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Re: Latest Football Rankings/Polls - AU Out [Re: Clem] #2608179
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I've heard the argument about going to a school for early playing time. Like them or not but Alabama is the premier team.. They play a lot of freshmen. The way college football is now, everyone plays freshmen. Does a school really want these freshmen that want early playing time but just aren't good enough to get playing time at another school? Seems that school would be getting the 2nd or even 3 rd level of players and not the top level.

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Look at the number of offensive linemen auburn has signed over the past 4 years in comparison to Alabama or Georgia or anybody else. (Not the star ratings just the number of bodies). It’s like they just kinda forgot they needed them. I don’t think they are exceptionally talented anywhere other than the defensive line.

Re: Latest Football Rankings/Polls - AU Out [Re: Clem] #2608638
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It seems to me that the auburn coaching staff is very poor at evaluating high school players and they are lazy as recruiters. They will always have a player like Nix that is going to auburn because his daddy did, but they seem to target 3 or 4- 5* players that may not be deserving of the 5* ranking. Cowart is a prime example, highly rated, but most coaching staffs didn't offer him a spot in the recruiting class. There are a lot of 3 or 4 star players that are better than some 5 star players, but the coaching staff has to have their own recruiting list, not some sports writers list.

Re: Latest Football Rankings/Polls - AU Out [Re: timbercruiser] #2608654
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Originally Posted by timbercruiser
Cowart is a prime example, highly rated, but most coaching staffs didn't offer him a spot in the recruiting class. There are a lot of 3 or 4 star players that are better than some 5 star players, but the coaching staff has to have their own recruiting list, not some sports writers list.


If you are talking about Byron Cowart, he was the #3 player in the nation in the 2015 recruiting cycle and had offers from every school in the nation. Even though he didn't pan out, it was a pretty big deal at the time that Auburn was able to pull him in.


Isn't he at Maryland now?


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Re: Latest Football Rankings/Polls - AU Out [Re: 257wbymag] #2608674
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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
Tubs could take a bench full of 3*'s and make em play like 5's. Gus turns 4*s and what few 5's into 1 or 2's



The problem with Tubs was he was getting the same results as Malzahn.

Tubbs (10 seasons 85-40 overall 52-30 in the SEC).

Avg 8 - 4 overall 5 - 3 in the SEC.

Gus (5 full seasons 45 - 22 overall 25 - 15 in the SEC.

Avg 8 - 4 overall 5 - 3 in the SEC.


I think Tommy's endearment to most Auburn fans was more in regards to his success vs Alabama in his 10 years


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Re: Latest Football Rankings/Polls - AU Out [Re: BC] #2608696
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Originally Posted by BC
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I think Tommy's endearment to most Auburn fans was more in regards to his success vs Alabama in his 10 years


Yep...


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Re: Latest Football Rankings/Polls - AU Out [Re: Clem] #2608713
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Yea, and he did that with Alabama on probation, down 22 players on scholarship.

Re: Latest Football Rankings/Polls - AU Out [Re: Clem] #2608729
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Doesn't matter though, does it? Alabama won a natty over Texas after knocking out the starting quarterback. Does it make that any less of a win? Should that have an asterisk beside it because there was a deer-eyed freshman QB the rest of the game?

Alabama still got solid players during that run. Y'all always say the players come to Alabama to play for Alabama and not because of anything else. So by that, Alabama had top talent even at a depleted level, right? Or was the talent then really chitty and not worthy of the jersey, thus making AU's wins irrelevant?


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Re: Latest Football Rankings/Polls - AU Out [Re: Clem] #2608895
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Y'all do realize that Ole Miss defensively is horrible, right? Completely all over the map as far as consistency goes. Giving up huge yardage to all kinds of teams. Consistent poor tacking and out of position problems.
Ole Miss has the ability to allow Auburn, who is sucking at offense, look impressive,unless something drastically changes.
Could easily be a game where whoever scores last wins.


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Re: Latest Football Rankings/Polls - AU Out [Re: Clem] #2608915
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Liberty and Ole Miss are winnable.Not to be arrogant obnoxious Bama fan but does perception of Auburn's issues seem worse because of the tall ringwearing midget coaching UA? Someone should show Gus film of Dye's O lines it may help.


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Re: Latest Football Rankings/Polls - AU Out [Re: Clem] #2609022
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Watched a little of the UT-AU game today on replay.

IMO there's no chemistry between Stidham and Slayton. Not sure what's up or if anything is, but when your QB and big WR aren't on the same page 100% then that ain't good.

We may find out at some point that there's something internal with Stidham, hailed as the Golden Boy Savior, that didn't ring true with the rest of the team. Dunno. Who knows? We're on the outside.

As for the OL, they're just not SEC caliber IMO. Center is the most important part of the offense next to the QB, and they have redshirt freshman at center. It's not for lack of effort with the line. I think they're just overwhelmed, confused in the heat of the moment, frustrated, young - yes, this - and it's just all crashed around them.

Stidham reportedly said they plan to surprise people the rest of the season. IMO they've already truly suprised the chit out of everyone.


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Re: Latest Football Rankings/Polls - AU Out [Re: Clem] #2609040
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Yea too late for that shucks.


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Re: Latest Football Rankings/Polls - AU Out [Re: Clem] #2609092
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Clem,
Wasn't it Slayton that dropped the guaranteed TD pass while in stride Saturday?

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Originally Posted by alhawk
Clem,
Wasn't it Slayton that dropped the guaranteed TD pass while in stride Saturday?

Yes frown

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Originally Posted by alhawk
Clem,
Wasn't it Slayton that dropped the guaranteed TD pass while in stride Saturday?


Yes. Also was overthrown.

AU's offense is consistently inconsistent.


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Re: Latest Football Rankings/Polls - AU Out [Re: Clem] #2609139
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Originally Posted by Clem
Originally Posted by alhawk
Clem,
Wasn't it Slayton that dropped the guaranteed TD pass while in stride Saturday?


Yes. Also was overthrown.

AU's offense is consistently inconsistent.



Seems like I remember Stidham hitting someone right in the bread basket on a deep ball that would have been a for sure TD. Either way, this loss was not due to 1 single play or 1 single player. This whole system is a clusterphuck right now from the top all the way down..... especially at the top.


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Correct. Stidham is making some passes that are being dropped, and he's overthrowing some that are "Daymnnn, he missed that?"

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Re: Latest Football Rankings/Polls - AU Out [Re: Clem] #2609226
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Auburn had a players-only meeting last week and aired it out they said.
Every D coach in the league now knows Gus' formations for his HS trick plays and he doesn't have a RB or QB that will make the difference. No Nick Marshall, no Cam, no Kerrion....

Re: Latest Football Rankings/Polls - AU Out [Re: Clem] #2609238
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Lotta good that talk did.


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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
Lotta good that talk did.


What you reckon the outcome would have been like if they hadn't held that meeting grin

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