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Re: 2018 akern crop thred [Re: Ben2] #2544895
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You obviously have never hunted a large , mature hardwood tract with a total acorn crop failure , they leave. Dirt and dried leaves ain't too nourishing , BTW.



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Everybody has their own system. I'll start looking a little early and identify which trees are loaded, usually like to find a small cluster of trees that have a lot of acorns and eliminate trees with no acorns. I like to hunt out of lock ons so I will hang a stand and clear shooting lanes early and then stay the hell out until I know they are starting to fall. However I've been hunting the same tract for almost 20 years and there pretty consistant on which trees will be best.


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Re: 2018 akern crop thred [Re: quailman] #2545085
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Originally Posted by quailman
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Akerns look to be average this year, but the persimmon trees are freaking loaded!

Spikes absolutely love persimmons!!!



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Re: 2018 akern crop thred [Re: lectrode] #2545095
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Originally Posted by lectrode
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Akerns look to be average this year, but the persimmon trees are freaking loaded!

Spikes absolutely love persimmons!!!



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Yeah all the female persimmon trees at the camp are so loaded some of the limbs are almost pointed straight down. Never seen that before.


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Re: 2018 akern crop thred [Re: slippinlipjr] #2546188
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Everything I've seen is loaded. Apples, pear, peaches, persimmons, acorns, muscadines, and blackberries. Lot of rain= lots of food.

Re: 2018 akern crop thred [Re: blumsden] #2546226
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Originally Posted by blumsden
Everything I've seen is loaded. Apples, pear, peaches, persimmons, acorns, muscadines, and blackberries. Lot of rain= lots of food.


That’s what I’ve been seeing too. Blackberries are ridiculous at my land in Bama. Going to be tough goings early on in the season. Lots of forage = little movement in my experience.

Re: 2018 akern crop thred [Re: 2Dogs] #2546695
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Originally Posted by 2Dogs
Little tip, yard trees are not reliable indicators as to what oaks will do in the forest.


Thats a huge huge negative ghost rider.. 30 years of comparing. Great indicator...

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Re: 2018 akern crop thred [Re: slippinlipjr] #2546713
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Been hinting the same tract in bullock cty for 40 years. I'm not going to hike 3/4 of a mile in August to look at the canopy of 100 foot white oaks. I know every tree and pretty much know when they drop within a week or so. Have a primary tree that drops starting about the week before bow season. Pretty much if the white oaks produce in my neighborhood I typically have a good crop in union springs.

Re: 2018 akern crop thred [Re: jallencrockett] #2546737
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Originally Posted by jallencrockett
Originally Posted by 2Dogs
Little tip, yard trees are not reliable indicators as to what oaks will do in the forest.


Thats a huge huge negative ghost rider.. 30 years of comparing. Great indicator...


I'm gonna disagree , and I'm betting some hardwood foresters will too. I have a huge red oak in my back yard , it hits every year, red oaks in the mountains don't. I've been watching the trees in my yard since 1991 .



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Re: 2018 akern crop thred [Re: slippinlipjr] #2546803
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2dogs I will agree there. I am talking specifically about white oak production. I have a shumard oak on a small tract in lowndes that has produced like once every 5 years. When it does it drops boocoo acorns the last week of January. I just check it every year and hope. It seems to produce only when it wants too.

I would also add that my house is at about the same relative elevation of 500 feet as my hunting land so in that regards my tree in city shares a similar climate as my white oaks in union springs.

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Re: 2018 akern crop thred [Re: slippinlipjr] #2546865
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We have a huge white oak at work that produces every single year. I've been here 30 years. The white oaks on my hunting properties DO NOT produce every year. Not only that, but some will be loaded while others are not. Late frost and drought effect acorn production, as well as canopy. A tree with zero competition will produce more consistently than a tree amongst thousands of other tree's. Cold air sinks. Some tree's in low spots may have been hit by a late frost. Lots of variables.

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I have a bunch of sawtooth oaks that I planted from seed about 10 yrs ago. They started dropping a few yrs back, not much, but some each year. This year there’s not a single acorn on any of them. I thought with the steady rains they would be loaded this year.

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Re: 2018 akern crop thred [Re: blumsden] #2546949
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Originally Posted by blumsden
We have a huge white oak at work that produces every single year. I've been here 30 years. The white oaks on my hunting properties DO NOT produce every year. Not only that, but some will be loaded while others are not. Late frost and drought effect acorn production, as well as canopy. A tree with zero competition will produce more consistently than a tree amongst thousands of other tree's. Cold air sinks. Some tree's in low spots may have been hit by a late frost. Lots of variables.


Acorn production is very complex. Often seems there is no rhyme or reason. Since we cut our timber in 05-06 we've never had a complete failure. Even 3 years ago in the great drought , I had acorns. I think it was year before last after the wet summer the absolute mountains had plenty of acorns and the big mountains connected to the Cumberland plateau did not. Only a few miles separated them. Trees with skidder rash will produce like a champ. There's way more to it than it's a dry year or wet year or we had a late freeze .



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Re: 2018 akern crop thred [Re: slippinlipjr] #2546988
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I’ve always been told that a drought will make trees produce better. When they are stressed it makes them mass produce. I’m guessing God did that to allow them to reproduce if they die.


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Re: 2018 akern crop thred [Re: slippinlipjr] #2547732
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Anything that effects the oak blooms in the spring will have an effect. Rain really not a factor except everyyhing does better with a little water.


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Re: 2018 akern crop thred [Re: lectrode] #2560298
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Sawtooths in my pasture are bare. Very unusual

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I got trees gpsed i go check evey year. Ill be lookin tomorrow.


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Re: 2018 akern crop thred [Re: slippinlipjr] #2560319
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Havent really looked at my oaks but my persimmon trees are loaded and the limbs are sagging


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Re: 2018 akern crop thred [Re: slippinlipjr] #2560807
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Red and water oaks are loaded. White oaks are bare


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Re: 2018 akern crop thred [Re: G/H] #2561195
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Originally Posted by G/H
Sawtooths in my pasture are bare. Very unusual



Same here. Very strange. Also my pear trees didn’t produce much my wild plum none and the persimmons have only a few. I wonder if the late freeze hurt them.


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