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Euro/skull mounting #2638020
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The guy who has been doing our European mounts over the last few years isn't going to do them this year. Anybody out there in south Alabama/north Florida doing them? We have one ready to go.

Re: Euro/skull mounting [Re: PastorJack] #2638022
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just learn to do it yourself it's super easy


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Originally Posted by Beadlescomb
just learn to do it yourself it's super easy


Super easy but requires time that I could be using to hunt or fish... grin But I still do mine when I ever get around to it.

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Originally Posted by hitek
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just learn to do it yourself it's super easy


Super easy but requires time that I could be using to hunt or fish... grin But I still do mine when I ever get around to it.


it really doesnt


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Beadlescomb, I have done it myself, but they don't come out as clean as the Beetle cleaned ones... I should have been more specific. I'm really looking for the beetle service to do it. thanks for the comments, guys.

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Beadlescomb, I have done it myself, but they don't come out as clean as the Beetle cleaned ones... I should have been more specific. I'm really looking for the beetle service to do it. thanks for the comments, guys.

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Skin and boil then pressure wash. Change water add a couple bottle of peroxide and boil 30 more minutes not letting it get on horns. Best way I’ve found and I like the skull to be Snow White.


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Originally Posted by Beadlescomb
just learn to do it yourself it's super easy


How do you do yours? I've got one from last year that I'm going to do, maybe this weekend, to practice on. My plan was to skin it out and remove as much flesh as possible with a knife, then boil it for 5 or 6 hours (or until the meat's fallen off) in water with some borax mixed in. I'm still undecided as to whether I'll leave it the natural color or hit the skull with some peroxide to whiten it.

Is that about it, or are there extra steps you do?


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Re: Euro/skull mounting [Re: PastorJack] #2638355
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I got a related question....besides throwing them away, what’s the best fix for rotten heads that I don’t want to touch. Lightning struck my house and fried my freezer that had 3-4 deer heads and 2 turkeys and a bunch of deer livers and feet and turkey beards and feet. Didn’t know it wasn’t working for months. It’s so rank I don’t want to do anything but take the freezer to the dump, but I sure would like those heads European mounted. Should I just sling them in the woods somewhere and let nature work them over? Should I wrap the antlers in something to keep rodents from chewing them up?

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Originally Posted by foldemup
I got a related question....besides throwing them away, what’s the best fix for rotten heads that I don’t want to touch. Lightning struck my house and fried my freezer that had 3-4 deer heads and 2 turkeys and a bunch of deer livers and feet and turkey beards and feet. Didn’t know it wasn’t working for months. It’s so rank I don’t want to do anything but take the freezer to the dump, but I sure would like those heads European mounted. Should I just sling them in the woods somewhere and let nature work them over? Should I wrap the antlers in something to keep rodents from chewing them up?



Put them in the woods but cover them with chicken wire and stake it down really well or the squirrels will gnaw them to hell and back. Or, find and good fire ant bed, kick the top off and set it on there, then cover it with something like a plastic tote with a cinderblock on top to keep something from stealing it.


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Re: Euro/skull mounting [Re: Beadlescomb] #2638373
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Originally Posted by Beadlescomb
Originally Posted by hitek
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just learn to do it yourself it's super easy


Super easy but requires time that I could be using to hunt or fish... grin But I still do mine when I ever get around to it.


it really doesnt


I need to hear more about this method that does not require any time.

Re: Euro/skull mounting [Re: PastorJack] #2638398
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Who were you using? And where are you located?

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I hate your freezer went out foldemup. I would probably hold my breath get my deer heads out and put them straight in a big pot of boiling water. Maybe after all that nasty meat cooks a little while it won’t smell so bad when your cleaning it off.



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I did like gomer said. I put my on an ant pile with a tote over the top and staked the sides down and threw a brick on top. The one I had wasn't skinned out or anything. It took about 2 months for it to be cleaned up enough to boil.

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Originally Posted by foldemup
I got a related question....besides throwing them away, what’s the best fix for rotten heads that I don’t want to touch. Lightning struck my house and fried my freezer that had 3-4 deer heads and 2 turkeys and a bunch of deer livers and feet and turkey beards and feet. Didn’t know it wasn’t working for months. It’s so rank I don’t want to do anything but take the freezer to the dump, but I sure would like those heads European mounted. Should I just sling them in the woods somewhere and let nature work them over? Should I wrap the antlers in something to keep rodents from chewing them up?


