What comes of it?

1 year ago, NOTHING. In the current me too climate, he'll most likely be gone if I had to guess. It'll be for "Health" reasons though.

Media will squash this story for Urban.

In a month, Saban's boat running out of gas will have gotten more play in the media than this story.

Let's check back in a month. I believe you'll be wrong.

Really really dislike Urban Meyer but in this environment if he lied and was aware of abuse... HE GONE.

To be clear, I'm talking about dirt sticking to Meyer regarding this...not what may happen with Smith.

But, we'll see. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

I freaking hate Urban Meyer and think he's complete loser. The only team that I despise more than OSU is Notre Dame so dont think that I am in any way an OSU or Urban "homer". That said, none of this will stick to Urban. Unless I am reading it wrong, no charges were ever filed in the incident. You had a bunch of wives texting about it and Urban called the coach into his office and the coach denied it. Without charges being filed or an active investigation, it was simply a he said, she said, and Urban could not have been expected to do anything with regard to firing this coach at that time.

His fake heart doctor better be on standby...

He gone without a doubt ! This thing is snowballing rapidly.

But, he lied about knowing about it. It isn’t so much that he knew (although it went on for 3 years), it is that he lied about knowing. If it was bad enough for him to fire the guy it is bad that he lied about it. Why lie if it wasn’t a big deal?

Barrett Sallee is tweeting that Urban is stepping down. Don’t know whether to believe it or not.

That tweet is probably a fake. It's nowhere to be found in Sallee's twitter page.

Turning a blind eye to spousal abuse is cowardly. Plain and simple. Wonder if he will coach with Kiffin?

Probably so then. I don’t have a Twitter acct and a buddy texted that to me.

Urban is a lyin snake and would sell out his mother to win football games. He'll fabricate a good batch of lies to slither out of this mess.

Meyer reportedly meeting with the AD today.

I wouldn't be shocked if he's fired, or allowed to "resign" or whatever.

Medical reasons..........that is how he so elegantly left Gator Nation.

That coach has had 9 domestic violence police reports over the last few years. That's pretty damning right there. Unless the wife is found to be a crazy lunatic that made everything up, I don't see how Urban keeps his job

domestic violence is the biggest no-no for football right now. there will be blood ...

Head coaches know everything. They're like US Senators, with underlings and buffers and protectors and handlers.

But nothing gets done, approved, planned or anything without the top guy knowing and signing off on it. Ever. Anyone who says otherwise isn't thinking clearly.

Urbs knew all this about the assistant and did nothing, and lied publicly about it, and even tried to be flippant with the "who makes this up" bullchit.

and who is barrett sallee?

He has been placed on paid administrative leave....

Yep pending outcome of investigation. They are trying to get hin in hiding.

My man! Nail meet hammer. 100%

Supposively negotiating buyout. My question is if all the wives of coaches knew of abuse how can you promote or allow any of them to be interim coaches???

Someone has to be the fall guy. That’s all they care about.

He gone.

https://www.outkickthecoverage.com/urban-meyer-caught-lying-about-assistants-alleged-domestic-abuse/

Here's a good article about it

Urban on administrative leave pending investigation.
As the late, great Billy Cannon of Guntersville would have said, “It looks like ol’ Urban has done stepped on his dingdong.”

http://via.whnt.com/m2AW0

He's going to be gone.....you just can't survive lying/covering up this type of thing. The face that he ignored it, shows you his true character.

Shouldn't be much negotiation. If he knew and didn't report it, then he was in violation of Title IX laws and can be fired with cause. I'm assuming that being fire for a just cause could terminate any potential buy-out.

He's always been a howdy doody looking Mfer anyway.

I’m sure ESPN will hire him if he gets gone. Because they are his biggest fan.

That escalated quickly

Damn you. I just put a 10 week old down for a nice quiet nap. My laughing out loud at this comment almost woke her up.

yep he gone

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2018/...ve-amid-abuse-probe-fired-assistant.html

Poor urban...prolly got a trillion dollar buyout.....like nick does.....

Well we know who Alabama's next offensive coordinator will be.

He's a prime candidate for the Nick Saban coaching rehab program. Nicky would probably even let Urban bring his personal cardiologist with him.

Well we had Ped St. What we call Ohio St? B10 has some issues with hiding stuff.

If urban got a text from nick tonite....call 911.... He gone.....

Rick James U?

He's busy watching Hogan's Heroes on Netflix to get the "I know nothing" line down pat. They have proof that his wife knew, but until they show that he knew, nothing will come of it. If there is evidence that he knew, then he is toast.

