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Killing trees #2533652
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I am wanting to create a new food plot and know I need to get rid of a bunch of trees. If I girdle or hack and squirt appropriate poison will the trees lose the leaves and let in enough light for planting a fall plot I'm September? There are some big trees and I do not have big equipment also I'm thinking of safety when taking out big trees.


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Re: Killing trees [Re: AUwrestler] #2533771
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No. Girdling and hack & squirt are effective but slow. More like few years for complete kill and for tree to fall. May need to get out chainsaw

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Originally Posted by RiverWood
No. Girdling and hack & squirt are effective but slow. More like few years for complete kill and for tree to fall. May need to get out chainsaw


Correct

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We girdled a few big hardwood trees with a chainsaw and also did hack a squirt with tordon rtu. I was disappointed in the results. A year later and no visible effect on the trees. We got the herbicide on amazon so someone may have sold us dud.

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I’ve used 25% solution of Arsenal with water in a spray bottle. Excellent results. At first I thought you needed to make a deep cut into tree. Later learned that you need to make a shallow cut so that solution can be absorbed through the cambium layer just inside bark

Re: Killing trees [Re: AUwrestler] #2534706
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I have 2 Hackberries I'm trying to kill. I'm in no hurry. Not small trees, probably 20" DBH. I drilled 4 holes with 3 /4 bit at on angle down around each tree about waste high. Filled each hole with undiluted 41% gly because that is what I had on hand. Been about 3 weeks and all leaves are totally brown. Time will tell how this works.

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Thanks guys. I know the tree will not fall and rot within a year or 2. But will leaves fall off in time to plant a fall plot without having to cut them down? YouTube has not helped much. If anything I will cut down small trees and H&S the larger ones that are not oaks or persimmons. And then plan on having plenty of light next spring for a perrenial clover plot.


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Re: Killing trees [Re: AUwrestler] #2534910
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I'm gonna guess that the leaves will respond according to type of tree and chemical. As I said the Hackberry trees i put gl y in have completely browned in about 3 weeks so I would say in about three more weeks they will be gone. Much quicker than I would have thought. But we have been getting a lot of rain and that plays into it.

Re: Killing trees [Re: AUwrestler] #2534918
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I would hire someone with an excavator. They would make short work of the tree's and you wouldn't have to worry about stumps. $110/hour around here, 4 hr minimum.

Re: Killing trees [Re: AUwrestler] #2534931
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If you are going to poison trees near the oaks, etc, that you want to keep, then I would use 2-4-D or Garlon 4. Imazapyr will kill everything within 15 or 20 feet.

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If you are serious about it just cut it down rent a stump grinder. Done.


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Originally Posted by blumsden
I would hire someone with an excavator. They would make short work of the tree's and you wouldn't have to worry about stumps. $110/hour around here, 4 hr minimum.


Yea, I could get mine up with my dozer. Just dig around them and push them over. Then push dirt back in. I may do that when the temps cool this fall. But as I said, I'm in no hurry. It is only to make my road straight whereas I'm going around these trees now.

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Originally Posted by timbercruiser
If you are going to poison trees near the oaks, etc, that you want to keep, then I would use 2-4-D or Garlon 4. Imazapyr will kill everything within 15 or 20 feet.

Spraying imazapyr around hardwoods is risky. Using it in a hack & squirt has no risk of injuring other trees. The chemical stays in the targeted tree and will not leave that tree and injure neighboring trees. Have killed thousands of sweetgums and never had any collateral damage

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Originally Posted by RiverWood
Originally Posted by timbercruiser

Spraying imazapyr around hardwoods is risky. Using it in a hack & squirt has no risk of injuring other trees. The chemical stays in the targeted tree and will not leave that tree and injure neighboring trees. Have killed thousands of sweetgums and never had any collateral damage


Incorrect. There is a chance of injury to nearby susceptible trees, albeit slight. I have seen it several times with imazapyr, picloram, Velpar, Milestone, and Method. It doesn’t happen often and you are correct it is very safe, but it can’t be said there is no risk.


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BASF did testing with arsenal in a hack & squirt test plot at Riverwood several year ago. Stasticially there is no risk to surrounding hardwoods

Re: Killing trees [Re: AUwrestler] #2535424
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Question, what's the plan when all those large, dead trees start falling?



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Originally Posted by 2Dogs
Question, what's the plan when all those large, dead trees start falling?

First get out the way. But they should drop branches then fall at separate times most likely when I am not there. I will then cut them up and use a firewood. I'm just not comfortable cutting 60 ft trees down. Have a friend who does tree work. May ask him to help.


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By the time they fall they will be no good for firewood


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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
By the time they fall they will be no good for firewood


This

Re: Killing trees [Re: AUwrestler] #2615399
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I think you are going to spend a LOT of time and not get the result you are wanting. A dozer or excavator is by far the best method. Cutting a 100 foot shooting lane and putting a feeder just out of sight at 100 yards behind natural vegetation would be legal.

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