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Roger Raglin rant #2513406
06/23/18 07:39 PM
06/23/18 07:39 PM
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Grays Creek, NC
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"You cant manage a deer herd with acorns."

-Dr. Craig Harper

Re: Roger Raglin rant [Re: bigcountry692001] #2513430
06/23/18 08:21 PM
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That was awesome!


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Re: Roger Raglin rant [Re: bigcountry692001] #2513433
06/23/18 08:24 PM
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Ol' Roger shellin' down the corn. News flash girly men hunters, if you're huntin' to put food on the table , ya gotta kill em.



"Why do you ask"?

Always vote the slowest path to socialism.







Re: Roger Raglin rant [Re: 2Dogs] #2513450
06/23/18 08:43 PM
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I am a big Raglin fan. He is 100% right about the hunting subject and he is a great hunter and can throw down on a piano.


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Re: Roger Raglin rant [Re: bigcountry692001] #2513549
06/23/18 10:12 PM
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I got to agree I can spend time watching th family, and enjoy nature anytime but when it comes to hunting, boils down down to killing.


"You cant manage a deer herd with acorns."

-Dr. Craig Harper

Re: Roger Raglin rant [Re: bigcountry692001] #2513901
06/24/18 04:11 PM
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The one phrase that needs to be heard over everything he was saying was the word "me"....just because hunting is all about the kill to "him" doesn't mean that it's that way to everyone else. If hunting was only about the kill, then there would be a lot of time wasted during my season.....but hey that's just "ME"........


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Re: Roger Raglin rant [Re: bigcountry692001] #2513911
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Re: Roger Raglin rant [Re: bigcountry692001] #2514269
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His point about his wild game meat costing $90/lb actually argues against his main point. If it was just about the killing, there are much cheaper ways to get meat. It's about the whole experience. But yeah, I get what he is saying. Huning = killing, period.

Re: Roger Raglin rant [Re: bigcountry692001] #2514355
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Re: Roger Raglin rant [Re: bigcountry692001] #2514797
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Good Stuff!! I feel like a lot of the guys/gals out there that say hunting is not about killing are the ones that have acquired a taste for tag sandwiches. I don't know about y'all but I cant stand the taste of tag sandwiches. They make my stomach hurt for a long time! Spending time with family/friends and enjoying time in the field are added benefits but that's not why I hunt. To each their own I guess.

Re: Roger Raglin rant [Re: bigcountry692001] #2515121
06/26/18 08:54 AM
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Re: Roger Raglin rant [Re: bigcountry692001] #2515138
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I'll be the one that will say that I don't agree with him. There is NO doubt that I want to shoot animals and burn powder!! HOWEVER, if "killing" were to be my criteria of measurement, I would not hunt!

I have spent COUNTLESS hours in a treestand, in a swamp, wherever... hunting and not pulled back my bow or pulled the trigger and I have enjoyed every moment!!

I would be very irresponsible by teaching my kids that hunting is only about killing and if you don't kill something, it's not enjoyable. My family "manages" wildlife and that means selective kills. My teenage kids get more out of seeing a 2.5 or even a 3.5 yr old buck and letting him walk than they do out of killing him. They'd rather "invest" and shoot the buck at 4 yrs old. Of course, because we manage, our targeted kills are meaningful and on the wall and sometimes just watching nature is better than killing it. Goes the same for stopping your duck hunt when you have your limit and just watch'em come in.

Because that's my philosophy, my kids LOVE hunting and they hunt with an appreciative patience and they soak up the experience.

Hunting is about memories and killing ain't a requirement for it to be meaningful and enjoyable.

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Re: Roger Raglin rant [Re: Thefofive] #2515164
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Originally Posted by Thefofive
I'll be the one that will say that I don't agree with him. There is NO doubt that I want to shoot animals and burn powder!! HOWEVER, if "killing" were to be my criteria of measurement, I would not hunt!

I have spent COUNTLESS hours in a treestand, in a swamp, wherever... hunting and not pulled back my bow or pulled the trigger and I have enjoyed every moment!!

