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Honey Harvest #2518938
07/01/18 09:39 PM
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Got about 15 gallons off of four hives this weekend. Learned a new trick. An electric filet knife with one blade does just as good uncapping as a hot knife.

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Re: Honey Harvest [Re: Wade] #2518976
07/01/18 10:21 PM
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Looking good!

I actually think an electric knife is better than a hot knife.


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Re: Honey Harvest [Re: Wade] #2519159
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Looks great. I started my first hive this March from package bees, they are doing good. I cannot wait until next year.

Re: Honey Harvest [Re: Cedar] #2519220
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Originally Posted by Cedar
Looks great. I started my first hive this March from package bees, they are doing good. I cannot wait until next year.


Not trying to sound like a smart aleck, but you need to treat them for mites NOW with Apiguard strips so they can build up well for the winter, or you'll be buying more bees next spring. I started my Apiguard treatment on July 15th last year and it by a long shot the best my bees ever overwintered. You've got mites, there's no need to test them, and I'd give package bees about a 10% chance of surviving the winter without treatment. ALL package bees came from heavily treated commercial hives.


If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
Re: Honey Harvest [Re: FurFlyin] #2519278
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Thanks FurFlyin. I just got the APIGAURD in last week along with my beetle traps and bottom board. I've been attending the local bee meetings and have a friend that's helping me. I'm willing to listen to almost anyone. I've learned in a short time everyone does things different, so a lot of stuff to sort through.


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Re: Honey Harvest [Re: Wade] #2519442
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WOW!! Great harvest and good looking packaging too!! Well done!!


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Re: Honey Harvest [Re: Cedar] #2519491
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Originally Posted by Cedar
Thanks FurFlyin. I just got the APIGAURD in last week along with my beetle traps and bottom board. I've been attending the local bee meetings and have a friend that's helping me. I'm willing to listen to almost anyone. I've learned in a short time everyone does things different, so a lot of stuff to sort through.



They're all wrong. I'm right. LOL

What the heck do I know? I sold ALL my bees! After disease problems last year and a tornado scattering 14 hives this spring, I said to heck with it!

Apiguard strips are the best thing I ever did for mites.


If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
Re: Honey Harvest [Re: Wade] #2519501
07/02/18 05:04 PM
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Nice haul


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Re: Honey Harvest [Re: Wade] #2521494
07/05/18 02:38 PM
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Thanks y'all.

Brad - don't hold any more tidbits such as the electric knife trick. It was definitely better. My only problem now is getting the crappies scales out of the honey. smile You already taught me everything I know about bees so don't stop anytime soon. I'm going to try a flyback split when I get caught up on work stuff. Been itching to try one since you posted last year. I'm assuming you have plenty of honey on hand, let me know if you need some. What did you do with the beeswax? I've got a few gallons of cappings in the freezer I need to do something with.

I did lose my first hive to small hive beetles. I have two hives about 120 miles away and just didn't keep up with them like I did the closer hives. One hive absconded and I lost 2 supers of honey plus the bees. I think I did catch them in a swarm trap though. I've had a pretty good year catching bees in traps. My only problem is that once I transfer them to a nuc some make it and some don't. Haven't figured out the difference. Some early swarms are already filling their second deep brood box and some are still trying to fill a nuc. ??

Cedar - it can be fun and frustrating all on the same day. Stay with it until you think you have it figured out.


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Re: Honey Harvest [Re: Wade] #2521545
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When you say about swarms, some make it and some don't, are you talking about staying in your swarm traps or dying off?

If they aren't staying in your traps, put an open frame of brood in with them as soon as you see them in the trap. Any swarm I've caught, regardless of method, has stayed in the hive if I've placed a frame of open brood in with them.

If they stay and the numbers dwindle until they are gone, the swarm likely contained a virgin queen that did not successfully mate.

If you have early swarms still trying to fill their first nuc, they need to be requeened. It's not easy to requeen a hive with a caged queen until the hive has no resources to make a queen from. Remove the queen, wait 6 days, tear down all the queen cells. Shake every bee off every frame and double check to make sure you got anything that looks like a queen cell, then stick a caged queen in the next day, after you check for queen cells one more time. Poke a hole in the candy with a straightened paper clip and let them eat the candy to release the queen.

