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Browning auto 5 high pattern #2600766
10/06/18 06:51 PM
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I bought a used browning auto 5 3 inch magnum last year. It has the long full choke goose barrel and I bought a new browning miroku barrel with the invector choke system. My problem is everything I shoot the patten is high. I mean like have to aim at the beard area to hit the neck and head. I put a higher bead on the new barrel but didn’t help much. It does this with either barrel so I’m sure it’s me. What could I be doing wrong. I’m about to sell it if I can’t figure out something.
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Re: Browning auto 5 high pattern [Re: having fun now] #2601010
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Seems like you are looking straight down the sights, try looking at a sslightly higher angle from back to front and see if that will help, may take a few shots to find the sweet spot.


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Re: Browning auto 5 high pattern [Re: having fun now] #2601196
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My son was having this issue when he started shooting a shotgun. I installed a mid-bead on the rib and problem solved. He now shoots guns without the mid just fine. I think it might have helped him in his form. Just my 2Cents

Re: Browning auto 5 high pattern [Re: having fun now] #2601199
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Sounds like the stock is too short for you. Try adding a slip on recoil pad. If that fixes your problem, you can have a spacer and pad ground to fit and give you the length you need...If it has a vent rib, the mid bead mentioned above will help you get lined up, but you will be conforming to the gun rather than the gun fitting you properly.


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Re: Browning auto 5 high pattern [Re: having fun now] #2601202
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Have you shot a "hump back" very much before ? Some folks have trouble when they've been used to something else , I guess it's an acquired taste so to speak.



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Re: Browning auto 5 high pattern [Re: having fun now] #2601487
10/07/18 02:41 PM
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I'm not understanding the problem. It is possible for a gun to shoot high in relation to the rib or bead, and it's also possible for the gun to not fit you and shoot high for you when shooting flying targets. Identifying which we are talking about is essential to correcting it.

I believe that a shotgun should shoot true to the rib or bead. That means that if you aim it like a rifle the gun should center the pattern on the target. If it doesn't, something is wrong with the way the gun was built at the factory. Of all the problems to have, shooting high is probably the easiest to correct.

But it's very possible that a gun will shoot true to the rib, but then you shoot high when shooting moving targets. That can also be corrected, but we need to know which problem you have. Since you speak of aiming at the beard, it sounds like this is a turkey gun?


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Re: Browning auto 5 high pattern [Re: having fun now] #2601621
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It’s not necessarily a turkey gun that is probably what it will primarily be used for. If I aim and put the bead on the neck/head area of the turkey target the pattern is at least a foot high. Thus my statement of having to aim at the chest area to have the majority of the pattern hit the head/neck. I’m feel like this is probably a problem with me and how I aim/fit the gun. I’ve never had a shotgun with a vent rib and don’t know if this has anything to to with it. My other shotgun is a humpback browning 12 gauge 2 3/4 but doesn’t have a vent rib and it shoots where I aim. Just looking for suggestions on trying to correct problem. If I can’t then I’ll just sell or trade it and try to find something else. Thanks for all the ideas so far.

Re: Browning auto 5 high pattern [Re: having fun now] #2601700
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https://www.browning.com/news/tech-terms/point-of-impact.html

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Point of Impact Testing

Shotgun P.O.I. Testing Procedure

With our shotguns all POI testing is done in our test tunnels at 40 yards. The only exception to the 40 yard test would be the .410. By industry standard the .410 is tested at 25 yards. All guns are shot from a shooting bench using a front and rear rest much the same as what a bench rest shooter would use. A sheet of paper approximately 5’ square is used with a center aiming point of 6 inches.

The shooter will use the sight picture appropriate for the type of shotgun being tested. A flat sight picture is used for Field, Skeet and Sporting Clays and a Figure 8 or stacked bead picture for Trap Guns. In all cases a 6 o’clock front sight hold on the target is used. 6 o’clock hold means sight bead held at the 6 o’clock position on the aim point.

The target is shot 3 times, the same as one would do to shoot a 3 shot group with a rifle. The purpose of the 3 shots is to give a denser pattern to work with. After 3 shots the pattern paper is recovered and a template 30 inches in diameter with a center hole is placed on the pattern and moved around to cover the most shot and the center marked. Removing the template, the shooter will measure from the center of the pattern to the center of the aiming pint; up, down, right or left.

With these measurements one can determine where the center of the pattern is in relationship to the aiming point.

Standard Specifications: #38 11-18-10 JJH

Re: Browning auto 5 high pattern [Re: having fun now] #2601868
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Thanks CarterV good read. I think I just need to learn how to aim to get my poi correct

Re: Browning auto 5 high pattern [Re: having fun now] #2602883
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Originally Posted by having fun now
It’s not necessarily a turkey gun that is probably what it will primarily be used for. If I aim and put the bead on the neck/head area of the turkey target the pattern is at least a foot high. Thus my statement of having to aim at the chest area to have the majority of the pattern hit the head/neck. I’m feel like this is probably a problem with me and how I aim/fit the gun. I’ve never had a shotgun with a vent rib and don’t know if this has anything to to with it. My other shotgun is a humpback browning 12 gauge 2 3/4 but doesn’t have a vent rib and it shoots where I aim. Just looking for suggestions on trying to correct problem. If I can’t then I’ll just sell or trade it and try to find something else. Thanks for all the ideas so far.




Sounds to me like the gun is shooting high and has nothing to do with you. With an A5 the sight picture should be the same whether it has a rib or not. At least mine look the same to me. I'd much rather deal with a shotgun shooting high than low. A higher front bead is the easiest fix. If you are gonna mainly turkey hunt with it then you can use adjustable sights.

My SBE shot high, so I put on a set of non-adjustable fiber optics and used JB weld under the front sight to make it higher. That corrected the aiming issue and it is no problem to wing shoot with it.


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Re: Browning auto 5 high pattern [Re: having fun now] #2604652
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If both barrels are shooting high POI vs POA, I’d lean toward your eye not being low enough behind the gun. POI vs POA should be a touch high, but not more than 60/40 on the pattern. Fit vs POI for true wingshooting is a different animal. A clamp on rifle style rear sight, adjusted all the way down might show you something. Just guessing, from here.

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I bought a smooth bore slug barrel with rifle sights on it for my A5. I then had a turkey choke installed and that gave me much better sight picture and an easier and lighter gun to tote in the woods!


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