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Re: Prairie Land Hunting
[Re: Thefofive]
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06/26/18 11:51 AM
06/26/18 11:51 AM
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slippinlipjr
I make Calds fer a livin
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I make Calds fer a livin
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somewhere around 112.
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From what I've seen, cedars tend to act like water oaks on prairie soil. They won't let anything grow underneath them so they are generally just taking up space other than the cover they provide. I have seen deer browse cedars. Unless you just want the wood I would leave em. If you have one large stand of cedars you could cut a lot of them down, then leave strips of cedars and make funnels that bucks would feel more comfortable to travel in.
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Re: Prairie Land Hunting
[Re: getting old]
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06/26/18 12:42 PM
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Joined: Oct 2012
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Bustinbeards
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Booner
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cedar thickets are go to spots for bucks. Exactly what I was thinking.
Originally Posted By: Wiley Coyote Well, the way I see it is there's just too many assholes On a good day there's a bunch of assholes in here. On a bad day there's too many assholes in here.
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Re: Prairie Land Hunting
[Re: getting old]
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06/26/18 12:57 PM
06/26/18 12:57 PM
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outdoorobsession
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outdoorobsession
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When I lived in Marengo County, cedar thickets were my go to spots for bucks. Anywhere I hunt Cedar thickets is what holds big bucks. It is thick, hard to get thru without warning them and provides thermal cover...it is 10 degrees cooler . Prime whitetail buck bedding cover.
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Re: Prairie Land Hunting
[Re: slippinlipjr]
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06/26/18 02:15 PM
06/26/18 02:15 PM
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DryFire
14 point
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From what I've seen, cedars tend to act like water oaks on prairie soil. They won't let anything grow underneath them so they are generally just taking up space other than the cover they provide. Texas, these were salt cedars. They could suck a 5 acre pond dry. They poisoned the ground underneath them so nothing else could grow, not even grass or cactus. Spent many an hour on the back of a Polaris Ranger with a mixture of Remedy and diesel spraying them.
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Re: Prairie Land Hunting
[Re: Thefofive]
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06/26/18 07:46 PM
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257wbymag
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Boo Boo Head
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Drop the ph using ammonium sulphate
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Prairie Land Hunting
[Re: jawbone]
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06/28/18 07:41 AM
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Remington270
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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My advice is to not drive in it after a rain. That's some good advice. That mud will stick to anything.
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Re: Prairie Land Hunting
[Re: TwentySeven]
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06/28/18 08:10 AM
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I have worked on several prairies in the last several years. I have found that in most of the areas, there is enough native vegetation that comes back from the existing seed bank once the cedars are removed that its not necessary to plant anything. The only problem I have had is in the places that we piled the cedars to burn them, it got so hot that it killed a lot of the native seed bank. The big key is to keep the areas burned at a regular enough interval to inhibit the woody plants from returning. One of the reasons why Dr. Grant Woods (growingdeer.tv) says not to push trees in a pile to burn. Drop them and burn them where they lay in a year or two. Dr. Woods says that the burning of the cedars releases nutrients (something we all know) so therefore, don't concentrate them in one place or burn pile (something I haven't thought of); spread those nutrients around. Anyway, I'm just looking to "enhance" my habitat. I realize the value of native browse... but how can I enhance it? What grows well in prairie? I'm just looking for suggestions that I don't know about regarding enhancing prairie areas. Thanks!
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Re: Prairie Land Hunting
[Re: Thefofive]
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06/28/18 11:54 AM
06/28/18 11:54 AM
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You may want to check with wetlands conservation. If it enough land, you could get government funding and assistance to rebuild a wetlands. I personally would cut the cedars down. They become a biological desert when them are larger. I would rather start building the landscape better. Ridges have most consistent wind direction, use that as food plots after cutting timber. Let's the hill sides grow thick for bedding.
I believe that this is a practical world and that I can count only on what I earn. Therefore I believe in work, hard work. -George Petrie (1945)
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Re: Prairie Land Hunting
[Re: Thefofive]
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06/28/18 01:32 PM
06/28/18 01:32 PM
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Remington270
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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I have worked on several prairies in the last several years. I have found that in most of the areas, there is enough native vegetation that comes back from the existing seed bank once the cedars are removed that its not necessary to plant anything. The only problem I have had is in the places that we piled the cedars to burn them, it got so hot that it killed a lot of the native seed bank. The big key is to keep the areas burned at a regular enough interval to inhibit the woody plants from returning. One of the reasons why Dr. Grant Woods (growingdeer.tv) says not to push trees in a pile to burn. Drop them and burn them where they lay in a year or two. Dr. Woods says that the burning of the cedars releases nutrients (something we all know) so therefore, don't concentrate them in one place or burn pile (something I haven't thought of); spread those nutrients around. Anyway, I'm just looking to "enhance" my habitat. I realize the value of native browse... but how can I enhance it? What grows well in prairie? I'm just looking for suggestions that I don't know about regarding enhancing prairie areas. Thanks! In my area of prairie in East MS, there's a ton of beans, corn, and cotton, and it all grows really well, if you don't get the tractor stuck.
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