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3rd Positive CWD in MS #2634010
11/10/18 12:25 AM
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A doe in Issaquena County - same county as 1st case. Bummer.

Latest CWD link


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D.L. Cheney and R.M. Seyfarth
Re: 3rd Positive CWD in MS [Re: wmd] #2634145
11/10/18 08:50 AM
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Crap


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Re: 3rd Positive CWD in MS [Re: wmd] #2634151
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Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!!
My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty
I'm the paterfamilias
Re: 3rd Positive CWD in MS [Re: wmd] #2634153
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So how are yall going to feel when it is found here? I wonder how long prions exist in the soil? When they take out the herd in a 10 mile circle of positive ID I guess that makes sense but not if prions just stay dormant in soil / environment?

Re: 3rd Positive CWD in MS [Re: wmd] #2634166
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CWD prions are good at binding to soil, especially clay-based soils, and that they can persist there. When some of the soil where an infected dead animal had been buried was injected into research animals several years after it had been buried, the injected animals came down with prion disease.


It takes a long time to grow an old friend.
Re: 3rd Positive CWD in MS [Re: wmd] #2634169
11/10/18 09:17 AM
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not known how long the prions will last in the soil, but it is know they stay for a number of years.


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

proud Cracker-Americaan

muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
Re: 3rd Positive CWD in MS [Re: wmd] #2634170
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It sounds like prions last longer than cockle burrs and cock roaches. I think it is inevitable that CWD will be in Alabama within the next 5 or so years, and I don't think that the experts really know exactly how it is transmitted in all possible ways.

Re: 3rd Positive CWD in MS [Re: wmd] #2634190
11/10/18 10:01 AM
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It's a boogeyman. Supplemental feeding would be outlawed all together with jail time penalties. I honestly think it's a power grab. I LOVE DEER HUNTING AND EVERYTHING TO DO WITH IT. I also know that diseases come along and effect animal populations. If it's coming it's coming. Whether in a pickup truck or crow crap. Don't want it and don't need it. Deer will find a way around it.


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Re: 3rd Positive CWD in MS [Re: wmd] #2634255
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I would say it is more likely than not that it is already here in Alabama. We just haven't found it yet. If it is not, it will be here in a few years. Diseases are just a part of nature. The deer herd adjusts and moves on. The herds in CWD states up north are doing just fine. Thinking we are somehow stopping CWD by outlawing a Eufaula hunter from bringing his Georgia kill back into the state is silly. We have hundreds of miles of open borders with surrounding states and the deer walk freely back and forth every day. CWD is already confirmed to be 50 miles from our western border.

Re: 3rd Positive CWD in MS [Re: wmd] #2634867
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How many of you will stop eating deer meat when it is confirmed in the area you hunt.


If you're gonna be stupid you better be tough.
Re: 3rd Positive CWD in MS [Re: wmd] #2634904
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Is CWD in Kanas as well. I was watching Bone Collector last night,
Micheal Waddell. and T- Bone was sure pour the corn to the deer.
They poured a whole 50 gallon garbage barrell of corn out and then
bow hunted on top of it. They killed 2 monster bucks over it.I realize
It's legal to hunt over bait there, but if CWD is there, that's really no helping
the problem. Futher more for the big time hunting shows are killing
there big deer over bait,

Re: 3rd Positive CWD in MS [Re: wmd] #2634905
11/10/18 08:14 PM
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I'll stop


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

proud Cracker-Americaan

muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
Re: 3rd Positive CWD in MS [Re: Turkeyjery1] #2634915
11/10/18 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Turkeyjery1
Is CWD in Kanas as well. I was watching Bone Collector last night,
Micheal Waddell. and T- Bone was sure pour the corn to the deer.
They poured a whole 50 gallon garbage barrell of corn out and then
bow hunted on top of it. They killed 2 monster bucks over it.I realize
It's legal to hunt over bait there, but if CWD is there, that's really no helping
the problem. Futher more for the big time hunting shows are killing
there big deer over bait,


