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Did y'all notice the addition in MZ season? #2582992
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The big compressed air, heavy-caliber air rifles have been included in the special muzzleloader season for deer hunting this year.


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Re: Did y'all notice the addition in MZ season? [Re: Clem] #2582993
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Pretty cool. But there's probably like 12 guys in the whole state that have em. They should just make it like Mississippi where "primitive" means "not so primitive".

Re: Did y'all notice the addition in MZ season? [Re: Clem] #2582999
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They were in there last year. 30 caliber or larger.


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Re: Did y'all notice the addition in MZ season? [Re: Clem] #2583004
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Thanks, BC. Didn't realize they were in the MZ season-week last year.


West Virginia added a true "traditional" season this year, to be held in January only for flintlock or caplock percussion rifles (no optics) and long bows or recurves (no compounds, crossbows, etc.)


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Re: Did y'all notice the addition in MZ season? [Re: Clem] #2583013
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Wow that is truly incredulous and a mockery of a primitive season.

Re: Did y'all notice the addition in MZ season? [Re: Clem] #2583015
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Originally Posted by Clem
Thanks, BC. Didn't realize they were in the MZ season-week last year.


West Virginia added a true "traditional" season this year, to be held in January only for flintlock or caplock percussion rifles (no optics) and long bows or recurves (no compounds, crossbows, etc.)




Wheeler Wildlife Refuge has a flintlock / primitive hunt every January. Me and a buddy watched a boatload of guys run a huge 140-150 class buck off of an island up there two years ago. We were bow hunting by the main river and there was a slough behind us with a chain of islands out in it. They were dropping a guy off at the end of the island with a flintlock and then motoring to the other side and getting out and walking the island. Totally illegal. That old buck got up and walked across that slough about 100 yards from us because he could hear them coming. They were making all kinds of racket.


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Re: Did y'all notice the addition in MZ season? [Re: Clem] #2583022
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Re: Did y'all notice the addition in MZ season? [Re: BC] #2583035
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Originally Posted by BC
Originally Posted by Clem
Thanks, BC. Didn't realize they were in the MZ season-week last year.


West Virginia added a true "traditional" season this year, to be held in January only for flintlock or caplock percussion rifles (no optics) and long bows or recurves (no compounds, crossbows, etc.)




Wheeler Wildlife Refuge has a flintlock / primitive hunt every January. Me and a buddy watched a boatload of guys run a huge 140-150 class buck off of an island up there two years ago. We were bow hunting by the main river and there was a slough behind us with a chain of islands out in it. They were dropping a guy off at the end of the island with a flintlock and then motoring to the other side and getting out and walking the island. Totally illegal. That old buck got up and walked across that slough about 100 yards from us because he could hear them coming. They were making all kinds of racket.
What made it illegal, the fact they did it on an island ?

Re: Did y'all notice the addition in MZ season? [Re: jallencrockett] #2583044
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Originally Posted by jallencrockett
Wow that is truly incredulous and a mockery of a primitive season.


Alabama's muzzleloader season isn't really a true primitive season since it allows in-line rifles with scopes. Those are basically just single-shot centerfire rifles.


I've always wanted to do the Wheeler NWR flintlock season and just never have. Finding powder is the biggest problem, or has been for me.


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Re: Did y'all notice the addition in MZ season? [Re: BuckRidge17] #2583051
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Originally Posted by BuckRidge17
Originally Posted by BC
Originally Posted by Clem
Thanks, BC. Didn't realize they were in the MZ season-week last year.


West Virginia added a true "traditional" season this year, to be held in January only for flintlock or caplock percussion rifles (no optics) and long bows or recurves (no compounds, crossbows, etc.)




Wheeler Wildlife Refuge has a flintlock / primitive hunt every January. Me and a buddy watched a boatload of guys run a huge 140-150 class buck off of an island up there two years ago. We were bow hunting by the main river and there was a slough behind us with a chain of islands out in it. They were dropping a guy off at the end of the island with a flintlock and then motoring to the other side and getting out and walking the island. Totally illegal. That old buck got up and walked across that slough about 100 yards from us because he could hear them coming. They were making all kinds of racket.
What made it illegal, the fact they did it on an island ?



Man drives are illegal on WWR. There’s also restrictions to hunting islands less than 40
acres.


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Re: Did y'all notice the addition in MZ season? [Re: Clem] #2583348
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It's not Included in muzzle loader season, It is it's own season, It just so happens to coincide at the same time. It's been that way for 5 or 6 years.

Re: Did y'all notice the addition in MZ season? [Re: Clem] #2583368
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Didn't know that. Thanks. It's unclear that they're wholly separate in the 2018 regulation book where they're listed together:

ALL ZONES
SPECIAL MUZZLELOADER AND AIR RIFLE
Nov. 12-16


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Re: Did y'all notice the addition in MZ season? [Re: Clem] #2583402
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Take away the spear and add this. Makes a LOT of sense for primitive weapons. Stupid.

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Is Lewis and Clark primitive enough?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa4JQKNHP2M

Re: Did y'all notice the addition in MZ season? [Re: Clem] #2583423
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Yep, Lewis and Clark is primitive but, I do believe a spear trumps it on the "primitive scale". Neat video.

Re: Did y'all notice the addition in MZ season? [Re: Clem] #2583739
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Cool. Never heard of that old air rifle

Re: Did y'all notice the addition in MZ season? [Re: Alagator] #2583750
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Originally Posted by Alagator
Is Lewis and Clark primitive enough?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa4JQKNHP2M

That's amazing!
Learn something new every day.
I had no idea air rifles went back that far.


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Re: Did y'all notice the addition in MZ season? [Re: jallencrockett] #2583752
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Originally Posted by jallencrockett
Wow that is truly incredulous and a mockery of a primitive season.


Pffft I wish we could hunt with a single shot 45/70


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Originally Posted by James
Originally Posted by jallencrockett
Wow that is truly incredulous and a mockery of a primitive season.


Pffft I wish we could hunt with a single shot 45/70

Like Mississippi.
The NEF handing rifle, in 45 70 is legal over there for primative weapons season.


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Re: Did y'all notice the addition in MZ season? [Re: lefthorn] #2583821
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Originally Posted by lefthorn
Cool. Never heard of that old air rifle


The Girandoni air rifle was used by Lewis and Clark in part to scare the Indians.

https://www.grandviewoutdoors.com/guns/the-gun-that-actually-won-the-west-might-surprise-you/

I'd like to hunt with one just to say I did and satisfy my curiosity, but I don't think I'd invest in the gun, tank and such.


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