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Re: Man Killed by Police following Red Flag law [Re: Powpow65] #2632331
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Originally Posted by Powpow65
2nd amendment says "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." IMO any law restricting firearms is unconstitutional.



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Re: Man Killed by Police following Red Flag law [Re: Skullworks] #2632335
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Did I miss something in the article that said it was murder? Is there not an investigation that will take place? Anytime someone is killed by a cop, there is a faction of people that love to scream murder? How do we know this is murder at this time? If the man would have complied he would not be dead, just like any of these other people that do not comply and get shot by police. Am I wrong?

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Re: Man Killed by Police following Red Flag law [Re: chad1980] #2632338
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Originally Posted by chad1980



Did I miss something in the article that said it was murder? Is there not an investigation that will take place? Anytime someone is killed by a cop, there is a faction of people that love to scream murder? How do we know this is murder at this time? If the man would have complied he would not be dead, just like any of these other people that do not comply and get shot by police. Am I wrong?


So is this law gonna cause or prevent more deaths?

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Originally Posted by chad1980



Did I miss something in the article that said it was murder? Is there not an investigation that will take place? Anytime someone is killed by a cop, there is a faction of people that love to scream murder? How do we know this is murder at this time? If the man would have complied he would not be dead, just like any of these other people that do not comply and get shot by police. Am I wrong?


Didn't comply with the government robbing him of legally owned property...what an asshole.

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Originally Posted by chad1980



Did I miss something in the article that said it was murder? Is there not an investigation that will take place? Anytime someone is killed by a cop, there is a faction of people that love to scream murder? How do we know this is murder at this time? If the man would have complied he would not be dead, just like any of these other people that do not comply and get shot by police. Am I wrong?
Were you there? You're asking questions, so I take that as a no. We'll never know if he'd lived had he "complied". And it's not "just like any of these other people that do not comply and get shot by police"...dude was in HIS home. Not walking down a street or out of a convenience store he'd just robbed...he opened the door to HIS home. World of difference.


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Re: Man Killed by Police following Red Flag law [Re: chad1980] #2632362
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Originally Posted by chad1980



Did I miss something in the article that said it was murder? Is there not an investigation that will take place? Anytime someone is killed by a cop, there is a faction of people that love to scream murder? How do we know this is murder at this time? If the man would have complied he would not be dead, just like any of these other people that do not comply and get shot by police. Am I wrong?

When the cops show up at your door in the early morning demanding that you hand over all of your firearms, are you just going to say 'yes sir'? Because if this happens you will spend every dime you have ever earned fighting a government bureaucracy and you will never see them again. This action is taken without due process, and you are already phucked.

Not me. Molon Labe.


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Did I miss something in the article that said it was murder? Is there not an investigation that will take place? Anytime someone is killed by a cop, there is a faction of people that love to scream murder? How do we know this is murder at this time? If the man would have complied he would not be dead, just like any of these other people that do not comply and get shot by police. Am I wrong?
[/quote]Were you there? You're asking questions, so I take that as a no. We'll never know if he'd lived had he "complied". And it's not "just like any of these other people that do not comply and get shot by police"...dude was in HIS home. Not walking down a street or out of a convenience store he'd just robbed...he opened the door to HIS home. World of difference.
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Thats why i am saying let this play out before making promises about what we would do in the situation.

Re: Man Killed by Police following Red Flag law [Re: AU338MAG] #2632381
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Originally Posted by AU338MAG
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Did I miss something in the article that said it was murder? Is there not an investigation that will take place? Anytime someone is killed by a cop, there is a faction of people that love to scream murder? How do we know this is murder at this time? If the man would have complied he would not be dead, just like any of these other people that do not comply and get shot by police. Am I wrong?

When the cops show up at your door in the early morning demanding that you hand over all of your firearms, are you just going to say 'yes sir'? Because if this happens you will spend every dime you have ever earned fighting a government bureaucracy and you will never see them again. This action is taken without due process, and you are already phucked.

Not me. Molon Labe.

I have not seen one of these "warrants" play out. I would venture to say none of us have. What I am saying is that if he would have complied he probably would not have been shot. I hate the dumbass law too. I dont think it is right. I also dont think that it is right to make a bunch of assumptions and compare this to the holocaust when we dont even know the whole story. That is just what every other liberal does today.

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Originally Posted by Abbhudson
Originally Posted by chad1980



Did I miss something in the article that said it was murder? Is there not an investigation that will take place? Anytime someone is killed by a cop, there is a faction of people that love to scream murder? How do we know this is murder at this time? If the man would have complied he would not be dead, just like any of these other people that do not comply and get shot by police. Am I wrong?


Didn't comply with the government robbing him of legally owned property...what an asshole.

