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When do you dose your plots #2599363
10/05/18 12:03 PM
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With a second round of fertilizer?

Is there a better product for this than just using urea?

Thanks!

Re: When do you dose your plots [Re: Razorsharp123] #2599398
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We hit them with Nitrate right around Christmas or early January depending on temps/weather and what they are looking like.

Re: When do you dose your plots [Re: Razorsharp123] #2599466
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Ammonium nitrate or urea before a rain in mid to late dec. Normally, 100 lbs/acre of ammonium nitrate

Re: When do you dose your plots [Re: ronfromramer] #2599519
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Originally Posted by ronfromramer
Ammonium nitrate or urea before a rain in mid to late dec. Normally, 100 lbs/acre of ammonium nitrate



I've done this for decades, and nothing makes a plot green up better than a good dose of N. However, I've usually done it late November or early December. If you wait until it gets really cold it may not do as much good. Choosing the best time also depends on the part of the state you are in.


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Re: When do you dose your plots [Re: Razorsharp123] #2599739
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17-17-17 the ammonia nitrate is good but it’s a quick fix. We started using 17-17-17 and it holds or fields over until about March or so.

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Re: When do you dose your plots [Re: Razorsharp123] #2599740
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First good chance of rain in December here.


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Re: When do you dose your plots [Re: Razorsharp123] #2599991
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Another reason I plant in late October. Plant 3rd to 4th week in October. Fertilize early November. With clover in mix good for season.

Re: When do you dose your plots [Re: Razorsharp123] #2601982
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My plots are up about 2 inches, I plan on hitting it with 100lbs/acre ammonium nitrate Tuesday evening and pray for rain. I've already put out my p and k, at planting. I don't put out nitrogen at planting. I want it there when the plants are actively growing. I'll ad another round early December.

Re: When do you dose your plots [Re: Razorsharp123] #2602993
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All the T&M food plotters should be seeing an improvement in soil health and organic matter. An application of N or blended fertilizer applied after mid-October, along with some legumes in your seed blend, should be fine with only one initial application. Later applications of N will make plots a lil greener but I don’t think the powder is worth the pop. Healthy soil holds N much better and releases to plants as needed. Also the legumes (maintained year round) provides lots of N credit

Re: When do you dose your plots [Re: Razorsharp123] #2603170
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I use AN in late December but never until there is a high chance of rain in the forecast. If you apply it and you don't get any rain, you will likely burn it up.


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Re: When do you dose your plots [Re: Razorsharp123] #2604491
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Where yall finding ammonium nitrate?

All I can find without a bunch of paperwork is ammonium sulfate.


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Re: When do you dose your plots [Re: Razorsharp123] #2604629
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Why not use urea. Not many folks carry nitrate anymore. Dept homeland security shows up too much


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Re: When do you dose your plots [Re: Razorsharp123] #2604955
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34-0-0 is carried at all the co-ops in my area. You just pay for it, get loaded and leave, no paperwork.

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Re: When do you dose your plots [Re: Razorsharp123] #2605676
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Didn't want t start a spinoff, When do ya'll dose the first round? Before you seed, after you seed or during seeding?


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Re: When do you dose your plots [Re: jbatey1] #2605860
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Originally Posted by jbatey1
Didn't want t start a spinoff, When do ya'll dose the first round? Before you seed, after you seed or during seeding?


During

Re: When do you dose your plots [Re: Razorsharp123] #2605878
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P,K, and Ca are nutrients I try to keep running within good to optimum levels throughout the year. I don’t till and have built up pretty good holding capacity in my soil so I can get away with only adding P every 1-2 years now and K about every 10-12 months in order to bump those levels back up. The Ca or lime is has held for a few years. I'm just watching tests to see how many years before needing more.

Nitrogen is a little different than those other nutrients. I usually add a little bit at planting to help compensate for biomass tie up and then come back about 6-8 weeks later with a heavier application to really boost growth through the last part of hunting season. If you’re struggling to put out any growth in your plot then you can come back with N applications ever 7-8 weeks during spring and summer as well….although I don’t do that anymore. It seems like I have enough organic N in my soil now combined with the clover N credits that natural summer veg looks healthy.

How well your plot does or doesn't hold these nutrients is completely dependent on your soil type along with your management practices.

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Re: When do you dose your plots [Re: Razorsharp123] #2615790
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Try growmo

Re: When do you dose your plots [Re: Razorsharp123] #2641807
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Bumping this up for some info.

With all of the rain we have had, could I dose my plots this afternoon with urea or would I burn them?

Thanks!

Re: When do you dose your plots [Re: Razorsharp123] #2641827
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N will not burn long as foliage is dry. Don't put out in the morning dew or late in day. Make sure there good rain chance before you put untreated urea out. It volatilizes fast if not with all this moisture in the ground now.


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Re: When do you dose your plots [Re: sumpter_al] #2642132
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Originally Posted by sumpter_al
Where yall finding ammonium nitrate?

All I can find without a bunch of paperwork is ammonium sulfate.


Can you even find Ammonia Nitrate, even with a paper trail ?


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