I don't think there is any way that Meyer survives this. Too many e-mails and text were saved. And then there is this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3qX5NpgGDA

He's done. If the administration has gone this far it means the attorneys are making a lot of money to figure out how to show him the door. Only question is will they have to pay him and how much.

Leave it to 257 to get to the heart of the matter!

And y’all beat me to the St. Nick rehab comments.

Maybe Hugh Freeze and Urban can coach the Mean Machine in the next “Longest Yard.”

I just dont know about the whole deal. Is it really Urbans duty to deal with this personal situation? I mean isnt this what divorce is for. You are getting beat, tell your mom and dad and your inlaws about it and they tell you to be quiet, you text your husbands boss's wife and assume Urban knows, now he is in trouble. Are the girls parents or the supposed abusers parents in trouble? If not why not? I hate to see personal problems effect other people who did not ask to be involved. I hate it for the young lady if she was abused but I imagine this was not anything new with the deusch bag husband. Mixed feelings on this one.

You bring out some valid points. Looking at James post on Myers contract it spells it out that he is suppose to deal with it though. If what we are reading is accurate, he gone. Am I the only one that feels OSU fans don't care if he stays or goes?? Like they are luke warm on the results they have gotten from him??

There is no way he is fired. The guy was never charged or convicted of domestic abuse. What action was he supposed to take without reasonably certainty that it happened?

He's under obligation to report to the Title IX folks. It doesn't require a charge or conviction but if he has information regarding any sexual assault, abuse, stalking etc then he is under obligation by his contract to report it.

Report what? There is nothing to report.

He has admitted that he knew about the 2009 issue and he and his wife counseled them then. The issue isn’t that he knew as much as it is that he lied about knowing. The university knew about this, their attorney knew about it. Domestic violence is actually rarely charged. As a public school employee, the Title IX issues have a different standard of proof than a criminal charge.

Tell that to Art Briles.

They should run that money grubbing woman out of town on rails. He ex lost his job now her alimony and child support ( if she gets it ) has dried up and she’s looking for a paycheck.

https://www.facebook.com/TheBrettMcMurphy/posts/2042037522486968

COLUMBUS, Ohio – Text messages I have obtained, an exclusive interview with the victim and other information I have learned shows Ohio State coach Urban Meyer knew in 2015 of domestic abuse allegations against a member of his coaching staff.

Courtney Smith, ex-wife of fired Ohio State assistant coach Zach Smith, provided text messages between her and the wives of Ohio State coaches – including Urban Meyer’s wife, Shelley – showing Meyer’s knowledge of the situation.

Meyer said last week during Big Ten Media Days that he had no knowledge of two alleged domestic violence incidents in 2015 with former assistant wide receivers coach Zach Smith that were investigated by the Powell (Ohio) Police Department.

Meyer said had he known, he would have fired Smith in 2015 – three years before he did last week after I reported the alleged domestic violence.

“All the (coaches) wives knew,” Courtney said. “They all did. Every single one.”

On Wednesday, about 7 hours after my report, Ohio State announced Meyer had been placed on paid administrative leave and launched an investigation into the allegations.

"During the inquiry, Urban Meyer will be on paid administrative leave," according to an Ohio State statement. "Ryan Day will serve as acting head football coach during the investigation. We are focused on supporting our players and on getting to the truth as expeditiously as possible."

In a statement Meyer said: "(Ohio State athletic director) Gene (Smith) and I agree that being on leave during this inquiry will facilitate its completion. This allows the team to conduct training camp with minimal distraction. I eagerly look forward to the resolution of this matter."

What's unknown is if Ohio State was in violation of Title IX, which states: discrimination on the basis of sex, can include sexual harassment, rape, and sexual assault. A college or university that receives federal funding may be held legally responsible when it knows about and ignores sexual harassment or assault in its programs or activities.

The Ohio State University's sexual misconduct policy also may have been violated. Included in the Employees Duty to Report section it says:

"anyone who supervises faculty, staff, students, or volunteers" is responsible "in addition to the requirement of reporting incidents of sexual assault, the following members of the university community have an additional obligation to report all other incidents of sexual misconduct, when they receive a disclosure of sexual misconduct or become aware of information that would lead a reasonable person to believe that sexual misconduct may have occurred involving anyone covered under this policy. These individuals must report the incident within five work days of becoming aware of such information."

