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Worse coach at each SEC school #2606419
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Talking about bad coaches....who is the worse coach in your lifetime at each SEC school:

Bama - Mike Dubose
Auburn - Doug Barfield
GA - Ray Goff
FL - Ron Zook
TN - Derek Dooley
Kentucky - Bill Curry
A&M - Franchionne
LSU - Gerry DiNardo
Miss St - Rockey Felker
Ole Miss - Ed Orgeron
Missouri - ???
Vandy - ???
South Carolina -
Arkansas - Jack Crowe


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Re: Worse coach at each SEC school [Re: bamafan1966] #2606423
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Not sure if Derek Dooley was worse than Butch Jones


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Originally Posted by Phil_Army
Not sure if Derek Dooley was worse than Butch Jones


I agree it could go either way.....

Re: Worse coach at each SEC school [Re: bamafan1966] #2606431
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I wouldn't say Ron Zook was Florida's worst. He had three consecutive winning seasons even though they were modest. Will Muschamp was prolly the worst in recent memory.


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Originally Posted by MarksOutdoors

I wouldn't say Ron Zook was Florida's worst. He had three consecutive winning seasons even though they were modest. Will Muschamp was prolly the worst in recent memory.


Would you say Muschamp was worse than McElwain?? Obviously Zook should be replaced....

Re: Worse coach at each SEC school [Re: bamafan1966] #2606444
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Mike Shula should be on that list.


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Re: Worse coach at each SEC school [Re: bamafan1966] #2606448
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Randy Shannon - lost 3 out of 4 games as interim HC after shark boy was canned. Will Muschamp was the worst head coach hired followed by Ron Zook.


At time worst hire has to be Lane Kiffin at TN. smile


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Originally Posted by jmudler

At time worst hire has to be Lane Kiffin at TN. smile


Kiffin at least made it to a game. Mike Price should edge out Kiffin as all time worst hire.

Gerry Dinardo at LSU??? I'd have to go with Curley Hallman.

Re: Worse coach at each SEC school [Re: bamafan1966] #2606545
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Curley Hallman for sure at LSU.

Re: Worse coach at each SEC school [Re: centralala] #2606556
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Originally Posted by centralala
Originally Posted by jmudler

At time worst hire has to be Lane Kiffin at TN. smile


Kiffin at least made it to a game. Mike Price should edge out Kiffin as all time worst hire.

Gerry Dinardo at LSU??? I'd have to go with Curley Hallman.



Kiffin had a winning record. That is more than Dooley ever did.

Re: Worse coach at each SEC school [Re: bamafan1966] #2606560
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Bama - Mike Dubose, worst coach that coached a game, worst hire was Mike Price
Auburn - Doug Barfield
GA - Ray Goff
FL - Muschamp
TN - Derek Dooley and Butch Jones are a tie
Kentucky - Joker Phillips
A&M - Mike Sherman
LSU - Curley Hallman
Miss St - Sylvester Croom
Ole Miss - Ed Orgeron
Missouri - I don’t know crap about their history
Vandy - Watson Brown
South Carolina - Lou Holtz
Arkansas - John L. smith

Re: Worse coach at each SEC school [Re: bamafan1966] #2606573
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Amazing Dubose won an SEC championship sucking so bad

Shula should get a statue for walking into the situation he did and handling it like he did, belongs nowhere near this list

Re: Worse coach at each SEC school [Re: bamafan1966] #2608832
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I find it interesting, not necessarily disagreeing with you, but think it is interesting that you have Franchione as the worst Coach at A&M, but not the worst coach at bammer. That would mean that you think that DuBose must have been really bad. On a side note, I was among the last people to speak to Fran as the Alabama coach. Despite all the rumors, he had a speech scheduled with the Selma QB Club and I was his security. He got up and gave his speech never once mentioning leaving Bammer. He refused to answer questions about it. The plane took off and it did land in Tuscaloosa. It didn't stay long though as he was in Aggieland by lunch the next day.

And Orgeron as the worst at Ole Miss and now look at the job he is doing. It just show that some schools just aren't the right fit for a coach and other schools may fit him well.

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Mike Price was by far the worst of the hired Bama coaches. Dubose was not a good head coach, but he was an excellent DL coach and a very good linebacker and that counts for something.

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No Mike Shula on the list?


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Originally Posted by mark
Mike Shula should be on that list.



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Originally Posted by dagwood
No Mike Shula on the list?

Dubose was worse that Shula. Way worse.

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People saying Shula couldn't be more wrong imo. Shula could recruit and did a damn fine job considering the situation he walked into.

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Originally Posted by doekiller
Originally Posted by dagwood
No Mike Shula on the list?

Dubose was worse that Shula. Way worse.



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Re: Worse coach at each SEC school [Re: bamafan1966] #2609178
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Mike Shula took the job after severe sanctions were handed to Bama and on the heels of the Mike Price misfire......I in no way have any inside sources but feel his job was to run a clean program, don't embarrass the university with a private scandal and hopefully grow into the role.....he obviously didn't deliver enough wins and he was replaced.......Dubose had a personal scandal that cost the university money and embarrassment in addition to delivering crappy performance on the field...

