stand all day a few hunts back and brought three huge fuji apples with me for snacks. Is it illegal to toss those suckers 15 yards out in front of me once im done eating em?
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Re: “Area Definition” What...?
[Re: mman]
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11/14/18 05:21 PM
11/14/18 05:21 PM
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Posts: 34,392
Boxes Cove
2Dogs
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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Boxes Cove
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220-2-.157 Definition of Area Regulation
For the purposes of Section 9-11-244, Code of Alabama 1975, and Rule 220-2-.11, Alabama Administrative Code, as it applies to the hunting of deer and feral swine, there shall be a rebuttable presumption that any bait or feed (as defined in Section 9-11-244) located beyond 100 yards from the hunter and not within the line of sight of the hunter, is not a lure, attraction or enticement to, on or over the area where the hunter is attempting to kill or take the deer or feral swine. For the purpose of this regulation, “not within the line of sight” means being hidden from view by natural vegetation or naturally occurring terrain features. This regulation shall not apply on public lands.
If words have meaning, which apparently they DON'T, it should be a rebuttable presumption that ANY BAIT or FEED (notice the word "bait") located beyond 100 yards from the hunter and not within the line of sight is NOT a lure, attraction, or enticement to, on or over the AREA where the HUNTER is attempting to kill or take the deer...
So, you can bait, but you can't hunt in the area. You are not in the area if it is 100+ yards away and you can't see it.
The problem comes in when some Dudly Doright Greenjeans doesn't like the Reg and decides to enforce it the way he wants it to read instead of what it actually says. Either enforce the regulation the way it is written, make baiting legal, or make all supplemental feeding/baiting of deer illegal.
Dudly Doright Greenjean's boss, Chuck Sykes has stated in public, he DOES NOT have an officer ( including Dudly), that can read a deer's mind and the law is as written, 100 yards and out of sight .
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: “Area Definition” What...?
[Re: 2Dogs]
#2639564
11/14/18 05:25 PM
11/14/18 05:25 PM
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Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 20,073
Northport, AL
GomerPyle
Impatient Stinky Britches Wearin’ Off-Roadin’ Guru
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Impatient Stinky Britches Wearin’ Off-Roadin’ Guru
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 20,073
Northport, AL
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220-2-.157 Definition of Area Regulation
For the purposes of Section 9-11-244, Code of Alabama 1975, and Rule 220-2-.11, Alabama Administrative Code, as it applies to the hunting of deer and feral swine, there shall be a rebuttable presumption that any bait or feed (as defined in Section 9-11-244) located beyond 100 yards from the hunter and not within the line of sight of the hunter, is not a lure, attraction or enticement to, on or over the area where the hunter is attempting to kill or take the deer or feral swine. For the purpose of this regulation, “not within the line of sight” means being hidden from view by natural vegetation or naturally occurring terrain features. This regulation shall not apply on public lands.
If words have meaning, which apparently they DON'T, it should be a rebuttable presumption that ANY BAIT or FEED (notice the word "bait") located beyond 100 yards from the hunter and not within the line of sight is NOT a lure, attraction, or enticement to, on or over the AREA where the HUNTER is attempting to kill or take the deer...
So, you can bait, but you can't hunt in the area. You are not in the area if it is 100+ yards away and you can't see it.
The problem comes in when some Dudly Doright Greenjeans doesn't like the Reg and decides to enforce it the way he wants it to read instead of what it actually says. Either enforce the regulation the way it is written, make baiting legal, or make all supplemental feeding/baiting of deer illegal.
Dudly Doright Greenjean's boss, Chuck Sykes has stated in public, he DOES NOT have an officer ( including Dudly), that can read a deer's mind and the law is as written, 100 yards and out of sight . Well then maybe Chucky needs to have a come-to-Jesus meeting with all of his Dudly Doright's, since a lot of people have been told, directly by a GW, that it's open to "interpretation" based on the individual situation.
There are 3 certainties in an uncertain world:
1. All Politicians Are Liars
2. All Gun Laws Are an Infringement
3. Taxation Is Theft
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Re: “Area Definition” What...?
[Re: GomerPyle]
#2639580
11/14/18 05:38 PM
11/14/18 05:38 PM
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Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 34,392
Boxes Cove
2Dogs
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 34,392
Boxes Cove
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220-2-.157 Definition of Area Regulation
For the purposes of Section 9-11-244, Code of Alabama 1975, and Rule 220-2-.11, Alabama Administrative Code, as it applies to the hunting of deer and feral swine, there shall be a rebuttable presumption that any bait or feed (as defined in Section 9-11-244) located beyond 100 yards from the hunter and not within the line of sight of the hunter, is not a lure, attraction or enticement to, on or over the area where the hunter is attempting to kill or take the deer or feral swine. For the purpose of this regulation, “not within the line of sight” means being hidden from view by natural vegetation or naturally occurring terrain features. This regulation shall not apply on public lands.
If words have meaning, which apparently they DON'T, it should be a rebuttable presumption that ANY BAIT or FEED (notice the word "bait") located beyond 100 yards from the hunter and not within the line of sight is NOT a lure, attraction, or enticement to, on or over the AREA where the HUNTER is attempting to kill or take the deer...
So, you can bait, but you can't hunt in the area. You are not in the area if it is 100+ yards away and you can't see it.
The problem comes in when some Dudly Doright Greenjeans doesn't like the Reg and decides to enforce it the way he wants it to read instead of what it actually says. Either enforce the regulation the way it is written, make baiting legal, or make all supplemental feeding/baiting of deer illegal.
Dudly Doright Greenjean's boss, Chuck Sykes has stated in public, he DOES NOT have an officer ( including Dudly), that can read a deer's mind and the law is as written, 100 yards and out of sight . Well then maybe Chucky needs to have a come-to-Jesus meeting with all of his Dudly Doright's, since a lot of people have been told, directly by a GW, that it's open to "interpretation" based on the individual situation. Gomer, when Dudly busts you , and you are legal as written ( over 100 yards and out of line of sight) have your day in court and subpoena Chucky. You can bet $ they'll all get the come -to- Jesus memo then.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: “Area Definition” What...?
[Re: RCHRR]
#2639586
11/14/18 05:44 PM
11/14/18 05:44 PM
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Posts: 15,830
Elmore County
Frankie
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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Elmore County
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i can think of several setups to where you could be 100yrd away and out of sight and i beat most if not all GW's will give you a ticket .
i have no problem with GW's but they should not have the power to "make" law .
Last edited by Frankie; 11/14/18 05:46 PM.
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Re: “Area Definition” What...?
[Re: RCHRR]
#2639704
11/14/18 07:09 PM
11/14/18 07:09 PM
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Posts: 3,494
Jefferson
Fun4all
10 point
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10 point
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Posts: 3,494
Jefferson
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Bait sitting in the a bushy patch hidden from sight in a cutover 200 yards away and a deer is walking up to eat it or is eating it meets the letter of the law but is still baiting. The Mr. Greenjeans y'all refer to has you red handed for baiting because that is "on or over the area where the hunter is attempting to kill or take the deer or feral swine". Just food for thought, you can discuss it with Mr. Greenjeans.
"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
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