If Urban Meyer knew about the domestic violence issues, he may have violated his contract and could be fired with cause. The contract says he must "promptly report to Ohio State's Title IX Coordinator for Athletics any known violations of Ohio State's Sexual Misconduct Policy (including but not limited to sexual harassment, sexual assault, sexual exploitation, intimate violence and stalking) that involve any student, faculty or staff."

When asked specifically if he knew of the domestic violence incidents with Zach Smith, or if he had been told of them, Meyer said, “I was never told about anything. Never anything came to light, never had a conversation about it. So I know nothing about it. I asked people back at the office to call and see what happened, and they came back and said they know nothing.”

However, text messages I have obtained sent from Courtney Smith, Meyer’s wife Shelley; and other Ohio State coaches’ wives show Urban Meyer and a number of Ohio State assistant coaches were aware of Smith’s domestic violence issues for several years.

Courtney said Shelley Meyer, Urban’s wife of nearly three decades, knew about the abuse that begin in 2009, continued in 2015 and culminated with Zach Smith being served a domestic violence civil protection order last week.

Courtney said she and Shelley often discussed Zach’s domestic violence.

“Shelley said she was going to have to tell Urban,” Courtney said. “I said: ‘That’s fine, you should tell Urban.’ I know Shelley did everything she could.”

Shelley Meyer is a registered nurse and instructor of Clinical Practice at the Ohio State University College of Nursing. She too is bound by Title IX standards.

On Oct. 25, 2015, Courtney and Zach were separated. Zach came by her house, an argument ensued and then Courtney said he assaulted her.

“He took me and shoved me up against the wall, with his hands around my neck,” Courtney said. “Something he did very often. My (then 3-year old) daughter was clinging to my leg. It obviously registered with him what he was doing, so he took my (then 5-year old) son and left. So I called the police.”

Since Zach had already left, Courtney told the police not to come to the house because she had to calm her daughter down and put her to bed. The police said since Zach had left, they could come out the next day or she could come by the station the next morning. The report was officially filed on Oct. 26, 2015. Zach Smith has never been convicted of domestic violence.

One 2015 text exchange between Courtney and Shelley Meyer shows the extent of Shelley’s knowledge of the alleged domestic abuse and that she was concerned for Courtney’s safety.

Shelley: “I am with you! A lot of women stay hoping it will get better. I don’t blame you! But just want u to be safe. Do you have a restraining order? He scares me”
Courtney: “Restraining orders don’t do anything in Ohio-I tried to get protection order which is what started this whole investigation. And that should go through soon finally. It’s hard bc you have to prove immediate danger. Legal system is tough. Basically you have to prove he will kill u to get protective order”
Shelley: “Geesh! Even w the pics? Didn’t law enforcement come to your place ever??”

During Big Ten Media Days last week, Meyer was asked about the importance of wives helping coaches on and off the field, and how Shelley has impacted his coaching life.

“She’s always weighed in as my best friend and soul mate,” Urban said. “She’s been right there with everything. Especially when you’re dealing with – not who’s going to carry the ball on third down, she has an opinion on that too – we chat about people. She has a great spirit. A great love of people. Her heart is always in the right place. She’s phenomenal. Absolutely I rely on her.”

Two weeks after the Oct. 25, 2015 incident, a Nov. 5, 2015 text exchange between Lindsey Voltolini and Courtney shows Meyer talked to Zach Smith about the incident.

Lindsey is the wife of Brian Voltolini, considered one of Meyer’s most loyal staff members. Brian is Ohio State’s football operations director and has been part of Meyer’s staffs for 15 seasons at Bowling Green, Utah, Florida and Ohio State.

Courtney: “(Zach’s) trying to make me look crazy bc that’s what Shelley is saying (he’s doing)”
Lindsey: “He (Urban) just said he (Zach) denied everything”
Courtney: “I hope urban is smarter than that”
Lindsey: “He (Urban) doesn’t know what to think”
Courtney: “I don’t really care. Ya know”
Lindsey: “Yeah, don’t worry about urb”

Despite that common knowledge throughout the Woody Hayes Athletic Complex, Smith remained on Ohio State’s staff for six seasons until he was fired July 23 – only after I initially uncovered and reported earlier that day that Smith had a long history of domestic violence abuse allegations against Courtney.

Larry H. James, a Columbus attorney selected by Ohio State in 2011 as its lead counsel to represent its student athletes in NCAA investigations, said he was Zach Smith’s attorney in 2015. In November of 2015, James contacted Terry Thomas, then Courtney’s attorney, seeking information. Thomas would not reveal specifics of the conversation.

“He called me and asked ‘how bad was it?’ ” Thomas said. “I said ‘it’s bad.' I assume he wanted the information so he could report this back to his client.”

