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Low concentration glyphosate over chufas #2515288
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I know for yellow nut grass I have to use a 4-5% glyphosate solution to do any good on it. So my question is this. Has anyone ever successfully used 2% glyphosate solution for controlling weeds in chufas and not hurt their chufas?


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Re: Low concentration glyphosate over chufas [Re: Willyb] #2516220
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Glyphosate doesn’t seem to affect Chufa. I’ve sprayed some fields 3 times this year with full rate 32 Oz Roundup Pro with AMS and other corn/soybean herbicides. Chufa are thriving in corn and soybean stands. Only “weed” in fields

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Thank you. That’s what I needed to know.


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Re: Low concentration glyphosate over chufas [Re: Willyb] #2516382
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I'm just thinking out loud but I don't know if glypho has much effect on anything with a bulb or tuber. I have sprayed weeds in bulb type flower beds many times with no ill effect other than maybe a little yellowing of the younger plants when the mix was strong. I bet that if it kills glorified nut grass (chufa) that it is only on the surface and will immediately return from the root.


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Re: Low concentration glyphosate over chufas [Re: Willyb] #2516758
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Originally Posted by Willyb
I know for yellow nut grass I have to use a 4-5% glyphosate solution to do any good on it. So my question is this. Has anyone ever successfully used 2% glyphosate solution for controlling weeds in chufas and not hurt their chufas?


I repeat do NOT spray your chufa with gly at any rate. By using gly on your chufa patch you stand a very good chance of killing your chufa!

If you want to control grass spray it with Clethodim and for broadleaf use Milestone. It can be mixed together so you only have to make one pass.


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Originally Posted by Squeaky
Originally Posted by Willyb
I know for yellow nut grass I have to use a 4-5% glyphosate solution to do any good on it. So my question is this. Has anyone ever successfully used 2% glyphosate solution for controlling weeds in chufas and not hurt their chufas?


I repeat do NOT spray your chufa with gly at any rate. By using gly on your chufa patch you stand a very good chance of killing your chufa!

If you want to control grass spray it with Clethodim and for broadleaf use Milestone. It can be mixed together so you only have to make one pass.




I agree with Squeaky. I have tried doing what you are considering, and I think it might be possible to make it work if you could get the dosage just right. What I found was that chufa is FAR more susceptible to gly than yellow nutgrass. Nutgrass will take a heavy dose of gly and not be bothered a bit, but it will kill or damage chufas at pretty low rates.

I have notes on it somewhere, but I think I used 10 oz of gly per acre and that killed some chufas and turned others brown. No effect at all on the nutgrass at that rate. I have tried 4 quarts of gly per acre on nutgrass and didn't kill it. There is probably some rate that you could use that would kill most grass and weeds and not damage chufas, but that rate will vary from year to year depending on rain, and field to field depending on fertility. It is so expensive to grow them that I'd rather spend the money for the right chemicals. They really aren't that expensive.

But I am all for thinking outside the box and trying to find a more efficient way to do something. Please tell us about it if you try. Good luck


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Re: Low concentration glyphosate over chufas [Re: Willyb] #2518679
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I still think I'm sitting on a gold mine. I have the most prolific sub species of nutsedge known to man in my garden. It will grow as thick as hair on a dogs back and the blades will reach 2 1/2 feet tall. It's got a nut on it as big as a big water oak acorn. I'm trying to kill it and should be selling it.


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Re: Low concentration glyphosate over chufas [Re: FurFlyin] #2518832
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Originally Posted by FurFlyin
I still think I'm sitting on a gold mine. I have the most prolific sub species of nutsedge known to man in my garden. It will grow as thick as hair on a dogs back and the blades will reach 2 1/2 feet tall. It's got a nut on it as big as a big water oak acorn. I'm trying to kill it and should be selling it.



Eat one and you will find out instantly if it's any good. A yellow nutsedge tuber has a taste that is something like kerosene. There aren't many critters in the woods who will eat them. A chufa has a pleasing flavor that reminds me of almonds. They are grown for human food in Spain; I really don't know why it has never caught on here. Might be a marketing opportunity there for someone. Anyway, one bite and you will know.

The eggheads can't agree on whether chufa and yellow nutsedge is the same plant. Some say it is and some say it isn't. It will not cross, even when growing side by side, so I agree with those who say it isn't. And the plants don't look alike at all once they are 50-60 days old.


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on my 40 ac here at the house I have areas in the field that have (had) it thick. Once the hogs find it they will almost eradicate it...it took about 3 complete rootings 3 years in a row but now there is just one that pops up here and there.

