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Re: Exceeding Max. HP
[Re: volfan]
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09/18/18 05:13 PM
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No law that makes it illegal in Alabama and there’s no federal regulation against it. Unless it’s grossly overrated, insurance will write a policy on it. Some will charge a slightly higher premium.
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Re: Exceeding Max. HP
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09/18/18 07:29 PM
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I've changed the stickers a couple of times on motors to match ratings.
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Re: Exceeding Max. HP
[Re: volfan]
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09/18/18 09:22 PM
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Just dont go backurds to fast
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Re: Exceeding Max. HP
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09/19/18 07:20 AM
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I've had one guy tell me he got a ticket. Said he had a 20 on a boat rated for a 15. He claimed he was fined $100 per hp. Think I'll give Brandon a call and discuss the insurance. That guy is full of chit.
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Re: Exceeding Max. HP
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09/19/18 01:13 PM
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No law that makes it illegal in Alabama and there’s no federal regulation against it. Unless it’s grossly overrated, insurance will cover it. Some will charge a slightly higher premium. Better read again! Only way for there to not to exceed rating is for MFG to have it rated as unlimited. Most Allisons, Strokers, some Bullets are that way.
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Re: Exceeding Max. HP
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09/19/18 01:24 PM
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No law that makes it illegal in Alabama and there’s no federal regulation against it. Unless it’s grossly overrated, insurance will cover it. Some will charge a slightly higher premium. Better read again! Only way for there to not to exceed rating is for MFG to have it rated as unlimited. Most Allisons, Strokers, some Bullets are that way. True for those over 20' long. No horsepower limitation/restriction on boats over 20'.
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Re: Exceeding Max. HP
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09/19/18 08:46 PM
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No law that makes it illegal in Alabama and there’s no federal regulation against it. Unless it’s grossly overrated, insurance will cover it. Some will charge a slightly higher premium. Better read again! Only way for there to not to exceed rating is for MFG to have it rated as unlimited. Most Allisons, Strokers, some Bullets are that way. The manufacturer is required to plate any monohull boat under 20’, but there is NO law that makes overpowering illegal.
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Re: Exceeding Max. HP
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09/20/18 07:02 AM
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No law that makes it illegal in Alabama and there’s no federal regulation against it. Unless it’s grossly overrated, insurance will cover it. Some will charge a slightly higher premium. Better read again! Only way for there to not to exceed rating is for MFG to have it rated as unlimited. Most Allisons, Strokers, some Bullets are that way. The manufacturer is required to plate any monohull boat under 20’, but there is NO law that makes overpowering illegal. Not sure this information is correct. Straight from ALEA's boating rules and regulations page, under "prohibited operations".... Operating a vessel after April 28, 1999 which violates federal laws regulating the horsepower of the engine of the vessel. 7th bullet point....
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Re: Exceeding Max. HP
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09/20/18 07:03 AM
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No law that makes it illegal in Alabama and there’s no federal regulation against it. Unless it’s grossly overrated, insurance will cover it. Some will charge a slightly higher premium. Better read again! Only way for there to not to exceed rating is for MFG to have it rated as unlimited. Most Allisons, Strokers, some Bullets are that way. The manufacturer is required to plate any monohull boat under 20’, but there is NO law that makes overpowering illegal. Not sure this information is correct. Straight from ALEA's boating rules and regulations page, under "prohibited operations".... Operating a vessel after April 28, 1999 which violates federal laws regulating the horsepower of the engine of the vessel. 7th bullet point....Bingo, exactly what I was saying yesterday.
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Re: Exceeding Max. HP
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09/20/18 07:13 AM
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No law that makes it illegal in Alabama and there’s no federal regulation against it. Unless it’s grossly overrated, insurance will cover it. Some will charge a slightly higher premium. Better read again! Only way for there to not to exceed rating is for MFG to have it rated as unlimited. Most Allisons, Strokers, some Bullets are that way. The manufacturer is required to plate any monohull boat under 20’, but there is NO law that makes overpowering illegal. Not sure this information is correct. Straight from ALEA's boating rules and regulations page, under "prohibited operations".... Operating a vessel after April 28, 1999 which violates federal laws regulating the horsepower of the engine of the vessel. 7th bullet point....Correct. The state regulation is to follow federal regs. However, there is no federal law that prohibits it, so technically there’s no way to be in violation. Some states have specific laws against it but, in Alabama, it’s completely legal. From the USCG site; It is not a violation of Coast Guard regulations to install or use an engine larger than specified on the capacity label, but there may be state regulations prohibiting it. There are no Coast Guard regulations against exceeding the safe loading capacity, however, there may be State regulations or restrictions which prohibit this. There is a Coast Guard regulation that gives Coast Guard Boarding Officers the power to terminate the use of a boat (send it back to shore) if, in the judgment of the Boarding Officer, the boat is overloaded. There is no fine for this, unless the operator refuses the Boarding Officer's order. We certainly hope that you will abide by the rating, as overloading may lead to capsizing or swamping of the boat. NOTE: The Coast Guard Capacity Information label is required only on monohull boats less than 20' in length. The label is not required on multi-hull boats, pontoon boats (catamarans), or on any sailboats, canoes, kayaks, or inflatable boats, regardless of length.
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Re: Exceeding Max. HP
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09/20/18 07:52 AM
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I just found this. This is from the Alabama boating course. Overloading and Unsafe Conditions
Alabama law designates certain dangerous operating practices as illegal. The following are examples of illegal and dangerous operation.
Overloading or Overpowering is loading the vessel with passengers or gear beyond the recommended capacity shown on the capacity plate (taking into consideration weather and existing conditions) or powering a vessel beyond the recommended horsepower shown on the capacity plate. It is illegal to operate, or allow others to operate, a vessel without a permanent capacity plate.
The boats I was interested in were rated for a max 75 hp and both have 90 hp motors. I don't think this is too hp for either boat, but I don't want to be worried about any problems caused by being over max recommended power. Thanks for all replies.
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Re: Exceeding Max. HP
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09/20/18 09:47 AM
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Insurance no pay. They not stupid, they can check serial #s, etc. Don't do it.
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Re: Exceeding Max. HP
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09/20/18 12:20 PM
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Insurance no pay. They not stupid, they can check serial #s, etc. Don't do it. I remember reading on a forum a few years back where duck hunters were replacing the engine cowls with a lower HP cowl. (the way I recall it, with some engines there is no difference between, say, a 25hp and a 40 hp, other than the tuning, and the cowls were interchangeable. They got busted and were ticketed. Granted, this is me just repeating what was said, but TIFWIW
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Re: Exceeding Max. HP
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09/20/18 01:34 PM
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I remember reading on a forum a few years back where duck hunters were replacing the engine cowls with a lower HP cowl. (the way I recall it, with some engines there is no difference between, say, a 25hp and a 40 hp, other than the tuning, and the cowls were interchangeable. They got busted and were ticketed. Granted, this is me just repeating what was said, but TIFWIW
My 185 Johnson has a 150 cowl. I thought the motor was a 150 for the first 6 months or so until I looked at the data plate when I needed a part.
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Re: Exceeding Max. HP
[Re: volfan]
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09/20/18 07:00 PM
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There's nothing more dangerous than an under horse powered boat. And..sadly half the manufacturer ratings MAX H.P. is underrated.
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