When contacted Wednesday morning, James said he did not forward any information to Ohio State because that would violate attorney-client privilege.

In 2011 James was selected by Ohio State to represent its players in Tattoo-gate, a tattoo for memorabilia tradeoff that led to the firing of beloved coach Jim Tressel.

During the 2015 call from James to Thomas, Courtney said that Zach’s attorney asked Thomas “if Zach would be a threat to the players?”

***

The first time Zach Smith allegedly physically abused his wife was June 21, 2009 in Gainesville, Fla. Courtney Smith, then 24, was 8-10 weeks pregnant.

On June 20, 2009, Florida was coming off its second national title in three seasons under Meyer. Urban and his wife threw a party before their hard-working staff members left for summer break. After the party, Courtney said she went home, while Zach went out with some buddies. Courtney said Zach returned home drunk around 3 a.m. with a female co-worker, who Zach called “baby,” pleading with Courtney to let the woman spend the night with them, according to a Gainesville police report.

Courtney said the woman was Amy Nicol, who at the time was Meyer’s secretary at Florida. For the past six years Nicol has been director of internal operations for Ohio State’s football program and a member of Meyer’s staff a total of 10 seasons. According to the police report, Zach said that night Amy “was upset from breaking up with her boyfriend” and needed a place to stay.

Courtney refused and drove Amy home. Upon returning “a heated argument ensued in the upstairs bedroom. Courtney stated she tried to get Zach out of her bed, which he refused and then forcefully grabbed her,” according to the police report.

The report said Zach Smith, then 25, “picked (Courtney) up, by grabbing her T-shirt and threw her against the bedroom wall.”

It was the Smith’s one-year wedding anniversary.

Zach Smith, then in his fourth year on UF’s staff, was handcuffed and arrested for aggravated battery on a pregnant victim. Meyer said last week at Big Ten Media Days that in 2009 he and his wife Shelley “advised for counseling and wanted to help” the couple.

“As I do many times, most coaches and people in leadership positions, you receive a phone call,” Meyer said at Big Ten Media Days. “The first thing you do is tell your boss, let the experts do their jobs.

“We're certainly not going to investigate. It came back to me that what was reported wasn't actually what happened.”

A few days after Zach’s 2009 arrest, Courtney said two of Meyer’s closest friends – Hiram de Fries and Earle Bruce – asked her to drop the charges. Bruce is Zach Smith’s grandfather, de Fries is Meyer’s “life coach.”

Bruce, who died in April, has a special place in Meyer’s heart. Bruce succeeded Woody Hayes at Ohio State from 1979-87, posting an 81-26-1 record in nine seasons.

“He is the strongest relationship I’ve ever had other than my father,” Meyer said last week. “I’ve made that clear many, many times.”

Bruce and Zach’s mother drove from Ohio to Gainesville to ask Courtney to drop the charges, Courtney said. Courtney said she also received a call from de Fries to set up a meeting at Panera Bread on SW Archer Road in Gainesville.

Meyer and de Fries’ relationship goes back more than 20 years, when Meyer was an assistant at Colorado State in the 1990s. Unofficially, de Fries has been a professional life skills expert the past two decades. His official title at Ohio State: special assistant to the head coach.

In “Urban’s Way,” a 2008 book on Meyer written by Buddy Martin and authorized by Meyer, Meyer said: “Hiram is like my uncle. Hiram is my ‘chemistry coach.’ When I was a young coach, I always said I wanted to have an older guy as the chemistry coach on my staff to help us all get on the same page.”

When asked last week how important de Fries was to the Ohio State program, senior offensive tackle Isaiah Prince said: “Having Coach Hiram around, he’s like the grandfather of the team. He’s got that wisdom. He has been here a long time and he has been through a lot. He always knows when something is wrong even when you don’t say anything. He’s a great resource to have. Everybody loves him.”

On a July morning in 2009, Courtney Smith sat across the table from de Fries, a former attorney and Shell Oil executive. Courtney said de Fries pressured her to drop the charges.

“He said ‘if you don’t drop the charges, Zach will never coach again,’ ” Courtney said. “ ‘He’s never hit you before. He was drinking. He’ll probably never do it again. You should think about giving him a second chance.’ “

Ultimately, Courtney said she relented to de Fries and didn’t press charges. Courtney had convinced herself this would never happen again.

She was wrong.

***

After spending five seasons with Meyer at Florida, Zach was an assistant at Marshall in 2010 and Temple in 2011. Meyer and Smith were reunited the following season when Meyer returned to coaching at Ohio State.