You're gonna just have to put some Vick's VapoRub under your nose, pull them mofos out, then put them straight into a pot of boiling water. Smell should subside once they're getting cooked down.

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Put them in a bucket of water and pull them out clean in april. Then peroxide to whiten

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It is pretty easy to do. Just watch some you tube videos on it.

Biggest mistake I made the first time was cooking it to long and submerging the antlers. The fat darkened up the antler bases.

The skull can get soft if you cook it to much.

Pressure washed the meat away and be careful with the peroxide. Don't get any on the antlers.

Takes a few hours. Much easier than I thought it would be.

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Re: Euro/skull mounting [Re: hitek] #2638628
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Originally Posted by hitek
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Originally Posted by hitek
Originally Posted by Beadlescomb
just learn to do it yourself it's super easy


Super easy but requires time that I could be using to hunt or fish... grin But I still do mine when I ever get around to it.


it really doesnt


I need to hear more about this method that does not require any time.


bucket of water with an aquarium heater. they make a thing called a buck boiler


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Originally Posted by GomerPyle
Originally Posted by Beadlescomb
just learn to do it yourself it's super easy


How do you do yours? I've got one from last year that I'm going to do, maybe this weekend, to practice on. My plan was to skin it out and remove as much flesh as possible with a knife, then boil it for 5 or 6 hours (or until the meat's fallen off) in water with some borax mixed in. I'm still undecided as to whether I'll leave it the natural color or hit the skull with some peroxide to whiten it.

Is that about it, or are there extra steps you do?


that's pretty much it but I paint mine with kilz


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Got a guy here in Cantonment, that does awesome Euro's. He uses beetles. PM me if you want more info.

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Jamesm1976, I was using Chad Cherry. Before that I sent them to a guy in Wisconsin.

Tightline, I will pm you.

Got one lead on someone named Vanderpol.... gonna keep investigating.

Thanks everyone

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I boil, clean off the meat with a pressure washer and then put in a large plastic tub with an aquarium heater to the highest heat setting. Add about a 1/4 cup of dish soap. Let that sucker sit, for months.

Change the water every few weeks or however long. Replace dish soap too. The further you get into it, the less you need to change the water.

It won't really have much smell until you pull it out of the water. When you can pull it up and the smell is like that of dish soap it is done. Peroxide it if you want.

Could take 3 months, could take 10 months depending on how clean you get it up front, but its very low maintenance.


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I got a local guy that'll do it for $45. Not worth me fooling with it.

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Originally Posted by blumsden
I got a local guy that'll do it for $45. Not worth me fooling with it.


That’s a heck of a deal. $ 20 for propane and peroxide and at least 3 hrs time that fellow ain’t making minimum wage. I have to turn them away at 125.


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Jamesm1976, I was using Chad Cherry. Before that I sent them to a guy in Wisconsin.

Tightline, I will pm you.

Got one lead on someone named Vanderpol.... gonna keep investigating.

Thanks everyone



I am in Pensacola and use a guy 5 minutes north of Brewton. $70 and he does fantastic work. I can get you his number if you want.

I've also seen signs on Chumuckla Highway just north of Chumuckla for a guy that has opened shop doing skull mounts. I don't know the cost or have his contact.

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Originally Posted by ridgestalker

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I got a local guy that'll do it for $45. Not worth me fooling with it.


That’s a heck of a deal. $ 20 for propane and peroxide and at least 3 hrs time that fellow ain’t making minimum wage. I have to turn them away at 125.

He has a huge vat that he does 20 at a time. Boils them 2 hours, high pressure sprays them, then peroxide.

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follow-up question....I plan to boil it in water with some borax mixed in...............do I need to wrap the base of the antlers in anything or will they be ok? If so, what?


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I use dawn in the first boil.


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Originally Posted by ridgestalker
I use dawn in the first boil.

This^^^^^ to degrease the skull.


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What type peroxide do most hunters use to scull mount deer.
I have scull mounted my last 3 bucks that I killed. I normally
Keep them In my old freezer until it starts getting warmer.
Then I put them in a ant bed until the ants do most of the work.
Of course I put a wire cage around them were the animals won't
tote them off. After they get most of the meat off them ,then I pour
Peroxide all over them and it eats away any remaining flesh or hair.
I have always used normal 3 percent peroxide, but my cousin who is
starting his own taxidermy said you can buy a lot stronger peroxide from
a beauty salon, I don't know but I'm gonna look into it. He said it speeds
Up the process and makes the scull mount look alot better.