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Originally Posted by doekiller


Bama - Mike Dubose, worst coach that coached a game, worst hire was Mike Price
Auburn - Doug Barfield
GA - Ray Goff
FL - Muschamp
TN - Derek Dooley and Butch Jones are a tie
Kentucky - Joker Phillips
A&M - Mike Sherman
LSU - Curley Hallman
Miss St - Sylvester Croom
Ole Miss - Ed Orgeron
Missouri - I don’t know crap about their history
Vandy - Watson Brown
South Carolina - Lou Holtz
Arkansas - John L. smith



I forgot about Joker Phillips (Kentucky) and John L. Smith (Arkansas)........Sylvester Groom had some good times at MSU by beating AU and Bama (twice if I recall correctly)......Curley Hallman should have been fired the day at Auburn when he kept throwing the ball and gave the game away.......

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Originally Posted by jawbone
I find it interesting, not necessarily disagreeing with you, but think it is interesting that you have Franchione as the worst Coach at A&M, but not the worst coach at bammer. That would mean that you think that DuBose must have been really bad. On a side note, I was among the last people to speak to Fran as the Alabama coach. Despite all the rumors, he had a speech scheduled with the Selma QB Club and I was his security. He got up and gave his speech never once mentioning leaving Bammer. He refused to answer questions about it. The plane took off and it did land in Tuscaloosa. It didn't stay long though as he was in Aggieland by lunch the next day.

And Orgeron as the worst at Ole Miss and now look at the job he is doing. It just show that some schools just aren't the right fit for a coach and other schools may fit him well.


I thought Franchionne delivered on the field at Bama but got what he deserved at A&M when he bailed on the Bama players after asking them to hold the rope long enough for him to get a better job...BTW I think Dubose was so far over his head and somehow pulled an SEC championship out of his arse by beating FL twice in one season after losing to LA Tech.....I think Coach O learned quite a bit from his mistakes at Ole Miss but players seem to love playing for him......

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Originally Posted by MTeague
Originally Posted by doekiller
Originally Posted by dagwood
No Mike Shula on the list?

Dubose was worse that Shula. Way worse.



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Says they guy who thinks Malzahn is a good coach.

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Dubose 4-7, 7-5, 10-3, 3-8= 24-23
Shula 4-9, 6-6, 10-2, 6-6= 26-23

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Originally Posted by doekiller
Dubose 4-7, 7-5, 10-3, 3-8= 24-23
Shula 4-9, 6-6, 10-2, 6-6= 26-23


Neither one of them set the woods on fire did they??

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Originally Posted by doekiller
Dubose 4-7, 7-5, 10-3, 3-8= 24-23
Shula 4-9, 6-6, 10-2, 6-6= 26-23

Don't really have a dog in this fight but Shula was thrust into a bad situation. He may have the abilities but I don't think he's ever really wanted to be a head coach. He helped Bama when they were in desperate needs.

Dumbose wanted to be the HC, but he never has and never will have what it takes.


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Originally Posted by mark
Mike Shula should be on that list.

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Re: Worse coach at each SEC school [Re: bamafan1966] #2609516
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I dunno about worst. But best has to be Malzahn, all-time, in the SEC... beers

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Picking just one from Vanderbilt might be challenging but I'd have to go with Fred Pancoast, who coached there from 1975-78. He was 13-39 overall and 2-22 in the SEC with three straight 0-6 seasons in the SEC. How they won 13 games in four seasons is a mystery.

A guy from my high school played there and Vandy was the first college game I ever saw in person. I was in junior high school and we went up to watch him. Dudley Field was a bandbox - still is.

As to how times have changed, after one of the games we went to I walked into the locker room to ask players for autographs. Walked into the coach's office - the head coach of an SEC team - and he said, "How did you get in here?" before someone walked me out. grin

One time when I was covering either UA or AU playing up there, I think kickoff was 11 a.m. and I left H'sv at 8:30 a.m., which was late. Should've left at about 7. But I wheeled straight to the stadium, parked and walked in without encountering any traffic. What few fans were there already were in the stadium and there was no traffic. Walked into the pressbox, got a hot dog and Coke, found my seat and the national anthem was playing. Perfect timing.


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J. B. Ears Whitworth at Bama.

Before my time, but I heard he was pretty bad.

Mike Shula just needed more time... Like Gus does.

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J. B. Ears Whitworth at Bama.

Before my time, but I heard he was pretty bad.




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Originally Posted by doekiller


Bama - Mike Dubose, worst coach that coached a game, worst hire was Mike Price
Auburn - Doug Barfield
GA - Ray Goff
FL - Muschamp
TN - Derek Dooley and Butch Jones are a tie
Kentucky - Joker Phillips
A&M - Mike Sherman
LSU - Curley Hallman
Miss St - Sylvester Croom
Ole Miss - Ed Orgeron
Missouri - I don’t know crap about their history
Vandy - Watson Brown
South Carolina - Lou Holtz
Arkansas - John L. smith


I see Sylvester croom on your list, he always looked like he was more at home with a spatula in one hand and a 40 in the other


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I thought Dubose was hired by the Bama fan base because he was one of Bears boys. Didn’t they flood the AD at the times fax wanting him?

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