“Zach Smith has already coached with me for five seasons and so I know what a quality coach he is," Meyer said when Smith was hired as Ohio State’s wide receivers coach on Dec. 22, 2011. “He knows my system inside and out and he teaches the system the way I want it to be taught.”

Three months later, the Smith’s second child was born on March 23, 2012.

“When we came to Columbus and after I had my daughter (in 2012), things got really bad,” Courtney said. “I believed his life was spiraling out of control. He was only 28 when he got (the Ohio State job), his grandmother died. Maybe it was the stress but he was emotionally and physically abusing. Pushing me against the wall, putting his hands around my throat. There were so many instances. It’s hard to recall all of them.”

Courtney said she left Zach on June 6, 2015 – but the violence and harassment didn’t stop, including the incident on Oct. 25, 2015 and a Nov. 9, 2015 menacing by stalking charge against Zach by the Powell Police.

On the original Oct. 26, 2015 Powell Police report, a box on the form was checked indicating Zach had been arrested. However, nearly three years later – after I reported the incident last week – the Powell Police released a revised version of the report to the media and the arrest box was no longer checked.

“The terminology used by the Police Department was different in the original report (dated 10/26/2015) and inconsistent with what actually occurred,” said Megan Canavan, director of communication for the Powell Police Department.

That same report states: “The victim reports that a domestic incident happened last night at (Courtney's) home and that she has been a victim of sustained physical abuse by the suspect.”

On Nov. 10, 2015, Courtney was granted a restraining order against Zach.

Two days later – on Nov. 12, 2015 – after years of abuse, verbal intimidation, threats, bullying, bruised and beaten body parts, according to police reports, text messages and photos, Courtney filed for divorce.

Zach’s attorney had the Smith’s divorce documents sealed “ex parte,” without Courtney’s consent, according to an e-mail I obtained from Courtney’s attorney, shielding Zach’s alleged abuse from going public. The records were sealed Nov. 23, 2015 by Delaware County (Ohio) Common Pleas Judge Everett H. Krueger “in order to protect certain businesses and personal interests which, if published, may negatively affect (Zach Smith’s) occupation.”

The divorce documents were unsealed and released this morning.

No one really knew the hell Courtney was going through except the authorities, family members, members of Ohio State’s coaching staff – and their wives.

“I know why nothing was done. Everyone was out to protect themselves. Zach had people that were far more powerful than I would ever be that were protecting him and for the wrong reasons. I think people that knew (about the abuse) should have helped me. Instead, they chose to enable an abuser.”

Courtney said the text messages she received from the coaches’ wives were always supportive and sympathetic. She said Shelley Meyer was a frequent texter.

Photos that Courtney said she shared via text with other wives show bruises on Courtney’s neck and arms from beatings she suffered in 2014 and 2015. Another photo shows blood gushing out of her thumb when Zach cut her with the metal top of a smokeless tobacco can after another 2014 incident.

Courtney said during her ordeal, Shelley was always supportive. “She would constantly text me and check up on me and see how I was doing,” Courtney said.

***

Back in 2009 in Gainesville, Courtney Smith needed help. She was a frightened, battered 24-year old newlywed with nowhere to turn. She was convinced by Urban Meyer’s top confidant and future “special assistant to the head coach” that there was too much at risk to press charges against Zach.

In Ohio, she found herself in a similar situation. Courtney said she called 911 “a handful of times” over the years but didn’t always pursue charges.

“I hung up out of fear because I was scared Zach would lose his job,” Courtney said. “He threw me down on the bathroom floor (in April of 2015) and screamed ‘look what you’ve turned me into.’ I don’t know what he was on. Another time, he took the top of a dip can and cut my hand. Everyone – all my family – said don’t call 911. If you do, he’ll get fired.”

Brenda Tracy, 44, is the nation’s leading advocate in the battle against sexual and relationship violence in college football. In 1998, she was gang raped by four men, three of them were college football players. She travels the country speaking to high school and college athletes and coaches about her experiences and the ways they can work to end rape culture.

“It’s very upsetting someone with this type of violent history would have been on Ohio State’s staff that long,” Tracy said. “(His firing) should’ve happened sooner.”

Tracy said Courtney’s fear to file charges is normal for domestic violence victims.

“In cases of domestic violence there are many things the victim has to think about,” Tracy said. “Often times there’s mental, emotional, physical and financial abuse going on. The victim may be completely dependent upon this person for housing, money and food. They may be dependent on this person to help them meet the basic needs of life for them and their children.

