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Buckeye Tree #2582859
09/18/18 07:19 AM
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so I was at an undisclosed location this past weekend and found a patch of buckeye trees that the deer were absolutely tearing up... I was able to gather 7 or so up and wanted to try to get some on my lease growing. I don't know the first thing about growing hard mast trees. Anyone have any pointers?

Re: Buckeye Tree [Re: WallyGator0928] #2582867
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There's a bunch of buckeye trees on Wheeler Refuge but they drop before season opens. And yes, the deer absolutely hammer them.


I firmly believe that a double gallows should be constructed on the East Lawn of The White House. Politicians who willfully and shamelessly violate their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America should be swiftly tried and, upon conviction, publicly hanged at sunup the day after conviction. If multiple convicts are to be hanged they can choose with whom to share the gallows or names shall be drawn from the hangman's hat to be hanged 2 at a time.




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Re: Buckeye Tree [Re: WallyGator0928] #2583049
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Interesting. A friend of mine in Kentucky has them on his place. He said that buckeyes will kill his cattle if they ingest them. Any idea why it doesn't affect the deer? I've also read studies where squirrels will only eat small portions at one "sitting" in captivity. They'll later finish the uneaten portion of the buckeye. It's like they know just how much to eat without it killing them.

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Re: Buckeye Tree [Re: WallyGator0928] #2583066
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Had no idea they would eat them.I know I have a few around. Last year my hunting buddy sent me a pic of a buckeye and asked me if I had any Chestnut Trees growing along the creek. Lol A woodsman he is not.

Re: Buckeye Tree [Re: Runningdeer] #2583113
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Originally Posted by Runningdeer
Interesting. A friend of mine in Kentucky has them on his place. He said that buckeyes will kill his cattle if they ingest them. Any idea why it doesn't affect the deer? I've also read studies where squirrels will only eat small portions at one "sitting" in captivity. They'll later finish the uneaten portion of the buckeye. It's like they know just how much to eat without it killing them.


The same reason that acorns kill cattle, but not deer. The tannic acid released into a cow's body during digestion of acorns or buckeyes results in kidney failure.

Re: Buckeye Tree [Re: WallyGator0928] #2583156
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Are you sure they are Buckeyes / American Chestnut? or are they Horse Chestnut? Deer / wildlife do not eat Horse Chestnut. True American chestnuts in the wild are rare around here.

Re: Buckeye Tree [Re: WallyGator0928] #2583384
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Carry one in your pocket for luck or so I've always heard.


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Re: Buckeye Tree [Re: WallyGator0928] #2583416
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Yep supposed to be good luck. Never see anything eat one tho.

Re: Buckeye Tree [Re: WallyGator0928] #2583458
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If they are like most hard mast trees, you'll be planting them for your children or someone else's children. If you plan on hunting over them you probably need to go buy some sawtooth oaks.


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Re: Buckeye Tree [Re: Chris4x4Gill2] #2583468
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Originally Posted by Chris4x4Gill2
Are you sure they are Buckeyes / American Chestnut? or are they Horse Chestnut? Deer / wildlife do not eat Horse Chestnut. True American chestnuts in the wild are rare around here.


Big difference between a buckeye and a chestnut of any sort. We have several species of buckeye that grow here in Alabama. Yellow, red and ohio buckeyes are all fairly common in North Alabama/ southern Tennessee. Horse Chestnuts are also a buckeye and not really a chestnut.

Wallygator, did you find any of the husks or just the fruit? Were they coming from a larger tree or a shrub?

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Buckeyes I have seen are more of tall bush not a tree... about 8-10 feet in height.

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Originally Posted by jallencrockett
Buckeyes I have seen are more of tall bush not a tree... about 8-10 feet in height.


I found several stands of the bushes that you speak of on Wheeler Refuge and got to looking up and around. It turned out that I was standing under some buckeye trees that were 18" thru and 50 feet tall. The bushes had sprouted from the leftover buckeyes that the deer missed and I don't know if they'll ever grow to be very big due to being shaded out by the canopy above them. They biggest ones were bearing fruit though.


I firmly believe that a double gallows should be constructed on the East Lawn of The White House. Politicians who willfully and shamelessly violate their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America should be swiftly tried and, upon conviction, publicly hanged at sunup the day after conviction. If multiple convicts are to be hanged they can choose with whom to share the gallows or names shall be drawn from the hangman's hat to be hanged 2 at a time.




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Re: Buckeye Tree [Re: jallencrockett] #2583638
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Originally Posted by jallencrockett
Buckeyes I have seen are more of tall bush not a tree... about 8-10 feet in height.


They must be young ones, because buckeyes are real trees.


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Re: Buckeye Tree [Re: WallyGator0928] #2583641
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In south Alabama, never seen a buckeye over 8-10 feet

Re: Buckeye Tree [Re: WallyGator0928] #2583645
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7mm-08 where did you get acorns will kill cows? We've had cows all my life (I'm over 50) and they eat them like candy and never had a problem.

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Originally Posted by hillmp
7mm-08 where did you get acorns will kill cows? We've had cows all my life (I'm over 50) and they eat them like candy and never had a problem.


I've always heard acorns are not good for cattle. Maybe some acorns are different. Just what was past down.
I don't know.


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Re: Buckeye Tree [Re: WallyGator0928] #2583658
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Acorn poisoning isn’t all that uncommon in cattle, and can kil them dead.

Re: Buckeye Tree [Re: blade] #2583665
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Originally Posted by blade
In south Alabama, never seen a buckeye over 8-10 feet


Some like the red buckeye are shrubs, and others like the yellow or ohio are actual trees.

Acorns can kill cows if they eat enough of them at once. They will start to ferment and cause the cow to bloat or get tannin poisoning.

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Wiki list buckeyes as both a tree and a shrub. The patch I know of is growing underneath an english white oak. This species is definitely or atleast I believe so the shrub variety. I will look for a larger tree.in area.

Re: Buckeye Tree [Re: AU coonhunter] #2583860
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Originally Posted by AU coonhunter
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Wallygator, did you find any of the husks or just the fruit? Were they coming from a larger tree or a shrub?


found the nut/fruit and the husks which is why I assumed they were eating it (deer poop all around it as well. The trees were definitely trees but not tall, maybe 8-10 feet at most

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