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Re: 30-30 ammo choice [Re: Out back] #2505922
06/13/18 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Out back
Or maybe just an idiot.



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Re: 30-30 ammo choice [Re: bamaeyedoc] #2505951
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What about the POWERMAX!!!! ammo? Anyone tried it?

Just kidding. Back when I was a hunter and shot a few deer in the early 2000's, I used the Hornady LeverEvolution 160 grain a good bit. It's a very good choice and was always quite accurate in my .30/30.

Re: 30-30 ammo choice [Re: bamaeyedoc] #2506136
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I guess now the name calling has started, I’ve been called much more than idiot in my lifetime. I’m just pushin what works and when it comes to the 30-30, I highly doubt anyone kills as many game animals per year with it than I. I’d have to put the figure from 40-200 animals per year depending on if its what I feel like using that particular year. This is across the United States on all kinda critters. Give Powermax a whirl, I won’t even ask for an apology.

Post Script: that figure above ^^^^ is with the 30-30, it could be up to 1000 animals with different calibers, bow, and spear, per year. I am a lucky man. I killed around thirty boar hogs this year using 410 Brenneke slugs from a 410, all one shot drops. This stuff is how I entertain myself.

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Re: 30-30 ammo choice [Re: bamaeyedoc] #2506137
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Note to self: If I only could go back to killing ragheads instead of big game animals in my retirement, I’d subject myself to much less guff, write Trump.

Re: 30-30 ammo choice [Re: bamaeyedoc] #2506217
06/13/18 05:44 PM
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Nosler Partition core lokt levrevloutions....even the powermin....er max will slay deer. Your rifle will like it's favorite.


Only hits count.
Re: 30-30 ammo choice [Re: bamaeyedoc] #2506777
06/14/18 03:22 PM
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150 grain Corelokts, I bet I have killed 50-75 deer with marlin 30-30. Deer have always traveled less distance then 30-06 or 7 mag or 270. I shoot em bow style double lungs and I guess bullet is slower and more energy is felt as it passes through boiler room.

Re: 30-30 ammo choice [Re: bamaeyedoc] #2506920
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You should check out Powermax 150gr grin

Re: 30-30 ammo choice [Re: bamaeyedoc] #2508751
06/17/18 08:58 PM
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Bought a box of 150gr. Rem. Core Lokt and Winchester Ballastic Silver-tips. Didn't have Powermax at BPS. Gonna send a few down range next week.

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Re: 30-30 ammo choice [Re: bamaeyedoc] #2508877
06/17/18 11:10 PM
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They all work they just don’t hit the same spot.

Re: 30-30 ammo choice [Re: JohnnyLoco] #2509086
06/18/18 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyLoco
You might find a bullet that outperforms ballistically but you won’t outperform the terminal performance of powermax.

For the 308 Winchester, NO 165gr bullet outperforms 150gr powermax on terminal performance. I’ve put it to the test on several calibers. The only reason I use the 180gr Powermax in my 30-06 is because its always on the shelf.

The 150gr 30-30 Powermax is the best terminal performing bullet for the caliber bar-none.

Your rifle has to be accurate with a bullet first so you have to find what it likes.



The old PMC starfire HOs would outperform most any regular cup/core on deer from a 30/30, and the Barnes allcopper 30/30 HP is in a different league than anything Winchester, Remington, or federal make for 30/30. If you want the ‘most’ from a 30/30 to 150yards, hand loaded Barnes are it. Fact is, it’s not needed for deer or most hogs, and ANY load mentioned here will kill deer from a 30-30, within 30-30 ranges, and some further.

Re: 30-30 ammo choice [Re: bamaeyedoc] #2509188
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The copper Barnes even if hand loaded with LeverE powder don’t really outperform 150gr factory powermax, They are a decent bullet though. I’ve killed piles of game with both.

No 30-30 outperforms 150gr powermax on deer and hogs.

Don’t know about the imposed ranges of the above post but anything past 200 yards, I think the 140gr Hornady or 125gr Federal varmint rounds have the edge, sub 200 powermax 150gr is the one.

Almost any 30-30 is a 250 plus yard gun

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Re: 30-30 ammo choice [Re: bamaeyedoc] #2509202
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Depending on bullet, 150-165 is where you see 30/30 loads separate in performance vs bullet type. Any gun is at least a 250 yard gun. wink

Re: 30-30 ammo choice [Re: bamaeyedoc] #2509209
06/18/18 02:17 PM
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If there were two locos there would be no animals left in a years time as many as he has killed.


If I agreed with you, we'd both be wrong.

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Re: 30-30 ammo choice [Re: Reloader79] #2509229
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Originally Posted by Reloader79
If there were two locos there would be no animals left in a years time as many as he has killed.


You aint lyin, I mean dang. 1K / yr.????????????
He work at a animal shelter?

Re: 30-30 ammo choice [Re: ALMODUX] #2509244
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Originally Posted by ALMODUX
Depending on bullet, 150-165 is where you see 30/30 loads separate in performance vs bullet type. Any gun is at least a 250 yard gun. wink

Haven't you been reading this thread? The 150 gr. Powermax is the only 30-30 load that will kill deer!!!


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Re: 30-30 ammo choice [Re: Stob] #2509247
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Originally Posted by Stob
Originally Posted by Reloader79
If there were two locos there would be no animals left in a years time as many as he has killed.


You aint lyin, I mean dang. 1K / yr.????????????
He work at a animal shelter?


I don’t want to get into how I feel about stray dogs and cats but I try to keep as many out of shelters as possible. CCI Stingers are the best on Feral cats and Velociters work awesome on big dangerous dogs.

As far as the other game goes, I’m retired and hogs reproduce.

Re: 30-30 ammo choice [Re: AU338MAG] #2509249
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Originally Posted by AU338MAG
Originally Posted by ALMODUX
Depending on bullet, 150-165 is where you see 30/30 loads separate in performance vs bullet type. Any gun is at least a 250 yard gun. wink

Haven't you been reading this thread? The 150 gr. Powermax is the only 30-30 load that will kill deer!!!



If you read the thread you definitely know that didn’t come from me, I only claim the 150gr Powermax is the best at the job.

Re: 30-30 ammo choice [Re: bamaeyedoc] #2509252
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Wait, Post Script...

Just so there is no confusion, I am a big fan of the 30-30 and the Powermax 150gr Hollow Point.

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Re: 30-30 ammo choice [Re: bamaeyedoc] #2509254
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Powermax, you say?????


Originally Posted by hillmp
The left lane is for the the purpose of moving the flow of traffic forward regardless of the speed limit. If your impeding the flow of traffic get your ass in the right lane. It's really that simple...

Re: 30-30 ammo choice [Re: JohnnyLoco] #2509259
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Originally Posted by JohnnyLoco
Wait, Post Script...

Just so there is no confusion, I am a big fan of the 30-30 and the Powermax 150gr Hollow Point.

Are you sure they are better than core-lokts?

Just having fun Loco, nothing personal or ill will intended. thumbup


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