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I don’t think you can kill Chufa with herbicide. Glyphosate definitely hasn’t affected mine. I’ve got two plots that are about an acre each that just won’t die. I’ve sprayed them with everything you can imagine and they are still thriving.

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Originally Posted by RiverWood
I don’t think you can kill Chufa with herbicide. Glyphosate definitely hasn’t affected mine. I’ve got two plots that are about an acre each that just won’t die. I’ve sprayed them with everything you can imagine and they are still thriving.



I've seen chufas damaged and even killed by a number of different herbicides. If you are trying to kill them and can't, I would think it's likely yellow nutsedge instead of chufas. Can you make a picture and post it?


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Wish I could figure out how to post pics but y’all would get tired of me posting. I sprayed several fields couple weeks ago with 48 Oz Roundup Pro to plant green fields. Road by yesterday to see if fields were ready to plant. Looked like a dessert except for Chufa. They are thriving. Looks like I sprayed with the purpose of releasing Chufa. I’m not a turkey hunter. Someone gave me 2 bags of Turkey Gold a couple years ago and I planted them with my corn planter just to see what they would do. Apparently my soil is good for Chufa. I’ll plant small grain/clover mix right over them

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Originally Posted by RiverWood
Wish I could figure out how to post pics but y’all would get tired of me posting. I sprayed several fields couple weeks ago with 48 Oz Roundup Pro to plant green fields. Road by yesterday to see if fields were ready to plant. Looked like a dessert except for Chufa. They are thriving. Looks like I sprayed with the purpose of releasing Chufa. I’m not a turkey hunter. Someone gave me 2 bags of Turkey Gold a couple years ago and I planted them with my corn planter just to see what they would do. Apparently my soil is good for Chufa. I’ll plant small grain/clover mix right over them



Thanks for the reply. If you sprayed that much gly and they survived, then I feel sure that what you have growing is yellow nutsedge. I've found that it's almost impossible to kill yellow nutsedge with gly, but real easy to kill chufas. I tried the low volume gly over chufas many years ago and it killed or damaged them heavily. I have tried 4 quarts of gly and couldn't even bother the yellow nutsedge.

Many AL soils have yellow nutsedge present in them, and nothing stimulates it like growing chufas. So I have found that when I start growing chufas in a field, it is eventually taken over by yellow nutsedge. I have tried hand spraying the nutsedge in the chufa patch, but the only herbicides that will kill nutsedge will of course kill the chufas so it leaves bare spots in the field. The only real solution is to just move the field.

I suspect that you had a stand of dormant yellow nutsedge where you planted chufas and it has now taken over the field. But regardless of which plant it is, you can turn it under and grow your winter plots without issue. Good luck with it


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Maybe one day I’ll figure out this pic thing. If it’s yellow nutsedge it came in a bag from NWTF and said Golden Chufa on it. Seed was about the size of dog food and it is growing in perfectly straight rows from the corn planter. I’m certainly not a Chufa guy and wish I hadn’t planted them. Have never seen a turkey use them

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Originally Posted by RiverWood
Maybe one day I’ll figure out this pic thing. If it’s yellow nutsedge it came in a bag from NWTF and said Golden Chufa on it. Seed was about the size of dog food and it is growing in perfectly straight rows from the corn planter. I’m certainly not a Chufa guy and wish I hadn’t planted them. Have never seen a turkey use them



if the coons and turkeys aren't diggin them up, they aren't chufas that are coming back where you planted them, its sedge. promise you that's not what NWTF sent you because I get them every year and never had a problem


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I’m 100% sure these are Chufa. Be glad to send you a pic to post. Can’t keep coons and turkeys out of corn fields here. If you will pm me your cell I’ll send you pic next time I go by field

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Someone send me a cell # please so I can post my Chufa pics. Be glad when it stops raining so that I can do something other than post on Aldeer all day. We’ve got enough of a good thing

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Originally Posted by RiverWood
Someone send me a cell # please so I can post my Chufa pics. Be glad when it stops raining so that I can do something other than post on Aldeer all day. We’ve got enough of a good thing


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Originally Posted by RiverWood
Someone send me a cell # please so I can post my Chufa pics. Be glad when it stops raining so that I can do something other than post on Aldeer all day. We’ve got enough of a good thing



I sent you mine. Maybe we can solve the mystery


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Here it is, but it's a single plant and it's honestly hard for me to say with any certainty which it is. It is growing alone without bunching which is a characteristic of yellow nutsedge. When they are really thick, chufas can look like this, but this one doesn't seem to be thick. It looks like I see some herbicide damage on it, which chufa would be more likely to show.

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