“Society thinks it’s simple: if he hits you, just leave. But it’s never that simple. There are many things to consider and the lack of understanding by our society about the dynamics of domestic violence makes everything even more difficult for the survivor.”

At the time of his firing, Zach was earning $340,000 a year. Courtney had not worked since 2010 when Zach was hired as a full-time assistant at Marshall.

In September of 2015, a month before Courtney officially filed for divorce, Zach continued to send threatening text messages.

Zach texted Courtney: “The past 3 months. You were going to try to give me a chance a week ago and now, even though I have done NOTHING WRONG since then, you’re done with me. I will kill that bitch and everyone involved. For ruining my life. I am getting myself right and getting punished. F--- all of you.”

Zach to Courtney: “Just know that now… I will find you when your out. I will come seek the douche your with. I will f--- him up to the point that no one will recognize him”

Despite Zach never having been convicted of any charges, on July 20, Delaware County court of pleas magistrate David J. Laughlin issued a domestic violence civil protection order against Zach.

Laughlin’s ruling said: “the court finds that (Courtney Smith) is in immediate and present danger of domestic violence and for good cause the following temporary orders are necessary to protect the persons named (Courtney Smith and her children Cameron, 8, and Quinn, 6) in this order from domestic violence.”

Bradley Koffel, Zach Smith’s attorney, dismissed the domestic violence allegations and the recently issued five-year domestic violence civil protection order against Zach.

“OSU was put in a corner by the unfounded accusations of an ex-wife who weaponized 911 many times over the years,” Koffel told The Columbus Dispatch last week.

***

In 2002, Smith walked-on to the Bowling Green football team to play for Meyer. He later followed Meyer to Florida. In all, Smith was on Meyer’s coaching staffs for 11 seasons – five at UF, six at Ohio State.

Police records in Florida and Ohio document a history of domestic violence allegations, and a trail of physical and verbal abuse, stalking and intimidation by Zach Smith, 34. He spent nearly one-third of his life working for Meyer, one of the most successful and powerful football coaches of all-time.

Until Smith was fired last week, he was the only remaining assistant from Meyer’s first staff at Ohio State after Meyer took over in 2012.

In April, Meyer received a contract extension from Ohio State through Jan. 31, 2023 that will pay him an average of $8.49 million per year over the life of the five-year contract. He is the nation’s second highest paid coach, behind Alabama’s Nick Saban.

Meyer has won a total of three national titles at two different schools and one of only four coaches in college football history to do so. Yet, Meyer proudly states his on field success with the Buckeyes is matched only by the team’s off-the-field “core values.”

In the Woody Hayes Athletic Complex, emblazoned on the wall, are Meyer’s five core values. Among the five – in ALL CAPS – is “TREAT WOMEN WITH RESPECT”

“The core values is something that – there’s a difference between a mistake and a core value,” Meyer said last week at Big Ten media days. “When I was six years old, I was sat down by my father and it was explained to me about what core values are and what mistakes are. Mistakes are correctible. Core values are who you are.”

So why would a coach at the top of his profession, jeopardize his entire career and legacy – and ignore his core values – because of a sense of loyalty to former mentor Earle Bruce?

“Zach once told me,” said Courtney, “if he ever got fired and this all comes out: ‘I’ll take everyone at Ohio State down with me.’ ”

Yep. According to Title IX, you are guilty until proven innocent. This is the People's Republic of Amerika after all...

"paid administrative leave" is just a nice way of saying "We're working out details about how to mitigate OSU's public damage while negotiating a settlement package."


I believe she's right and hope her pile of shitt ex-husband never works again and Meyer joins him. They're horrible sumbitches for not being real men.

Any man that abuses a woman physically, verbally, emotionally or otherwise is nothing but a pile of shitt and anyone who enables or supports someone like that also is a pile of shitt.

Zach Smith is also the grandson of former OSU coach Earl Bruce. Urban Myers mentor. Who just passed away a few weeks ago but Myer didn’t fire Smith until after Bruce’s death.

He gone!

meyer left a mess at florida. he's leaving a mess at ohio state. he hasn't learned ...

well said, clem ...

When he left florida he said the program was "broken". And he was right bc he broke it.............

And she's got pictures............no way he survives this mess.

https://www.facebook.com/TheBrettMc...968/2042029709154416/?type=3&theater

Initially thought he’d escape but after reading BC’s post of the Brett McMurphy story, Urban is toast. He Violated his contract, he and Shelly violated their Title IX requirements, and that doesn’t address any ethical issues.

