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Re: Pinhoti Project [Re: turkey247] #2506214
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Originally Posted by turkey247
Originally Posted by Turkeymaster
those boys are straight killas.


Not arguing the point, I believe the statement is true. But you could do it, about 50-75 guy’s on here could do it, and I know 8 or 10 guys not on here that could do what they do in regards to the straight killing.


I’m gonna have to disagree with you here. Dave Owens, chubs, David Ellis. They are a different breed. There may be 1 or 2 guys on here that could do it, but not many. It’s a completely different skill set, dropping in to new public land and having consistent success. Specifically with Osceola a and easterns. Half a dozen birds in front of a camera the first week of season on big cypress is proof in the pudding. You really think there’s 50 of us that could do that?

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Originally Posted by JUGHEAD
Originally Posted by Turkeymaster
those boys are straight killas
I have watched every video I can get my hands on that involves a hunt with that Dave Owens cat. He is a turkey MURDERER. And he can obviously run the hell out of calls given he has won (at least one..not sure what else) an NWTF Grand National competition (not to mention just listening to him on his videos). With all of that in mind, I am especially intrigued as it pertains to quality of calling and the corresponding ability to call up turkeys and kill em. I will admit that I have long since subscribed to the old line of thinking that you don't have to be a great caller to kill turkeys. I am living proof that it is true. However, I can't help but wonder if I have left turkeys on the table because my calling is so poor compared to somebody like him? That bastage calls up turkeys from one end of this country to the other, in all weather conditions, with and without hens, etc. etc. It almost seems like all of the stars have to align properly for me to flat call one up in the woods like I want to and it "seems" Dave Owens does it at will, even on Alabama public land birds like the ones I hunt. I dunno. Just something to think about in the off season! I know it sure can't hurt to be a good caller and I'm planning to work on mine before next season. I have it in my mind that although a turkey will answer me consistently when I call, they aren't 100% sure it is real and they often hang up accordingly. Certainly a lot of that is that I hunt Jackson County, mountain, public turkeys a whole bunch and they are more call shy than any other ones I have ever hunted (ya'll ask ol Big Dave "Daggerz" on here, who can run the hell out of calls, what he thinks about our turkeys :but I'm almost convinced that authenticity plays a bigger role in places like that as compared to less pressured places.


Ive pondered this myself. Much like you, a good half the birds I kill are more a product of strategy than them coming to the call. Excellent calling certainly can’t hurt. Especially if you’re hunting a lot of land that you don’t know well.

Re: Pinhoti Project [Re: Atoler] #2506247
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I’m gonna have to disagree with you here. Dave Owens, chubs, David Ellis. They are a different breed. There may be 1 or 2 guys on here that could do it, but not many. It’s a completely different skill set, dropping in to new public land and having consistent success. Specifically with Osceola a and easterns. Half a dozen birds in front of a camera the first week of season on big cypress is proof in the pudding. You really think there’s 50 of us that could do that?

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No doubt! Any public land in florida, he has done it multiple times. It's tough down there ask anyone who has been before.

Re: Pinhoti Project [Re: JUGHEAD] #2506282
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Dave is an elite turkey hunter no doubt. Imagine there was professional turkey hunting like bass fishing. There would be guys that would rise to the top and I imagine he would be like KVD. Along those same lines I wonder if he has a network of locals and friends accross the country that drop him some way points in all these different states. Even if he does have some help with intel it doesn’t diminish what he accomplished this season. It’s just amazing.


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Re: Pinhoti Project [Re: JUGHEAD] #2506285
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I know a few folks who definitely put a turkey before family,friendships and jobs. The man who can balance all of the above is by far the ones I respect the most.


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Re: Pinhoti Project [Re: 257wbymag] #2506325
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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
I know a few folks who definitely put a turkey before family,friendships and jobs. The man who can balance all of the above is by far the ones I respect the most.


Well said buddy.


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Re: Pinhoti Project [Re: JUGHEAD] #2506328
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I know a couple that balance hunting, a girlfriend, wife, kids, and a job and still kill birds. I’m not sure any of them are happy.


I do not hunt turkeys because I want to, I hunt them because I have to. I would, really, rather not. I am helpless in the grip of my compulsion. ------ Tom Kelly ------
Re: Pinhoti Project [Re: YEKRUT] #2506350
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Originally Posted by YEKRUT
I know a couple that balance hunting, a girlfriend, wife, kids, and a job and still kill birds. I’m not sure any of them are happy.


