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Re: Most Overrated Caliber [Re: Big Game Hunter] #2631853
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Any caliber in the hand of a bad shot or inexperienced Hunter is overrated. There are some bad reviews of every caliber, but I bet 90% of that is on the shooter for either making a bad shot or trying to go beyond what the caliber was designed to do, or possibly they are using the wrong bullet. But I'll say 30/30.

Re: Most Overrated Caliber [Re: Big Game Hunter] #2631859
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Pick the cartridge/gun for your situation. I never hunted with the STW in a hardwood drain and I never hunted a large cutover with a 30-30.

I will nominate the 6.5 Creedmoor since the hoopla I've heard and then I checked out the ballistics. It has been a head scratcher hearing that it was similar to a 300 WM in performance. I've also heard it will run at 3200 fps.

No doubt it performs and performs very well on paper and deer, it's just not as magical as some claim.


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Re: Most Overrated Caliber [Re: Goatkiller] #2631862
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Originally Posted by Goatkiller

.... I haven't figured out.... it is just a .260.


The Creedmoor is an improvement over the .260 when seating the high BC bullets out long and not having OAL issues in magazines--especially when chasing the lands. Better velocity with the .260 but better factory ammunition options with the CM.

Re: Most Overrated Caliber [Re: Big Game Hunter] #2631872
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I think it's kinda funny the 6.5Creedmoor disapproval.
You've got an affordable accurate light recoiling cartridge with solid ballistics with tons of rifle options.
Hell, even Remington is chambering rifles in 6.5Creedmoor, to me that symbolizes they're giving up on the 260.

It would be interesting to compile date from the big hunting rifle manufactures and look at 6.5Creedmoor vs all other 308 based cartridges.
The sales numbers would be absolutely staggering I believe. I would guess it is curb stomping 260Rem, beating up 7MM08, neck and neck with 243 and gaining ground on 308.

Re: Most Overrated Caliber [Re: Big Game Hunter] #2631879
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I have a 260 and 6.5 creed. Both shoot lights out.


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Re: Most Overrated Caliber [Re: Big Game Hunter] #2631881
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Y’all make me laugh with the “Creedmore” stuff. It reminds me of anything named “Rigby”

Re: Most Overrated Caliber [Re: Big Game Hunter] #2631936
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I dunno if anyone else has noticed but 7mm-08 ammo always costs a little more. That’s my experience anyway. If .243 and .308 is $21 a box, same brand of 7-08 is $28.


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Re: Most Overrated Caliber [Re: AC870] #2631939
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Originally Posted by AC870
I dunno if anyone else has noticed but 7mm-08 ammo always costs a little more. That’s my experience anyway. If .243 and .308 is $21 a box, same brand of 7-08 is $28.


If you can find it 7mm08 stays sold out around tuscaloosa


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Re: Most Overrated Caliber [Re: Beadlescomb] #2631947
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Originally Posted by Beadlescomb
Originally Posted by AC870
I dunno if anyone else has noticed but 7mm-08 ammo always costs a little more. That’s my experience anyway. If .243 and .308 is $21 a box, same brand of 7-08 is $28.


If you can find it 7mm08 stays sold out around tuscaloosa


And all that doesn't make sense to me....

Re: Most Overrated Caliber [Re: Big Game Hunter] #2631948
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30-06 is also for the gheys.


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Re: Most Overrated Caliber [Re: Big Game Hunter] #2631949
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lol

Re: Most Overrated Caliber [Re: Big Game Hunter] #2631957
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To me the most overrated caliber is an individual thing . I have a buddy that praises the 270 but on the other hand dogs the 30/06 to the point it’s annoying. I believe various calibers are like different size wrenches, they all have their purpose. A 30/30 isn’t the best at shooting 500 yards and a 300 mag isn’t the best brush gun.


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Re: Most Overrated Caliber [Re: Bull64] #2631986
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Originally Posted by Bull64
Originally Posted by Beadlescomb
Originally Posted by AC870
I dunno if anyone else has noticed but 7mm-08 ammo always costs a little more. That’s my experience anyway. If .243 and .308 is $21 a box, same brand of 7-08 is $28.


If you can find it 7mm08 stays sold out around tuscaloosa


And all that doesn't make sense to me....


I can only assume it has to do with production volume. Even when you compare 6.5Creedmoor shooting an identical weight bullet and a powder charge that I assume is identical also.

I could be totally off but yes I've noticed it also.

Re: Most Overrated Caliber [Re: JohnnyLoco] #2631991
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Originally Posted by JohnnyLoco
Y’all make me laugh with the “Creedmore” stuff. It reminds me of anything named “Rigby”

My dog is named Rigby.


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Re: Most Overrated Caliber [Re: Big Game Hunter] #2632032
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Shot a Rigby in .275 (7x57) weighed 7.25 lbs with scope and was delightful.


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Re: Most Overrated Caliber [Re: Big Game Hunter] #2632033
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Re: Most Overrated Caliber [Re: Big Game Hunter] #2632072
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With the right load and accuracy even a .223 can get the job done. Ammo type is the key. Some are for yotes and some are for deer you got to know difference and be accurate shooting that ammo. Yes, some larger ones are more forgiving than smaller calibers, so why not lean to toward the one that gives you more of an edge to bring down your game in case your shot is a little off.

Re: Most Overrated Caliber [Re: Big Game Hunter] #2632073
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I do think the 7mm Rem mag is overrated ballisticly if you look at case size and powder capacity. Not saying it’s a bad round I’ve got a few myself but there are others that will do what it does better or same with less fuss.

Re: Most Overrated Caliber [Re: Bull64] #2632074
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Originally Posted by Bull64
Originally Posted by Beadlescomb
Originally Posted by AC870
I dunno if anyone else has noticed but 7mm-08 ammo always costs a little more. That’s my experience anyway. If .243 and .308 is $21 a box, same brand of 7-08 is $28.


If you can find it 7mm08 stays sold out around tuscaloosa


And all that doesn't make sense to me....



Thats why you find what your rifle likes and stock up some when its on sale. Once or twice a year you can find it on sale $12-16 a box online. I found 7mm08 federal premiums a while back on sale for $9, yes nine dollars a box with free shipping.


As for over rated it would be the 6.5 Creedmoor. With all the hype you would think it does things no other caliber has ever done. Its a fine caliber with good balance of recoil and ballistics but for hunting purposes take it, a 260 and a 7mm08 and ya wouldnt know the difference.


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Re: Most Overrated Caliber [Re: Big Game Hunter] #2632328
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Well,you need to be sharing these ammo sales grin

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I can get it done just as good with the .22 wmr.....

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