Dang he’s toast.

According to the report that sparked all this, Courtney Smith, the abused wife, texted this with the wife of one of Meyer's closest longtime assistants:

Courtney: “(Zach’s) trying to make me look crazy bc that’s what Shelley is saying (he’s doing)”
Lindsey: “He (Urban) just said he (Zach) denied everything”
Courtney: “I hope urban is smarter than that”
Lindsey: “He (Urban) doesn’t know what to think”
Courtney: “I don’t really care. Ya know”
Lindsey: “Yeah, don’t worry about urb”

Two weeks after the Oct. 25, 2015 incident, a Nov. 5, 2015 text exchange between Lindsey Voltolini and Courtney shows Meyer talked to Zach Smith about the incident.

Lindsey is the wife of Brian Voltolini, considered one of Meyer’s most loyal staff members. Brian is Ohio State’s football operations director and has been part of Meyer’s staffs for 15 seasons at Bowling Green, Utah, Florida and Ohio State.

https://www.facebook.com/TheBrettMcMurphy/posts/2042037522486968



Based on this, if this is correct, Meyer knew in 2015 about what happened. The "he denied everything" text implicates him having knowledge and a convo with Zach Smith about it.

Meyer flat-out lied about this a couple of weeks ago and said he never heard anything and implied that the initial report was made up. Meyer tried the "fake news" bullchit without using that phrase.

Now he's exposed.

Head coaches know everything. They always do.

He's always been a lyin POS and a con artist. He's now being exposed.

Good riddance. He'll be lucky to get a 3A high school job next year.

Pile on time.


https://www.projectveritas.com/2018/08/02/an-unfair-game-urban-meyer-a-history-of-abuse/

It's not the act that get you, it is the lie that you tell about it that does you in.

I want to know what zach Smith has on urban.

Considering he was with him at Bowling Green, Florida and OSU, I'd say enough to make sure a lot of people are worried.

I’m guessing that besides being the grandson of Earl Bruce he knows where the bodies are buried in Bowling Green, Utah, Florida and Ohio State. Every coach is an enabler because all they are hired to do is win. Like Clem said, Mayer overlooked the spousal abuse because he knew it would mess up his inner circle. The head coach knows everything. They may not admit it but they do.

lot of stuff from former players hitting the web now. Several gada players talking about urban........

Latest news by The AP:


Ohio State coach Urban Meyer won’t be appearing in ads for Bob Evans restaurants.

The Ohio-based restaurant chain announced this week that Meyer would appear in ads as the “head breakfast coach.” But that partnership was nullified Thursday amid a university investigation into Meyer’s handling of domestic abuse allegations against a former assistant coach.

The company tweeted that it was “suspending the current partnership with Urban Meyer and removing all related content pending the results of the official Ohio State University investigation.”

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A hearing on a protective order against fired Ohio State assistant football coach Zach Smith won’t happen Friday.

The clerk’s office in Delaware County says the next hearing on the case is now scheduled for Sept. 14. The office didn’t know why the Friday hearing was canceled and attorneys for Zach Smith and ex-wife Courtney didn’t respond to messages left Thursday.

How much does the OSU Dr. allegations of sexual misconduct play into Meyers future?? I think it may be totally seperate but will influence the outcome due to OSU trying to protect their image.

It would be best to just can him with the violations in his current contract. No need for the school to go thru a LONG drawn out investigation.

Shelley needs to be fired too, right?

According to the way the media is presenting this to us, I would say yes.

But I don't hold everything I read from the media as the gospel.

Shelley is an employee of the Nursing School. No doubt she knew about the abuse and did not report it. According to their rules, she should be fired.

Since there is no football right now this is THE story. It would be THE story anyway but the media would have to share other stories. But just how big of a fallout could come from this?? We all know school, players, and assistants will be affected. What about other schools though?? Meyer gets fired and OSU goes on to beat Michigan. What does that do to Harbaugh?? Already mention of recruits backing off of OSU. How does that help others in the league?? IF Meyer gets fired, it could affect a lot more than OSU.

The real question is where is Kirk Herbstreit during all of this? His beloved suckeyes and Urban he has to be a complete wreck.

Im surprised that Urban can be as much of a jerk as he appears to be with Tebow being such a fan of him. Tebow seems genuine enough that there is no way he would be a friend of Urban if urban is half the scum we all view him to be... That part puzzles me???

So I guess ole Stormy was lying? Or telling the truth?

He was on Sportscenter at 6, and will be on again tonight at 10.