I'm a big fan of the Saskatraz queens. They're relatively cheap and readily available. A non productive beehive just takes up space. I use to keep them until they died out, just to keep my numbers up in case something happened to a queen. I finally started reading Micheal Palmers methods and started breaking up non productive hives into nucs and requeening them with good queen stock. Raising my own queens held me back for 4 years. I could raise them and raise quality looking queens, but I didn't have the drone pool that a queen breeder had so my queens never panned out, long term like the store bought queens did. Now many people will not agree with that and tell you they can raise better queens than a commercial breeder, but they're wrong. I could raise a better (larger) virgin queen than a commercial, but not having 10's of 1000's of drones saturating the breeding grounds meant mine weren't getting bred like they should.

If you do a fly back split this time of year, feed the piss out of them.


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Re: Honey Harvest [Re: FurFlyin] #2521594
07/05/18 05:40 PM
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If they stay and the numbers dwindle until they are gone, the swarm likely contained a virgin queen that did not successfully mate.

This one. That probably explains most of my issues. They seem to dwindle pretty fast once they start. My problem is that I only get to check once a week or once every two weeks. The bees just spice up the biscuits, they don't pay the bills. smile

Funny you mentioned the Saskatraz queens because I was actually thinking about buying 2 and doing two flyback splits. I was already planning to feed them pretty heavy and add entrance reducers and robber screens to all four hives. I usually have a strong fall flow in my area now with a couple of cutovers close. My buckwheat is blooming right now too so I hope they are putting up some nectar right after I robbed the honey. I have some corn that is getting close to tassling too.

You told me a long time ago to always add open brood to anything new. I've remembered that one and that seems to work.

I sprayed permetherin in March and added diatomaceous clay last month. So far the beetle activity at the farm has been minimal. Trying to keep an eye on those now. Got to get busy and build an oxyalic acid evaporator. Did you ever try one?


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Re: Honey Harvest [Re: Wade] #2521628
07/05/18 06:18 PM
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Yes, I own a Pro Vap 110 commercial/sideliner OA vaporizer. It's brand new, never used. I'd make somebody a good deal on it. smile

I use to have a Varrox and it worked well, it was just slow.


If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
Re: Honey Harvest [Re: Wade] #2521671
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Go ahead and get them Saskatraz queens. I bought 3. One is doing great the other two not so much but that's more my fault than theirs. I'm probably going to get a few more and just split up my remaining hive into nucs and requeen with Sask's.


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Re: Honey Harvest [Re: Wade] #2521872
07/06/18 08:49 AM
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If you guys both want queens and are buying several, you can order straight from Olivarez Honey Bees in California.

If you just want a few you can get them from Lappes Bee Supply.

Lappes gets there's from OHB but buys enough to get a quantity break.


If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
Re: Honey Harvest [Re: FurFlyin] #2527165
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Originally Posted by FurFlyin
Yes, I own a Pro Vap 110 commercial/sideliner OA vaporizer. It's brand new, never used. I'd make somebody a good deal on it. smile

I use to have a Varrox and it worked well, it was just slow.


How good a deal are you offering on the ProVap 110?

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Wade we got about the same. We got almost 15 gallons.


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Re: Honey Harvest [Re: Groundhawg] #2527795
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Originally Posted by FurFlyin
Yes, I own a Pro Vap 110 commercial/sideliner OA vaporizer. It's brand new, never used. I'd make somebody a good deal on it. smile

I use to have a Varrox and it worked well, it was just slow.


How good a deal are you offering on the ProVap 110?


I replied to your PM.


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Originally Posted by FurFlyin
Originally Posted by Groundhawg
Originally Posted by FurFlyin
Yes, I own a Pro Vap 110 commercial/sideliner OA vaporizer. It's brand new, never used. I'd make somebody a good deal on it. smile

I use to have a Varrox and it worked well, it was just slow.


How good a deal are you offering on the ProVap 110?


I replied to your PM.

Originally Posted by FurFlyin
Originally Posted by Groundhawg
Originally Posted by FurFlyin
Yes, I own a Pro Vap 110 commercial/sideliner OA vaporizer. It's brand new, never used. I'd make somebody a good deal on it. smile

I use to have a Varrox and it worked well, it was just slow.


How good a deal are you offering on the ProVap 110?


I replied to your PM.


Got it, thanks.


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