That’s because they have a wife and a girlfriend laugh


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Re: Pinhoti Project [Re: turkey247] #2506401
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Originally Posted by turkey247

I follow you. But think about this. I know for me, I hunt an average of maybe 1.5 hours at a time. Longer on Saturday’s depending a ballgames. Don’t hunt on Sunday. I don’t kill one every time I go around here due to those reasons.

However, if I take a vacation day to hunt in AL, or 3 or 4 days together to go hunt some public land out of state, my daily success rate skyrockets. There’s more than one reason for that. Being able to stick with a vocal bird, finding the right time of day when one wants to die (very important), and just simply being able to prosepect, cover ground and find turkey. Your more confident, you don’t rush things, and make better decisions.

Just my thoughts. It’s a lot about being there and having time to be fully invested.



Lotta truth there. Take a decent turkey hunter that ain’t gotta look at his watch or his phone every 20 minutes and he can get pretty rough. To be able to kill easterns like Owens does is pretty amazing though.

Re: Pinhoti Project [Re: wbpc] #2506527
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Originally Posted by wbpc
Dave has planned his life around turkey hunting. No kids, wife or many hobbies for the most part. All of his energy is focused on turkey hunting. I'm not going to say he's the best turkey hunter, but I don't think many are in the same league as him skill wise. I listened to a podcast that featured him and he is ate up with turkey hunting! He knows how to play the game. That guy kills turkeys everywhere he goes!



I have never watched any of the guy's videos, but that is kinda sad. Turkey hunting is a great hobby, but it makes a terrible life.


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Re: Pinhoti Project [Re: JUGHEAD] #2506582
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I agree preacher.....I love to turkey hunt. Hunt a lot locally and travel a good bit and have killed 100+ And seen a good many more die. At 32 with a business to run, wife, kids I’m actually seeing myself slowing it down a little. My family is my most important hobby.

As far as these guys skill.....sure they are good hunters but what the point of plastering it all over social media drawing attention to locations etc? Can you make living doing it? I seriously doubt it......so what the point? I hunt for myself. I enjoy the game but I play it for me not for Twitter/instagram

Re: Pinhoti Project [Re: Atoler] #2506667
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Originally Posted by Atoler

I’m gonna have to disagree with you here. Dave Owens, chubs, David Ellis. They are a different breed. There may be 1 or 2 guys on here that could do it, but not many. It’s a completely different skill set, dropping in to new public land and having consistent success. Specifically with Osceola a and easterns. Half a dozen birds in front of a camera the first week of season on big cypress is proof in the pudding. You really think there’s 50 of us that could do that?


This.... Folks who don't do all the extensive traveling don't understand.. I think there is a bit of jealousy creeping in with some of the comments.

Re: Pinhoti Project [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #2507145
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Originally Posted by poorcountrypreacher
Originally Posted by wbpc
Dave has planned his life around turkey hunting. No kids, wife or many hobbies for the most part. All of his energy is focused on turkey hunting. I'm not going to say he's the best turkey hunter, but I don't think many are in the same league as him skill wise. I listened to a podcast that featured him and he is ate up with turkey hunting! He knows how to play the game. That guy kills turkeys everywhere he goes!



I have never watched any of the guy's videos, but that is kinda sad. Turkey hunting is a great hobby, but it makes a terrible life.


I've got to agree with PCP here! I love it and I'd love to hunt more but I don't want to be anymore involved in it than I already am.


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Re: Pinhoti Project [Re: JUGHEAD] #2507169
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I wish I'd been able to do it when I was younger, I enjoy watching Hunting public and Pinhoti Project on youtube and social media. Dave seems like he could be a great author or writer the way words his post and updates. I hope theyre able to keep on keeping on.

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Re: Pinhoti Project [Re: mr.clif] #2507399
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Originally Posted by mr.clif
I wish I'd been able to do it when I was younger, I enjoy watching Hunting public and Pinhoti Project on youtube and social media. Dave seems like he could be a great author or writer the way words his post and updates. I hope theyre able to keep on keeping on.

Same here and yes, Dave should write a book about his hunts. He can definitely paint a picture with words, kinda reminds me of Tom Kelly


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