People still watch sportscenter?

I think it is just a matter of how much $$$$$$$$$$$ that he and his wife can get to walk away right now. He will probably show up with a pro team in a year or two.

And you're probably right.And that's just a damn shame,in my opinion...

The same thought occurred to me.

Urban is enough of a snake oil salesman to dupe Tebow, who has never impressed me as a particularly bright guy. Maybe a good guy, and unable the see or believe the evil in others due to naivety.

Tebow is gay anyways

Domestic violence when it comes to sports, everybody, for some reason is supposed to be fired. What about the parents of the victim and the husband, they new about it and done absolutely nothing. Are they going to loose their job too? Hell no. To me, the parents need their asses handed to them for not stepping in, early on. Urban should've fired him in 2015, and he will probably loose his job now, but only in sports is everybody else to blame but the people who actually done something wrong.

This is kind of touchy. Not condoning it, but firing someone for an accusation against one of his employees that wasn't really related to work? Do we want to start going there?

Already have thanks to #me too and the Democrats. The whole world is going to hell and the Democrats are driving the bus.......

Some folks are held to higher standards. Coaches are among those folks, especially those making $6 million a year at one of the biggest institutions and entities in the nation.

The university relies on attendance (students), donors and attempts to mitigate or control damaging issues. This is one of them. LIke any big entity, universities also have their own rules and policies.


When Mike Price was fired at Alabama for his club-stripper-whatever shenanigans, the Board of Trustees was split about it. Several of them did not want to cut him loose, essentially saying he didn't do anything they could prove and it would all blow over since They Were Alabama. That was the gist: we're bigger than this and it'll all blow over and we'll control this. Fortunately, the sane people overruled them and they fired Price, weathered the 3-4 years and came out far better.

Keeping Price would've been disastrous for multiple reasons: loss of trust, fans being unrelenting, media, parents of players and recruiting, donations, overall the donations as UA was trying to build its finances and campus renovations then and future, and at the least having a coach who publicly sullied the name and reputation. So you pay the guy (or don't pay him, depending on the contract language) and move on.

OSU's in that same boat looking at recruiting, donations, constant public ridicule - far worse than a coach with a stripper or whore, like Ol' Goob at Ole Sis - and other considerations. If they fire him they'll move on and be fine. If they keep him, IMO they're asking for a lot of trouble and it won't end well.

I feel the biggest difference as far as being fired is this was in his contract. It was spelled out to him how to handle these situations. If all we are reading is true, he broke the agreement.

He’s now in bigger trouble because he issued a statement via Twitter. He’s not supposed to say anything to anyone while under investigation by the university.

2 weeks ago:

OSU: Timeline for investigation is 2 weeks.

Today:

OSU: No timeline. Investigation will be finished when it’s finished.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/1017819002

Either they're finding out more and it might get fuglier, or their girding their loins to man battle stations before announcing Urb will return after x-games suspension or something,

Yep

He isn't going anywhere. Anyone that thought that from the beginning is naïve. There are forces at work here that short of raping the pope on national TV ol Urban will be walking the sideline this fall. We are just waiting to see who gets paid to fall on the sword.

Mark Packer on ESPNU radio reported 30 minutes ago that OSU announced they would be done with the investigation Sunday.

He'll be punished with "time served" and nothing else will come of it. The AD at maryland...thats another story after what was reported on jox today.

WTH

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/1024780002


Freak show......... lmao


Fired Ohio State assistant football coach Zach Smith sent a picture of his penis from a White House bathroom among other locales and had more than $2,000 worth of erotic toys, apparel and photo equipment sent to his office at the school in 2015, according to a published report Friday night.

Stadium reported that Smith, citing photos it had obtained, sent a photo from April 20, 2015 - the same date of Ohio State’s White House visit after winning the 2014 national title - where his penis could be seen alongside a towel that had the Seal of the President of the United States.

Courtney Smith, the ex-wife of Zach Smith, also told Stadium that he “took multiple photos of his penis inside the Ohio State coaches’ offices” and he “photographed himself in the coaches’ offices receiving oral sex and having sex with a OSU staffer."

I hope it was with a woman.

He was Probably giving Urban the ole Oscar Mayer

Maybe that's why it took Urban so long to fire him...

So they are saying it will be over when its over. Cant see any way they can finish investigation till after Sept 15 trial date?

So The OSU is playing this like pros with some serious legal guidance. The entire urban investigation as been reported to have been conducted with verbal record only. Because of this there can be no Freedom of Information Act request for written records. Wow that is CYA level 10 !!!