There is a right way and a wrong way to handle things period. I am not saying that the law is right. I am saying that maybe it could have been handled differently, and there would not have been a loss of life. If this was about someone that got pulled over and wouldnt sign a ticket and wouldnt give a cop his license and started fighting cops, would you have this same stance? Let all the facts come out, then make your judgement.

Re: Man Killed by Police following Red Flag law [Re: Powpow65] #2632388
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Originally Posted by Powpow65
Originally Posted by chad1980



Did I miss something in the article that said it was murder? Is there not an investigation that will take place? Anytime someone is killed by a cop, there is a faction of people that love to scream murder? How do we know this is murder at this time? If the man would have complied he would not be dead, just like any of these other people that do not comply and get shot by police. Am I wrong?


So is this law gonna cause or prevent more deaths?

Hell no its a dumbass law in 99 percent of cases I'm sure. However the law is the law, period, we all have to abide by them. If one has a problem with a state law, one should think about moving, or getting elected to office to try and change it.

Re: Man Killed by Police following Red Flag law [Re: Skullworks] #2632389
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Re: Man Killed by Police following Red Flag law [Re: chad1980] #2632392
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Originally Posted by chad1980
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Originally Posted by chad1980



Did I miss something in the article that said it was murder? Is there not an investigation that will take place? Anytime someone is killed by a cop, there is a faction of people that love to scream murder? How do we know this is murder at this time? If the man would have complied he would not be dead, just like any of these other people that do not comply and get shot by police. Am I wrong?

When the cops show up at your door in the early morning demanding that you hand over all of your firearms, are you just going to say 'yes sir'? Because if this happens you will spend every dime you have ever earned fighting a government bureaucracy and you will never see them again. This action is taken without due process, and you are already phucked.

Not me. Molon Labe.

I have not seen one of these "warrants" play out. I would venture to say none of us have. What I am saying is that if he would have complied he probably would not have been shot. I hate the dumbass law too. I dont think it is right. I also dont think that it is right to make a bunch of assumptions and compare this to the holocaust when we dont even know the whole story. That is just what every other liberal does today.

You really missed the point didn't you?

Comparing me to a liberal? Now THAT'S stupid.


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good thing john adams, thomas jefferson and james madison didnt have the same attitude as some of yall


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Originally Posted by goodman_hunter
good thing john adams, thomas jefferson and james madison didnt have the same attitude as some of yall

Like I said lets see what comes of this investigation before several of these folks start talking about shooting cops, and the best places to shoot them, that is just ignorant. Maybe the cops were wrong, maybe the relative was wrong, maybe the deceased man is wrong. There are only a handful of people that were involved that know the truth. I am sure there will be some body cams. I am not taking sides of anyone. What I am saying is we should not jump to conclusions about why someone was shot.

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Cops have got to learn to step back and resolve conflicts a different way instead of instigating confrontations sometimes too.


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Re: Man Killed by Police following Red Flag law [Re: chad1980] #2632421
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Originally Posted by chad1980
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good thing john adams, thomas jefferson and james madison didnt have the same attitude as some of yall

Like I said lets see what comes of this investigation before several of these folks start talking about shooting cops, and the best places to shoot them, that is just ignorant. Maybe the cops were wrong, maybe the relative was wrong, maybe the deceased man is wrong. There are only a handful of people that were involved that know the truth. I am sure there will be some body cams. I am not taking sides of anyone. What I am saying is we should not jump to conclusions about why someone was shot.

The wrong was done long before this incident ever took place.
The leftist morons who passed this illegal law are responsible for the wrong here.


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Originally Posted by Abbhudson
Originally Posted by chad1980



Did I miss something in the article that said it was murder? Is there not an investigation that will take place? Anytime someone is killed by a cop, there is a faction of people that love to scream murder? How do we know this is murder at this time? If the man would have complied he would not be dead, just like any of these other people that do not comply and get shot by police. Am I wrong?


Didn't comply with the government robbing him of legally owned property while inside his own home ...what an asshole.


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I do agree that this blanket law is ignorant. I wished there was a way to determine who has no need in having a gun better than this. Some people don't need to drive, some don't need to be around a chuckee cheese, and some people just do not need a firearm period.

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Originally Posted by chad1980
I do agree that this blanket law is ignorant. I wished there was a way to determine who has no need in having a gun better than this. Some people don't need to drive, some don't need to be around a chuckee cheese, and some people just do not need a firearm period.

When my father could no longer drive safely we took his keys. Wasn't easy, but we didn't ask the police to come take his keys, we did it.


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Re: Man Killed by Police following Red Flag law [Re: Skullworks] #2632453
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I didn't realize that so many people had a problem with LEO's on here. Anytime a LEO pops anyone else we all run to their defense, and want to wait for the facts to come out. Not in this case. Not sure why this is any different.

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