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What type peroxide do most hunters use to scull mount deer.
I have scull mounted my last 3 bucks that I killed. I normally
Keep them In my old freezer until it starts getting warmer.
Then I put them in a ant bed until the ants do most of the work.
Of course I put a wire cage around them were the animals won't
tote them off. After they get most of the meat off them ,then I pour
Peroxide all over them and it eats away any remaining flesh or hair.
I have always used normal 3 percent peroxide, but my cousin who is
starting his own taxidermy said you can buy a lot stronger peroxide from
a beauty salon, I don't know but I'm gonna look into it. He said it speeds
Up the process and makes the scull mount look alot better.

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Vanderpool does good work. He's a taxidermist. Chad Cherry, I've seen his on forums, but not in person. Pistol Martin is full time professional euro-dermist. (how you like that one). He does euros from all over the country. Gets lots of local taxidermists work sent to him. I've seen some unreal mounts at his place. All kinds of critters too.
The reason I prefer using beetles is, they come out white. No yellow tint. Boiling pulls the oils to the surface. I know some will disagree, but that's my preference.

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Originally Posted by Turkeyjery1
What type peroxide do most hunters use to scull mount deer.
I have scull mounted my last 3 bucks that I killed. I normally
Keep them In my old freezer until it starts getting warmer.
Then I put them in a ant bed until the ants do most of the work.
Of course I put a wire cage around them were the animals won't
tote them off. After they get most of the meat off them ,then I pour
Peroxide all over them and it eats away any remaining flesh or hair.
I have always used normal 3 percent peroxide, but my cousin who is
starting his own taxidermy said you can buy a lot stronger peroxide from
a beauty salon, I don't know but I'm gonna look into it. He said it speeds
Up the process and makes the scull mount look alot better.

I use 40% peroxide from the Local Beauty Shop Supply.










Re: Euro/skull mounting [Re: PastorJack] #2640238
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I picked up my grandson's 9pt European mount yesterday and it looks good, only charged $40.

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Originally Posted by Turkeyjery1
What type peroxide do most hunters use to scull mount deer.


i do my boil with dawn blue dishwashing liquid & baking soda ... the peroxide i use is from Sally Beauty Supply & it's the 40 volume developer; i don't boil with this but i use a squirt bottle & totally cover the skull, wrap in a couple plastic grocery bags, and let is set/develop overnight ... usually by the morning, it's perfectly white ... i brush on some Mop-N-Glo & i'm done ...

pics of several i've done

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Re: Euro/skull mounting [Re: Beadlescomb] #2640460
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Originally Posted by Beadlescomb
bucket of water with an aquarium heater. they make a thing called a buck boiler
Dang right. Piss on all of that cooking and crap. Way too much hassle. I don't even use an aquarium heater myself. I skin them when they are fresh, put them in the freezer, and when the weather starts breaking warm in the spring....I put em in a bucket of water with holes drilled in it that allows the water to drain out if the water level gets too high up on the antlers (which will stain them dark). In about 6 weeks, pull it out and rinse it off with a garden hose and then put it in fresh water with lots of dawn (for final degreasing) for about two more weeks. Voila, ready for whitening and clean as a whistle. Easy, peasy.

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Re: Euro/skull mounting [Re: JUGHEAD] #2640465
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Originally Posted by JUGHEAD
Originally Posted by Beadlescomb
bucket of water with an aquarium heater. they make a thing called a buck boiler
Dang right. Piss on all of that cooking and crap. Way too much hassle. I don't even use an aquarium heater myself. I skin them when they are fresh, put them in the freezer, and when the weather starts breaking warm in the spring....I put em in a bucket of water with holes drilled in it that allows the water to drain out if the water level gets too high up on the antlers (which will stain them dark). In about 6 weeks, pull it out and rinse it off with a garden hose and then put it in fresh water with lots of dawn (for final degreasing) for about two more weeks. Voila, ready for whitening and clean as a whistle. Easy, peasy.


sounds great - most people aren't that patient, however ... the beauty of a skull mount is you can get it up on your wall quickly vs. waiting like you do on a shoulder mount ...


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