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Re: Trump trying to end Birthright Citizenship
[Re: wheelgun]
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10/31/18 10:03 AM
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SouthBamaSlayer
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Babies are born here all the time to foreign parents, for example, Italians visiting here. Is their child automatically a U.S. citizen? Yes.
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Re: Trump trying to end Birthright Citizenship
[Re: HoofNSpur]
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10/31/18 10:06 AM
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Round ‘bout there
Clem
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Mildly Quirky
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Round ‘bout there
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Seen on TV awhile back where pregnant women plan trips to US and have their baby while here to gain citizenship. It's a business and must be stopped. This has been going on for many years. It's not new.
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Re: Trump trying to end Birthright Citizenship
[Re: Remington270]
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10/31/18 11:40 AM
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goodman_hunter
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Booner
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aint it funny, how, now the dems are constitutionalist's
Last edited by goodman_hunter; 10/31/18 11:40 AM.
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Re: Trump trying to end Birthright Citizenship
[Re: 40Bucks]
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10/31/18 12:52 PM
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USA
Remington270
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Freak of Nature
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I'd rather leave the Constitution alone and argue continually in the courts than make a change that comes back to bite us or our future generations. The Dems are going to interpret the constitution in their best interests regardless. I agree with having your own standards/morals/ethics about it, but it won't change a thing they do. Not even a little.
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Re: Trump trying to end Birthright Citizenship
[Re: Remington270]
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10/31/18 01:14 PM
10/31/18 01:14 PM
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IDOT
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I am Cornholio
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Trump, likes to get things done and I'm glad he has that attitude. Even in running a business, there are policies and then there are guidelines. You don't phuck with Policy, it's the core of your business beliefs. Same with the constitution, its the foundation by which our country was founded. You don't just "Change" it. You have to follow policy..you have to or it's simply just a bunch of words with no meanings. Mark my word, if Trump does this, we can kiss gun ownership as we know it, goodbye by at the end of the Trump administration.
If you’re a common sense person, you probably don’t feel you have a home in this world right now. If you’re a Christian, you know you were never meant to.
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Re: Trump trying to end Birthright Citizenship
[Re: IDOT]
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10/31/18 01:15 PM
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Remington270
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if Trump does this, we can kiss gun ownership as we know it, goodbye by at the end of the Trump administration. And if he doesn't? Same result. I just don't get that line of thinking. They're going after guns, regardless. If you oppose this executive order, I can certainly respect that, but not for preservation of "other" constitutional rights. The left literally doesn't care.
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Re: Trump trying to end Birthright Citizenship
[Re: Remington270]
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10/31/18 01:21 PM
10/31/18 01:21 PM
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Guntersville, AL
IDOT
I am Cornholio
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I am Cornholio
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Guntersville, AL
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if Trump does this, we can kiss gun ownership as we know it, goodbye by at the end of the Trump administration. And if he doesn't? Same result. I just don't get that line of thinking. They're going after guns, regardless. If you oppose this executive order, I can certainly respect that, but not for preservation of "other" constitutional rights. The left literally doesn't care. The line of thinking, is that you can't be a hypocrite. You can't pick and choose when to molest the constitution because it fits an agenda. Yes, regardless of what Trump does, the left will still do what they do and we will have to fight that fight. That being said, if you become what your fighting, then what's the point.
If you’re a common sense person, you probably don’t feel you have a home in this world right now. If you’re a Christian, you know you were never meant to.
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Re: Trump trying to end Birthright Citizenship
[Re: IDOT]
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10/31/18 01:23 PM
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WmHunter
14 point
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Mark my word, if Trump does this, we can kiss gun ownership as we know it, goodbye by at the end of the Trump administration. This is alarmist and misplaced. The SCOTUS has consistently ruled that the 2nd Amendment is an individual right. And there is a clear conservative majority on the court, with room to add to that majority. On the other hand with respect to the 14th Amendment - the SCOTUS has never even ruled on the issue of illegals having children in the U.S. This has only been dealt with on the basis of a pre 1960s common sense approach by the Executive Branch which is that they do not have automatic citizenship, and a post 1960s liberal agenda approach by the Executive Branch that they do.
Last edited by WmHunter; 10/31/18 01:24 PM.
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Re: Trump trying to end Birthright Citizenship
[Re: Fattyfireplug]
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10/31/18 01:26 PM
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WmHunter
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I think Trump is right on time with this, I am also pretty sure that he can not make a Presidential order on this stick, he knows that some libtard judge is going to shut it down and while it might make it to the supreme court his main goal is to make congress get off their asses and fix it like they should have done years ago, Lindsay Graham is supposedly introducing a bill this week to that affect. You are correct and it will get fast tracked just like the earlier immigration policies were. He will win in the end. Justifiably so. Yes - this legal issue is going to get fast tracked to SCOTUS and it will also give the Congress a chance to specifically legislate that there is no birthright citizenship for illegals - which will also be subject to SCOTUS review.
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter
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Re: Trump trying to end Birthright Citizenship
[Re: IDOT]
#2624208
10/31/18 02:41 PM
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IsaacMcCaslin
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if Trump does this, we can kiss gun ownership as we know it, goodbye by at the end of the Trump administration. And if he doesn't? Same result. I just don't get that line of thinking. They're going after guns, regardless. If you oppose this executive order, I can certainly respect that, but not for preservation of "other" constitutional rights. The left literally doesn't care. The line of thinking, is that you can't be a hypocrite. You can't pick and choose when to molest the constitution because it fits an agenda. Yes, regardless of what Trump does, the left will still do what they do and we will have to fight that fight. That being said, if you become what your fighting, then what's the point. This is an excellent post.
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