The first Kansas CWD deer was detected in 2005


It takes a long time to grow an old friend.
Re: 3rd Positive CWD in MS [Re: Turkeyjery1] #2634974
11/10/18 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Turkeyjery1
Is CWD in Kanas as well. I was watching Bone Collector last night,
Micheal Waddell. and T- Bone was sure pour the corn to the deer.
They poured a whole 50 gallon garbage barrell of corn out and then
bow hunted on top of it. They killed 2 monster bucks over it.I realize
It's legal to hunt over bait there, but if CWD is there, that's really no helping
the problem. Futher more for the big time hunting shows are killing
there big deer over bait,

because deer never eat in the same place naturally can you name one study that proves feeding deer increases the rate of transmission or are you spewing hearsay?

Re: 3rd Positive CWD in MS [Re: BhamFred] #2634979
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Originally Posted by BhamFred
I'll stop

your to old for it to matter anyway I probably wont stop. what will keeo it from spreading to cattle if infected deer eat from the trough? no telling how much beef is processed that has it but aint left alive long enough to show symptoms

Re: 3rd Positive CWD in MS [Re: wmd] #2637580
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My brother saw a stumbling deer in the field in front of my house. He was coming out of the driveway at night and the headlights hit it. Said it looked like it was about dead. He went back the next day to look for it in the woods beside the field but didn't find it. How long after a deer dies can it be tested? It was probably drunk off persimmons or maybe wounded I hope.


Two roads diverged in the woods and I took the one with deep ruts,hills and mud.It may be bumpy but WHAT A RIDE!
Re: 3rd Positive CWD in MS [Re: wmd] #2637726
11/13/18 06:21 AM
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CWD hasn't affected Nebraska. 499 positive cases since 2001. I'm averaging 30+ a sit. Ive seen over 30 bucks between 120 and 140. But what do I know. I been coming here since 2005 and I see no decrease in the whitetail herd even after s horrible EHD outbreak. They bounced back just fine.

Guy with game and fish laughed when I asked if CWD wasn't hurting the herd.

Last edited by AlabamaSwamper; 11/13/18 06:23 AM.

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Re: 3rd Positive CWD in MS [Re: wmd] #2637729
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I honestly think it is here.
And, it will be found this hunting season with the increased awareness and testing.

I also think that it has probably been here for a long time........
Hopefully long enough that our deer have somewhat of a resistance to it.

Just what I know about Scrapies in sheep & goats tells me that it is possible for different subspecies/breeds to be much more resistant to it than others.

Re: 3rd Positive CWD in MS [Re: wmd] #2637859
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I think its been here for along time. They are only finding it because they are looking for it.


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Re: 3rd Positive CWD in MS [Re: jallencrockett] #2637904
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Originally Posted by jallencrockett
So how are yall going to feel when it is found here? I wonder how long prions exist in the soil? When they take out the herd in a 10 mile circle of positive ID I guess that makes sense but not if prions just stay dormant in soil / environment?


We know the prions stay in the soil at least 30+ years based on the the first case in CO. The facility was depoped, cleansed and deer were returned a little over 30 years later and began contracting CWD.

I don’t believe states are still doing the “try to eradicate deer” so it doesn’t spread. It simply isn’t affordable. Yearning buck dispersal accounts for its natural spread, so it should be relatively slow. However, as deer (live and dead) are moved from place to place the spread happens faster.

Some out there act as though EHD is a bigger problem than CWD. Here in AL EHD is not 100% fatal, far from it but CWD is. EHD does kill lots of deer in the Midwest when it rolls through but it isn’t something they deal with on an annual basis. The populations recover with time. With CWD most evidence shows that with time prevalence rates increase and so does the area impacted. This can be a pretty slow process but looking at AR, their prevalence rate and hot area has increased pretty dang fast.

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