I would be very irresponsible by teaching my kids that hunting is only about killing and if you don't kill something, it's not enjoyable. My family "manages" wildlife and that means selective kills. My teenage kids get more out of seeing a 2.5 or even a 3.5 yr old buck and letting him walk than they do out of killing him. They'd rather "invest" and shoot the buck at 4 yrs old. Of course, because we manage, our targeted kills are meaningful and on the wall and sometimes just watching nature is better than killing it. Goes the same for stopping your duck hunt when you have your limit and just watch'em come in.

Because that's my philosophy, my kids LOVE hunting and they hunt with an appreciative patience and they soak up the experience.

Hunting is about memories and killing ain't a requirement for it to be meaningful and enjoyable.

I'm not a fan of Roger, but I think you are missing the point of his message. He's right on in this message and we as hunters shouldn't hide from the truth because we think its politically correct. Yes we can enjoy ourselves even when we don't kill an animal, but the ultimate goal of all our efforts is to kill something.


Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales

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Re: Roger Raglin rant [Re: AU338MAG] #2515266
06/26/18 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by AU338MAG
Originally Posted by Thefofive
I'll be the one that will say that I don't agree with him. There is NO doubt that I want to shoot animals and burn powder!! HOWEVER, if "killing" were to be my criteria of measurement, I would not hunt!

I have spent COUNTLESS hours in a treestand, in a swamp, wherever... hunting and not pulled back my bow or pulled the trigger and I have enjoyed every moment!!

I would be very irresponsible by teaching my kids that hunting is only about killing and if you don't kill something, it's not enjoyable. My family "manages" wildlife and that means selective kills. My teenage kids get more out of seeing a 2.5 or even a 3.5 yr old buck and letting him walk than they do out of killing him. They'd rather "invest" and shoot the buck at 4 yrs old. Of course, because we manage, our targeted kills are meaningful and on the wall and sometimes just watching nature is better than killing it. Goes the same for stopping your duck hunt when you have your limit and just watch'em come in.

Because that's my philosophy, my kids LOVE hunting and they hunt with an appreciative patience and they soak up the experience.

Hunting is about memories and killing ain't a requirement for it to be meaningful and enjoyable.

I'm not a fan of Roger, but I think you are missing the point of his message. He's right on in this message and we as hunters shouldn't hide from the truth because we think its politically correct. Yes we can enjoy ourselves even when we don't kill an animal, but the ultimate goal of all our efforts is to kill something.


This is how I took it


"You cant manage a deer herd with acorns."

-Dr. Craig Harper

Re: Roger Raglin rant [Re: bigcountry692001] #2515268
06/26/18 01:17 PM
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The main objective is to kill, least I figure that's what it's been since the first hunter killed the first critter , and that hasn't changed.



"Why do you ask"?

Always vote the slowest path to socialism.







Re: Roger Raglin rant [Re: bigcountry692001] #2515726
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Certainly, I want to put some meat on the ground but if I don't succeed in that, my time spent is not in vain. Regarding whitetail deer mgmt, I have goals that require restraint and discipline. At the end of the season, if I haven't killed a buck, it doesn't mean that I'm going to shoot a 2.5 yr old 8 pt. or that my season was a failure.Some hunters HAVE to kill a buck for their season to be a success - I don't agree with that thinking.

Oh, I don't apologize for killing. It's a part of wildlife mgmt and it's a part of nature. I just enjoy EVERYTHING about being outdoors and I don't have to kill to enjoy it. That's been my message to my kids.

Re: Roger Raglin rant [Re: bigcountry692001] #2518903
07/01/18 09:19 PM
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Oh yes, it's killing. Not the feel good BS"HARVEST" ! Harvesting is picking vegetables, not killing animals!


Thomas Jefferson. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

Life is too short to only hunt and fish on weekends!

If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!

Re: Roger Raglin rant [Re: bigcountry692001] #2519005
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If your out there hunting and don't plan to kill something...... well your not hunting. You might be after a certain animal or age bracket but if your not willing to kill your not hunting.
hunting
1. uncountable noun
Hunting is the chasing and killing of wild animals by people or other animals, for food or as a sport.


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